Wikipedia:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/NRIS information issues/New York

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Document issues

• Trinity-St. Paul's Episcopal Church (New Rochelle, New York), NYS website of documents shows error for both the text and photos documents. --doncram (talk) 16:21, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Property names

• Two among three church properties nationwide mispelled with "Epsicopal" in the name, where it should be as "Episcopal":

1. 98000130 Calvary Epsicopal Church, in McDonough, NY
2. 98001395 Emmanuel Epsicopal Church, in Elmira, NY

doncram (talk) 09:50, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

submitted in batch01:2-4, reported by NRHP_RT to be fixing in NRIS as of 3/4/2009. doncram (talk) 23:23, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

• Two among three more church properties nationwide mispelled with "Epicopal" in the name, where it should be as "Episcopal":

1. Bloomville Methodist Epicopal Church (Bloomville, New York)
2. St. Barnabas Epicopal Church (Troy, New York)

doncram (talk) 13:27, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

submitted in batch01:5-7, reported by NRHP_RT to be fixing in NRIS as of 3/4/2009. doncram (talk) 23:23, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

• "Newwark Valley Municipal Building and Tappan-Spaulding Memorial Library", of Newark Valley, NY, in Tioga County, NY, listed in NRIS, with typo misspelling Newark as Newwark. doncram (talk) 09:52, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

submitted in batch01:09, reported by NRHP_RT to be fixing in NRIS as of 3/4/2009. doncram (talk) 23:23, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

• NRIS includes "Main Street Historic Distrct" for Addison, New York, in which the word "District" is misspelled, omitting an "i". This causes it to be omitted from some automatically generated pages, such as Elkman's suggested disambiguation for Main Street Historic District, and to be echoed with the mispelling in other automatically generated pages, e.g. NRHP.COM's Steuben County, NY listings. doncram (talk) 16:38, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

submitted in batch01:10, reported by NRHP_RT to be fixing in NRIS as of 3/4/2009. doncram (talk) 23:23, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

• NRIS lists "Hendrikus DuBoris House" in Ulster County new york, when it is Hendrikus DuBois House. Corrected in the List of Registered Historic Places in Ulster County, New York article by Daniel Case. doncram (talk) 16:48, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

submitted in batch01:11, reported by NRHP_RT to be fixing in NRIS as of 3/4/2009. doncram (talk) 23:23, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

• For Russell Sage Memorial Church in Queens, NY, NRIS, Archiplanet and other echoes report: "Russell Sage Sage Memorial Church" with "Sage" repeated. Its NRHP Inventory/Nomination form available at NYS shows it as "Russell Sage Memorial Church", also known as "First Presbyterian Church of Far Rockaway". It was Ralph Adams Cram designed and has Tiffany stained glass windows. The church is known as First Presbyterian Church (formerly the Russell Sage Memorial building) at 1324 Beach 12 street, Far Rockaway, Queens. doncram (talk) 02:00, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

submitted in batch01:12, reported by NRHP_RT to be fixing in NRIS as of 3/4/2009. doncram (talk) 23:23, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

• NRIS? / Elkman lists "Lafayette Park Historic" in Albany. Surely it is meant to be Lafayette Park Historic District? doncram (talk) 18:44, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

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Further, it is listed as "Lafayette Park Historic" within the NYS historic docs system, following NRIS. But the NRHP nom document title, linked from new wikipedia article on it, is "Lafayette Park Historic District". doncram (talk) 21:19, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

• (NEED TO CHECK IN NRIS DIRECTLY) NRIS or at least Elkman generator lists "Carll Burr Jr." for what should be termed either the Carll Burr, Jr., House or perhaps "Carll Burr Jr. House", refnum 85002503 in Commack, New York in Suffolk County, New York. Name on NYS registration document is "Carll Burr Jr. House". NRHP.COM gets correctly as "Carll Burr, Jr., House". doncram (talk) 22:15, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

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• PAD Factory, The, in Ticonderoga, should be simply Pad Factory; PAD is not an acronym-- the factory made pads of note paper. The all-caps title is following an error on the first page of the registration form ([1]); all subsequent pages use "Pad". And the ", The" is just silly.

• Roosevelt Island Light, aka Blackwell Island Light and Welfare Island Light, is in NRIS simply as "Lighthouse". While true, it's not very helpful. It was built and owned by the City of New York, so it has never had an official USCG name. While the article is at Blackwell Island Light, it is a NYC Landmark with the name "Lighthouse, Roosevelt Island", so I suggest that the NRHP name should be "Roosevelt Island Light". . . . . Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk • contribs) 13:42, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

• Osterhoudt Stone House in Saugerties is listed as Oaterhoudt Stone House, an obvious typo. Daniel Case (talk) 14:17, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

• Old Orchard Shoal Light is listed as Orchard Shoal Light Station, Old, which suggests that this is an old light on Orchard Shoal. In fact, the shoal is named "Old Orchard Shoal", as is its lighthouse. . . . . Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk • contribs) 01:13, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

• Gilbert Millspaugh House is listed as Glibert Millspaugh House. Typo: "Glibert"; correction "Gilbert". --doncram (talk) 04:33, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

• Rider-Hopkins Farm and Olmsted Camp, Sardinia, New York, listed on the National Register of Historic Places in Erie County, New York, is listed in NRIS as "Rider-Hopkins Farm and Olmstead Camp". Typo: "Olmstead"; correction: "Olmsted". --doncram (talk) 13:40, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

• General John Hathorn Stone House in Warwick is listed as Stone, General John Hathorn House as if it were part of his name rather than the material. Daniel Case (talk) 20:02, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

• Woodlawn Station (Dual System IRT) is listed as Woodlawan Station (Dual System IRT). Typo: "Woodlawan"; correction "Woodlawn". ​​​​​​​​Niagara ​​^{Don't give up the ship} 17:20, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

• Cobblestone Farmhouse at 1111 Stone Church Road is listed in NRIS as "Cobblestone Farmhouse at 1111 Stone Church Roach". Correct: "Road" vs. Typo: "Roach". --doncram 02:20, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

• Gates-Livermore Cobblestone Farmhouse is listed in NRIS as "Gates--Livermore Cobblestone", omitting the "Farmhouse". --doncram 06:26, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

• Daniel Supplee Cobblestone Farmhouse is listed in NRIS as "Daniel Supples Cobblestone Farmhouse". Typo: Supples; Correction: Suppleee. NRHP document, at http://www.oprhp.state.ny.us/hpimaging/hp_view.asp?GroupView=10232, is clear. --doncram 06:31, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

• Town Line Church and Cemetery is listed in NRIS as "Town Linke Church and Cemetery".

From Wikipedia Help desk posting "Town Linke Church" (try [https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2014_October_17#Town_Linke_Church this archive link): "I recently edited the article on Town Linke Church and cemetery (in Steuben County, New York), correcting the spelling to Town Line Church and Cemetery (as may be seen by the sign over the doors in the photo at top right of the article). However, I have no idea how to change (or request a change) in the entry title itself... so it's still listed under Town Linke Church. It's also listed with this incorrect spelling in the roster of National Register sites in new York. Can someone please advise me what would be the best way to proceed? Kirk House, Director, Steuben County Historical Society — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kirkwhouse (talk • contribs) 15:54, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

The move was "Done User:PrimeHunter has moved the page to the correct title.ukexpat

(talk) 16:52, 17 October", but the NRIS info is still incorrect. --doncram 21:49, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Demolished but still listed

• In Ithaca, New York: East Robert Hall, Roberts Hall, and Stone Hall, demolished in the 1980s. --doncram (talk) 20:48, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
• In Catskill, New York: Hop-o'-Nose Knitting Mill demolished except for one tower. Lvklock (talk) 23:29, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

• Tappan Zee Playhouse in Nyack, New York. Demolished ~ 5 or so years ago. Now in construction to be a market with subsidised apartments above it. That said, as I told Daniel Case when he mentioned it to me some months ago re: photos, I may have an old one. Grew up in the area. TravellingCari 04:10, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

• Middletown, Orange County, New York's Oliver Avenue Bridge (on List of Registered Historic Places in Orange County, New York) is gone, as are Hyatt-Livingston House in Dobbs Ferry, New York (on List of Registered Historic Places in Westchester County, New York) (burned down, early 1990s), Winchell HouseHaskell House in New Windsor, New York (also Orange County) (as far as I can tell ... both the HABS report and the NRHP nom from the early 1970s describe a building in an advanced state of deterioration), Poughkeepsie, New York's old Poughkeepsie City Hall (on List of Registered Historic Places in Poughkeepsie, New York). Maybe we should color-code them black in the infobox. --Daniel Case (location info in italics added by doncram)

• • in Westchester County, New York, Hyatt-Livingston House in Dobbs Ferry, New York moving from above, Dobbs is in Westchester, not Orange TravellingCari 00:59, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

oops, my mistake above about which county it is in, now corrected. doncram (talk) 16:41, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

• Silliman Memorial Presbyterian Church, in Cohoes, NY, in Albany County. 1896 Romanesque church demolished in 1998. [2], identified by Daniel Case. doncram (talk) 04:24, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

• Polaski King House, 2270 Valley Drive, Syracuse, NY. Couldn't locate when visiting to take photos, and doesn't show on the Onondaga County tax rolls. Lvklock (talk) 02:20, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

• First Romanian-American Congregation Synagogue, in NYC, collapsed and was demolished in 2006 but apparently is still NRHP-listed. doncram (talk) 11:21, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

• Kelsey-Davey Farm, on Old Seneca Turnpike in the town of Skaneateles, New York, was listed on the National Register of Historic Places in 1980. It was a farmhouse with Federal or Federal vernacular style; the application suggests that the owner wished for it to be preserved by listing it on the NRHP, but in 2009, the farmhouse is no longer there. One or more old barns exist on the property which may have been contributing structures. A house built since 1980 is there, located perhaps just south of the old farmhouse. doncram (talk) 17:34, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Update: In march 2012 an editor identifying self as owner asserted that the building exists, and commented at wt:NRHP, and asked for help uploading pics. Apparently the NRHP coords had led me astray to think a different property is the listed one. I did ask around at two nearby houses in 2009, looking for it, no one could identify the NRHP listed one. I still can't tell from Google maps or any other way, to find out which is the listed property. The coords in the current article point to the incorrect place. --doncram 00:54, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

• Sidewalk Clock at 519 3rd Avenue, Manhattan is shown on National Register of Historic Places listings in Manhattan from 14th to 59th Streets as "No longer in location." Should it therefore be removed from that list?. . . . Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk • contribs) 18:40, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

• Wollenberg Grain and Seed Elevator destroyed by fire in October 2006.--Pubdog (talk) 14:01, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

• Aurora Steam Grist Mill, Aurora, New York, demolished by Wells College in 1992.--Pubdog (talk) 22:44, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

• Robert H. Rose House, Binghamton, New York, demolished in 1980; see National Register of Historic Places Registration: Jonas M. Kilmer House--Pubdog (talk) 11:13, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

• Laurel and Michigan Avenues Row, in Buffalo, apparently demolished (a vacant lot in December 2009), per User:Pubdog mention at wt:NRHP. doncram (talk) 03:42, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

• Putnam and Mellor Engine and Hose Company Firehouse, Port Chester. Demolished in 2007 12 years after being declared structurally unsound following collapse of rear wall, as noted in article. Daniel Case (talk) 15:20, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

• Pure Oil Gas Station, from the Saratoga County list. When I visited, it is clearly no longer there anymore. Daniel Case (talk) 02:13, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

• Sarles' Tavern, in Millwood, Westchester County. Demolished following severe 1993 fire, as noted in article. Daniel Case (talk) 16:17, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

• Henrick Winegar House, in Amenia Union, Dutchess County. No house in that area (not that there are many) matches the appearance, even remotely, of the one in the photo. It was in rather decrepit condition when listed in the 1970s, over two centuries old and rather neglected, so I wouldn't be surprised if it has been demolished or burned since then. Daniel Case (talk) 15:04, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

• Abrams Building in Albany, New York. Demolished to make way for the Times Union Center as noted in this newspaper article. upstateNYer 05:09, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

• Chalmers Knitting Mills in Amsterdam, New York. Completely gone on visit in mid-October 2014. This page suggests demolition happened 2011–12. Daniel Case (talk) 03:24, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

• Robert Sands Estate, in the Town of Rhinebeck. According to this article it burned down to the foundation in 1999. In 2015, the state made a rare move to delist it. Daniel Case (talk) 20:08, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

• Balmville Tree in the Town of Newburgh. Cut down to a 15-foot (4.6 m) stump in 2015 after it became a traffic hazard. Daniel Case (talk) 19:48, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

New York/New Jersey state location issue

This may not be any error. But, the NRIS / Elkman system indicates both:

• Albert Smith House, Waldwick, NJ
• Albert Smith House, Waldwick, NY

Is one of these an error?

There's some kind of error here. According to the USGS GNIS database, there is no Waldwick, NY. Both listings are coded as "listed" in the raw NPS NRIS database and they have different reference numbers. But both have the same address and are identified as being part of the "Stone Houses of Bergen County TR" multiple listing (Waldwick, NJ is in Bergen County). Perhaps there's an Albert Smith House listed on the NRHP somewhere in New York, but it seems doubtful since the New York Historic Preservation Office doesn't seem to have a record of it. --sanfranman59 (talk) 03:03, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Article now at Albert Smith House (Waldwick, New Jersey), as there's a Utah one too. The NRIS gives this as being located in both Bergen County, New Jersey and Allegany County, New York. Yeah, there is no way this is a property that spans borders, as National Register of Historic Places listings in Bergen County, New Jersey is far away from National Register of Historic Places listings in Allegany County, New York. And Waldwick is a borough not on the border, and the coords place inside the county. Seems like, flat out, an error in NRIS's records to give a secondary location for this one. --doncram (talk) 03:00, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

County location issue

• Nash (harbor tug) is located in the city of Oswego, in Oswego County, New York, but it is listed in NRIS as being in Buffalo, New York. Presumably it was stationed in Buffalo and moved. doncram (talk) 00:34, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

• Various places in List of RHPs in Brooklyn show as being in city of New York rather than in Brooklyn. Not incorrect to say New York as city, but Brooklyn would be clearer. It would be incorrect to list New York County for these rather than King's County, however. These include: **St. Luke's Protestant Episcopal Church (Brooklyn, New York) listed in New York, NY
• 68th Police Precinct Station House and Stable
  • 83rd Precinct Police Station and Stable
  • Albemarle-Kenmore Terraces Historic District
  • Atlantic Avenue Control House
  • Boathouse on the Lullwater of the Lake in Prospect Park
  • Boy's High School
  • Brooklyn Borough Hall
  • Brooklyn Bridge
  • Brooklyn Heights Historic District
  • Brooklyn Museum
  • Buildings at 375-379 Flatbush Avenue and 185-187 Sterling Place
  • Carroll Gardens Historic District
  • Casemate Fort, Whiting Quadrangle
  • Clinton Hill Historic District
  • Clinton Hill South Historic District
  • Cobble Hill Historic District
  • Coney Island Fire Station Pumping Station
  • William B. Cronyn House
  • Cypress Avenue West Historic District
  • Ditmas Park Historic District
  • Eastern Parkway
  • Emmanuel Baptist Church
  • Erasmus Hall Academy
  • Feuchtwanger Stable
  • Flatbush Town Hall
  • Flatlands Dutch Reformed Church
  • Floyd Bennett Field Historic District
  • Fort Greene Historic District
  • Friends Meetinghouse and School
  • Fulton Ferry District
  • Gage and Tollner Restaurant
  • Grecian Shelter
  • Greenpoint Historic District
  • Hanson Place Seventh Day Adventist Church
  • Holy Trinity Church (Protestant Episcopal)
  • Hunterfly Road Historic District
  • Kings County Savings Bank
  • Knickerbocker Field Club
  • Lefferts-Laidlaw House
  • Manhattan Bridge
  • New England Congregational Church and Rectory
  • Parachute Jump
  • Park Slope Historic District
  • Prospect Park
  • Prospect Park South Historic District
  • Public Bath No. 7
  • Public School 108
  • Public School 111 and Public School 9 Annex
  • Public School 39
  • Public School 65K
  • Public School 7
  • Public School 71K
  • Quarters A
  • St. Bartholomew's Protestant Episcopal Church and Rectory
  • St. George's Protestant Episcopal Church
  • St. Luke's Protestant Episcopal Church
  • St. Mary's Episcopal Church
  • State Street Houses
  • Stoothoff-Baxter-Kouwenhaven House
  • Stuyvesant Heights Historic District
  • Twentythird Regiment Armory
  • U.S. Army Military Ocean Terminal
  • US Post Office-Metropolitan Station
  • US Post Office-Parkville Station
  • Weir Greenhouse
  • Willoughby-Suydam Historic District

• House at 58 Eighteenth Ave, in Sea Cliff, New York, which is apparently misidentified in NRIS as being in Lewis County, New York, while address and coordinates place it in Nassau County, New York, hundreds of miles away. --doncram (talk) 20:48, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

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• Andrews United Methodist Church, in Brooklyn, New York, misidentified in NRIS as being in New York County but located in Kings County. doncram (talk) 18:38, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

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• Kreischer House, at 4500 Arthur Kill Rd. in Staten Island (Richmond County), but misidentified in NRIS as being in New York, NY, in New York County. It should be shown in Richmond County. doncram (talk) 18:38, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

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• New York Central Adirondack Division Historic District described in this nomination doc for New York Central Adirondack Division Historic District runs through six New York State counties Essex, Franklin, Oneida, Hamilton, Herkimer, and St. Lawrence. NRIS and/or Elkman show it in just the endpoint counties, Essex and Oneida (unlike other linear districts such as the Delaware and Hudson Canal, which is shown in the many counties in NY and PA that it runs through). Issue noted by Mwanner. doncram (talk) 00:15, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
  • It seems that NRIS should have one primary record for this, but 5 or 6 secondary records showing it in each of these counties. doncram (talk) 21:06, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

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• Stuckman Cottage and Hill Cottage are listed under Franklin County, New York, but both are in fact in North Elba, New York in Essex County. In each case, the county was misidentified in the Registration Form, but a look at the maps submitted as part of the application makes clear the correct county (though on the earlier maps in each case, someone erroneously typed "Franklin County" at the top of the page-- the later maps show the true situation). See Stuckman and Hill at the OPRHP. -- Mwanner | Talk 15:01, 21 September 2008 (UTC).

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• Likewise, Barngalow, Morgan Cottage and Larom--Welles Cottage are listed under Essex County, but are in fact in Franklin County. In each case, the correction is hand-annotated on the first page of the registration form (see Barngalow, Morgan and Larom--Welles). -- Mwanner | Talk 15:34, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

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• Execution Rocks Light comes up in Elkman's infobox as being in Port Washington, New York, while the article says it is in the city limits of New Rochelle, New York. Someone just deleted it from the National Register of Historic Places listings in Nassau County, New York but neglected to add it to the National Register of Historic Places listings in Westchester County, New York. clariosophic (talk) 01:11, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Since this issue was raised, National Register of Historic Places listings in Westchester County, New York has been split, so Execution Rocks should be moved to National Register of Historic Places listings in southern Westchester County, New York. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 12:14, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

• Taconic State Parkway is listed for Columbia County, when in fact almost the entire road is included. I have manually added it to the Dutchess, Putnam and Westchester lists as well. Daniel Case (talk) 14:22, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Town location issue

• Isaac Young House (04000876) is listed as being in Ossinging, New York; it should actually be in Ossining, New York. --Elkman ^(Elkspeak) 04:11, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

• Typo in town name: Simeon B. Robbins House in Cattaraugus County, New York, listed at 9 Pine St., Franlinville, NY. It must be Franklinville, instead. NRIS error echoed in NRHP.COM listing. doncram (talk) 05:53, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

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• Typo in town name: Point Chautauqua Historic District on List of Registered Historic Places in Chautauqua County, New York is listed in NRIS as being in Maryville, New York, in that county. It is in Mayville, not Maryville. The NRIS coordinates show it by Mayville. There is no Maryville in that county or in New York State. doncram (talk) 02:05, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

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• Typo in town name: William W. Van Ness House, 270 NY 9H, Claverack, NY is listed in NRIS as being in "Claverak, NY". doncram (talk) 23:20, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

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• Possible typo in town name: In Ulster County, NY, there is a town named Hardenburgh, New York. A couple NRHPs are listed in "Hardenbergh" spelled with an e, instead:
  • Coykendall Lodge 42°3′15″N 74°40′27″W / 42.05417, -74.67417 Hardenbergh
  • Grant Mills Covered Bridge, Mill Brook Rd., over Mill Brook, 42°4′48″N 74°37′45″W / 42.08, -74.62917 Hardenbergh, while another, Balsam Lake Mountain Fire Observation Station, is listed in Hardenburgh.

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This confusion regarding Ulster's least populous and least accessible town is common. The family name of the original patent owners was spelled with an "e"; the town uses the "u", probably because these things always got confused. Daniel Case (talk) 14:28, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

• Christ Church is shown in Monroe, New York. Monroe is the county name, it's actually in Rochester. Also, it's listed at 141 E. Ave. which is correct, strictly speaking. However there is also an "E" Avenue in the vicinity, so I suggest we spell out "141 East Ave", which I have done on the Listings page. . . . . Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk • contribs) 15:49, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Oh, okay, Jameslwoodward already noted the problem. I was sorting it out as follows: There was a "Christ Church (Monroe, New York)" entry in the Elkman NRIS-based list-table. LtPowers commented "Monroe is not a neighborhood in Rochester. It is a town and village downstate in Orange County. However, we can't discount the possibility that a listing for an historic building in Monroe County was misfiled as being in the town or village of Monroe. Powers ^T 02:57, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

My comment was "Thanks for reply, that was regarding the following note which was in the article (and which I just removed): The place is the Christ Church (Rochester, New York). It appears there was a typo in the National Register's NRIS database entry, recording this as town=Monroe and town=Rochester when it should have been just Rochester, which is in Monroe County. The NRHP document showed location as "Rochester, Monroe County" which was misinterpreted to be a list of two towns that the place is in (when in fact it is just in Rochester)."

Anyhow, NRIS (and the NYS system) shows "Monroe" incorrectly in the town/city field, whether or not it made duplicate entries for two towns, it actually is in just one, Rochester. --doncram (talk) 16:55, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

For the record, it's "Avenue E", not "E Avenue", which most people would interpret as "East Avenue". That said, abbreviating "East" when that's the name of the road and not just a direction is probably unnecessary. Powers ^T 14:26, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

• Due to the overlap of the 12561 ZIP Code, two properties physically located in Gardiner are listed as being in New Paltz instead: Locust Lawn Estate and John A. Lafevre House and School. Daniel Case (talk) 14:28, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

• North Ridge United Methodist Church is listed in "Norh Ridge, New York", when it is in North Ridge. Typo: Norh; Correction:North. --doncram 04:29, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Street addresses

• St. Cecilia's Church and Convent (New York City) listed in NRIS on 160th Street in New York, but its coordinates place it on 106th Street. Assuming that 160th is an error, it is echoed on many websites that utilize NRIS data. doncram (talk) 19:17, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
  • The church's website states that it's on 106th. Nyttend (talk) 21:55, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
    • Thanks for finding that. I think i had searched for such a website but was not able to find it. Also, I think the NYS system which provides PDFs of NRHP application text/photos docs was down for a while, back then, and/or i did not know how to use it then. I was able to add link to PDF for this site, to its article, just now, which also verifies that the correct address is on 106th Street. Thanks! doncram (talk) 23:08, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

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• Community Place, in Skaneateles, New York built in 1830, NRHP-listed in 1979. It is located south of Skaneateles Falls on Sheldon Rd. It is located south of Skaneateles Falls, New York, at 680 Sheldon Road, while 725 Sheldon Road, a quarter mile or so away, is what is reported in NRIS. The 725 Sheldon Road address was the home of the former owner of Community Place, according to people now living at 725. The 1978 NRHP document showing the incorrect address is here, in the NYSOPRHP system. Have photos of mailboxes showing house numbers of both of them. doncram (talk) 17:34, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

• Sennett Federated Church and Parsonage is located at 7777 Weedsport-Sennett Rd., Sennett, New York, as appears in the NRHP nomination document and verified in person. The parsonage is 7771. NRIS shows: 777 Weedsport-Sennett Road; correct to 7777 Weedsport-Sennett Rd. doncram (talk) 23:13, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

• Lewis Mumford House is listed as being at 187 Leedsville Road in Amenia. However, since the 1999 listing the street has been renumbered (perhaps for 9-1-1) and no house exists at that number. I can't remember what the current house number is. Daniel Case (talk) 15:01, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

• Tuthill-Green House, refnum 95000066, is located per NRIS at 52 S. Main St. in Moravia, New York; however it is actually located at 59 S. Main St. The "59" can be seen in photo File:Tuthill-Green House, Moravia, United States Jul 15, 2022 08-42-16 AM.jpeg, which is house shown in NRHP document photos. The misidentification is not from NRIS data entry; the misidentification appears in the NRHP registration document. Perhaps the street was renumbered since the NRHP registration. It is located at exactly 42.70644°N 76.42116°W / 42.70644; -76.42116 (Tuthill-Green House). The NRHP registration document is Richard Carlson (October 1994). "National Register of Historic Places Registration: Tuthill-Green House". NARA. Retrieved 2009-11-10. and includes three photos from 1994. This was confusing partly as the house actually at 52 S. Main St. is a historic house with signage. --Doncram (talk) 02:49, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

• House at 46 South Main Street, refnum 95000065, in Moravia, New York is in fact the house located at 63 South Main Street, as can be seen in Google Streetview. Either the address was misidentified in the NRHP registration document, or the street was since renumbered. The registration document is Richard Carlson (October 1994). "National Register of Historic Places Registration: House at 46 South Main Street". NARA. Retrieved 2009-11-10. It includes two photos from 1994.

• North Chatham Historic District's location is described as "NY 203, County Roads 32 & 17, Depot St., Mill Ln., Bunker Hill & Dom Rds., North Chatham, New York", but there is no "Dom Rd.", it should be "Dorn Rd." instead. This was an NRIS data entry typo apparently; Dorn Rd. is used in the 2012 NRHP Registration document. And Dorn Rd. shows in Google maps, etc. --Doncram (talk,contribs) 17:50, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

Architect-builder-engineer issues

• Albany Union Station's listing gives architect as "Sheply, Rutan & Coolidge" when the correct name is Shepley, Rutan and Coolidge. The NRHP application document includes the misspelling of Sheply rather than correct spelling Shepley, for George Foster Shepley (architect), so it is not merely an NRIS data entry error. doncram (talk) 16:53, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
• Grand Central Terminal, 71-105 E. 42nd St. New York, NY correctly gives architect firm name Reed & Stem; but Grand Central Terminal (Boundary Increase: Park Avenue Viaduct), 71-105 E. 42nd St., Park Ave. between E. 40th and E. 42nd Sts. New York, NY incorrectly gives "Reed & Stern". Correction needed to change that "Stern" to "Stem". --doncram 11:30, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

• The Niagara, 201 Rainbow Blvd., Niagara Falls, New York is credited in NRIS to "Esenwein and Johnson of Buffalo, NY" which is not the firm's name; it should be credited to "Esenwein & Johnson" as are 5 other NRHP listings in New York, Massachusetts, and elsewhere. See wikipedia article Esenwein & Johnson. --doncram 05:12, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

• Fort Stanwix National Monument, bounded by Dominick, Spring, Liberty, and James Sts., Rome, New York (National Park Service), NRHP-listed

Editor cbl62 noted, about fort stanwix: "only evidence available shows that NPS "built" reproduction of Rev War for in 1970s; that sturcture not listed; and no evidence of any involvement by NPS architects"

So this would seem to be an error in NRIS, that NPS is identified as architect/builder/engineer. --doncram 17:54, 17 October 2012 on (UTC)

NRHP inventory/nomination document for Fort Stanwix, with correspondence, does seem to clarify that there is a maintenance building but no NPS-designed or other structures worth designation there, and that the fort is a 1970s reconstruction, and that the NRHP listing is as a place or site, not at all for any archeological site aspects or any other traditional NRHP-eligible artifacts. This is an unusual case, IMHO. It seems that NPS should not be noted as architect/builder/engineer. --doncram 18:15, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Ridgway vs. Ridgeway

Robert Ridgway (engineer) is credited in NRIS with one work and a mispelled version of his name as "Robert Ridgeway" is credited with more. Perhaps all from one MPS study. Items include:

• 15th Street-Prospect Park Subway Station (IND), 15th St./Prospect Park W and SW Brooklyn, NY, NRHP-listed
• 181st Street Subway Station (IND), Fort Washington Ave., Vet. W. 185th and 181st Sts. New York, NY, NRHP-listed
• 190th Street Subway Station (IND), Under Fort Washington Ave. bet. Fort Tryon Park (Cabrini Blvd.) and W. 190th St/ New York, NY, NRHP-listed
• 207th Street Yard-Signal Service Building and Tower B, W. 215th St. bet. Tenth Ave. and the Harlem R Manhattan, NY, NRHP-listed
• Concourse Yard Entry Buildings, W. 205th St., bet. Jerome and Paul Aves. Bronx, NY, NRHP-listed
• Concourse Yard Substation, 3119 Jerome Ave. Bronx, NY, NRHP-listed
• Coney Island Yard Gatehouse, SW corner of Shell Rd. and Avenue X Brooklyn, NY, NRHP-listed
• Main Street Subway Station (Dual System IRT), Near jct. of Roosevelt Ave. and Main St. Flushing, NY, NRHP-listed
• West 4th Street Subway Station (IND), Under Sixth Ave. Bet W 3rd St. and Waverly Place New York, NY, NRHP-listed
• Wilson Avenue Subway Station (Dual System BMT), Chauncey St. at Wilson Ave. Brooklyn, NY, NRHP-listed

Listing status

• Ontario and Livingston Mutual Insurance Office: The National Register of Historic Places' NRIS database gives listing code "DR" on October 9, 2008. "DR" designates "DATE RECEIVED/PENDING NOMINATION". So it is not clear whether, or when, the property has been listed on the National Register. --doncram (talk) 17:04, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

• There are incorret NRHP parameters used on the 145th Street (IRT Broadway – Seventh Avenue Line) article. While the station is historic enough to deserve NRHP status, all the documentation shows that the actual 145th Street Subway station with NRHP status in Manhattan is 145th Street (IRT Lenox Avenue Line). ----DanTD (talk) 12:35, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Coordinates issues

• An example of a potential coordinates merger error, or perhaps just a regular NRIS data entry error, is US Customhouse in New York City which appears to have gotten the coords for another US Customhouse in Niagara, NY. --Doncram

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• Also, I thought this happened with the two "Delaware, Lackawanna & Western Railroad Station" NRHPs in New York state, one in Leicester, New York in Livingston County and one in Painted Post, New York, in Steuben County. I thought the Steuben county one got the Livingston County's coordinates. But in fact it appears the given Steuben county coords (43°3′44″N 77°7′19″W) are just wrong, and the Livingston County NRHP's coords (42°46′17″N 77°53′52″W) are different and are fine. doncram (talk) 16:00, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

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• NRIS coordinates for the Flatiron Building at 5th Ave. and Broadway St in Manhattan place it west, just across the Hudson River in New Jersey: 40°44′29″N 74°1′33″W doncram (talk) 19:15, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

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• For example, NRIS coords for Cypress Avenue West Historic District, in Brooklyn, show it 50 miles or so north in Poughkeepsie. The district is "Roughly bounded by St. Nicholas and Seneca Aves., Linden and Stockholm Sts." in Ridgewood area of Brooklyn. NRIS coords: 41°36′6″N 73°53′59″W. doncram (talk) 19:15, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

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A few more:

• The Balloon Farm at 128 Cemetery Rd. in Frankfort, New York listed as 43°2′26″N 75°4′45″W, should be 43°49′05″N 75°51′11″W

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• Fort St. Frederic, at the Jct. of NY 8 and 9N, Crown Point, New York listed at 44°0′58″N 74°39′51″W, should be at 44°01′43″N 73°25′22″W

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• Leetch, Dr. Henry, House at 3 Johnson Rd., Saranac Lake, New York listed at 44°19′35″N 74°8′0″W, should be 44°19′35″N 74°7′14″W

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• Hopkins Cottage, 5 Birch St., Saranac Lake, New York listed at 44°18′52″N 73°47′33″W, should be 44°19′04″N 74°07′48″W

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• Delaware & Hudson Railroad Depot, 126 Champlain Avenue, Ticonderoga, New York listed at 44°50′51″N 73°25′22″W should be 43°50′51″N 73°25′22″W (apparent typo)

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• Azure Mountain, Waverly, New York, listed at 44°32′48″N 74°29′0″W, should be 44°32′34″N 74°30′17″W

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• Camp Intermission, Northwest Bay Rd., Saranac Lake, New York listed at 44°20′53″N 73°55′26″W, should be 44°20′53″N 74°08′56″W

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-- Mwanner | Talk 00:33, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

• McVickar House, at 131 Main St., Irvington has these NRIS coords: 41°2′20″N 79°51′57″W, which put it 100 miles west, in Pennsylvania. doncram (talk) 22:20, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

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• Hunt Memorial Building, in NY Ulster county, 2 Liberty St., corner of Liberty and Canal Sts.
  NRIS coords 44°6′18″N 74°22′13″W way off, vs. Daniel Case coords: 2 Liberty St., corner of Liberty and Canal Sts.
  41°43′02″N 74°23′38″W is this in Ellenville. Fixed by Daniel Case. doncram (talk) 02:35, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

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• Three others from the Town of Islip, New York are off; The Joseph Wood House is listed next door to the St. Ann's Episcopal Church (Sayville, New York), the St. Ann's Episcopal Church is listed in the driveway leading to the John Ellis Roosevelt Estate, and the aforementioned estate is listed as being on Baywood Lane, in Bayport, New York, when it's actually deep within the dirt driveway in Sayville, New York currently listed as the St. Ann's church I mentioned before. ----DanTD (talk) 11:07, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

• The newly listed Rev. Paul Cuffee Gravesite which was recently added to the National Register of Historic Places listings in Southampton (town), New York is said to be in Hampton Bays, New York, however, the geocoordinates show it as being on Main Street in Southampton (village), New York. Additionally, the given address in Hampton Bays is actually shown on Google Street View as being "Weber & Grahn Heat & Air Conditioning." Unless that gravesite is in behind or across the street from Weber & Grahn Heat & Air Conditioning neither the coordinates nor the address seem right at all. ----DanTD (talk) 19:34, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

• The Roslyn National Bank and Trust Company Building is incorrectly located at 40°48′3″N 73°38′52″W, when it should be slightly to the east at 40.801803°N 73.646931°W / 40.801803; -73.646931, which is also "Tyrone." ----DanTD (talk) 02:45, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
  • Somehow I was able to fix it myself. That's no guarantee I'll be able to do others. ----DanTD (talk) 02:48, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

• New issue; The Potter–Williams House (Huntington, New York) is located at 165 Wall Street in Huntington, New York, but the coordinates (which I removed) places the house at 111 Tanyard Lane. I saw the house on Google Street View, but I can't get the right coordinates to turn up. Other coordinate problems are out there, but I can't think of them all right now. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 14:06, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
  • UPDATE: Resolved a while back. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 23:05, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

• Another Town of Huntington issue; The Henry Williams House (Huntington, New York) is located at 43 Mill Lane, but the coordinates given (which I also removed) actually located it along West Neck Road next door to the United Methodist Church between Tanyard and Cider Mill Lanes. Also, Mill Lane in the Town of Huntington runs along the Halesite-Huntington CDP border, and this house is on the Halesite side. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 15:17, 1 August 2018 (UTC)