Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2006 October 9

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October 9

Keep, the photo has been uploaded on a website that claims "no copyright" and is clearly not coming from a professional photographer.--Panarjedde 19:20, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

1) I can't find it on the source site (and I'm not about to wade through all the pages), and 2) it looks like a scan from a magazine or newspaper. Also 3) I can't read Italian so where exactly does it say the images on the site are not copyrighted? They all look like media images to me. howch e ng {chat} 23:37, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. While it does say "No copyright" on the front of the page that can at best be read to mean the webmaster claims on copyright on the material himself. There are clearly several media images, newspaper scans and video clips captured from TV broadcasts on the site that defenently are under copyright (and the "texture" of the image kinda looks like it's scanned from a printed picture), and while most of the images seem to be contributed via e-mail by users of the site, those would all be copyrighted by whoever took the photos. Nowhere (that I fan find) does it say that contributors must transfer all theyr rights to the images to the webmaster. The site obviously have permissinon to use those images, but that is no basis to say that the (unknown) photographer who took that image have released all rights to it. I know copyright laws can be a PITA in these cases, but we need to contact the photographer directly to determine the status of the image, and this site doesn't say who contributed it (I haven't even found the actuial image on the site yet). You might try contacting the webmaster to see if he has kept any records of who sent him wich photos and try tracking down the actual photographer. If you get the copyright holder to say that all rights to the image have been waived or permission to use it under a free license have been granted I'd be happy to undelete it at that time, but currently the copyright status is unclear at best. --Sherool (talk) 07:52, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The image is taken from highly biased website. No verifiable information about the photo (author, time, circumstances) are available. therefore the image cannot be used in such a controversial article as Pontic Greek Genocide. It must be 100% solid proof to make such accusation. Mukadderat 17:26, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But in that case, who's to say that any pictures are really valid? I think the real question with the picture is if it's copyvio or not. --Awiseman 16:15, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think this image could be kept and tagged as a {{HistoricPhoto}}.--Tekleni 17:50, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That makes sense. So how do we go about doing that? --Awiseman 20:43, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The photo comes from a 'relatively' biased site called 'www.hellenicgenocide.com' that has given no indications as to where it comes from.. This could easily be the property of a magazine like National Geographic. And most importantly there are no indications from reliable academic sources as to the date it was taken.. Which means that this photo could be the property of National Geo about an event that happened in 1965 in Kazakhstan.. And as such this would put Wiki in direct competition with National Geo, which would be a clear breach of copyright regulation in every country, and as such would not fall under fair use provisions. Baristarim 21:53, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's a lot of supposition. What's the policy on photos like this? --Awiseman 19:34, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly. There is lots of supposition about the content of the photo. And the policy is wikipedia:Verifiability. The website the photo taken from claims it is "dead villagers of Giresun". But Giresun is a town. This means this website is careless to facts. For all we know these may be "dead 'villagers' of Baghdad died of plague". Mukadderat 21:37, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I responded to this on the article's page - "villagers" is virtually the same thing as "townspeople." To me, that seems like a terrible reason to argue against this photo. It's really splitting hairs. --Awiseman 21:45, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

[after edit conflict with Awiseman]: Village vs town is subjective. Giresun may have been a village back then, and considering that most of its population will have been slaughtered by the Young Turks, one could also have classified it as a near-lifeless locality. What you have not yet demonstrated is why the image should be deleted.--Tekleni 21:47, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also, this image can be found on some pages of the website of the Democritus University of Thrace [1] which also says it's Greeks from Giresun, and they also say "feel free to mirror this site" [2]. Does this mean the image is not copyrighted...--Tekleni 21:56, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

These pages don't say they own the picture. Therefore "feel free to mirror this site" means "feel free to take take the goodies we stole elsewhere. We have more." Mukadderat 22:11, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know if you've ever been to univeristy, but they're pretty strict on what can be done on their servers. One could assume that any picture uploaded to Wikipedia from a source claiming "feel free to use" is lying. You have provided no evidence. They clearly say feel free to use... the responsibility is theirs...--Tekleni 22:16, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Crooked logic. They provided no evidence. The burden of proof is theirs. It is clear that they did not take the photo. Source is unknown. Period. Your play of words and gaming of policies won't work. One must have a permission of an author or owner. These websites don't say they are authors or owners. They say "feel free to use what I downloaded from somewhere". This is not how civilized society works. Mukadderat 05:03, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

All they say is that anyone can use the picture (perhaps this means that it is not copyrighted).--Tekleni 09:03, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. It is the responsibility of the uploader to make sure the image can be used on Wikipedia. No verifiable source = no use. howch e ng {chat} 23:41, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Uploaded by Deciiva (notify | contribs). Possible CV. The news of CAF use same image.[3] Believe to be copy form web news site and some text himeself. Matt86hk talk 18:27, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Uploaded by Looper5920 (notify | contribs). LQ, OR, OB by Commons image Image:11th Wing.png. — Wwagner 19:37, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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