Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of female Nobel Laureates

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The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 21:23, 28 October 2008 [1].

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List of female Nobel Laureates

I'm currently planning to submit List of Nobel laureates in Economics for the FLC contest, but found this as well. — sephiroth bcr ^(converse) 05:19, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Comments - sources look okay, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:47, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

• Comments I copyedited some. Should be good to go. Gary King (talk) 02:16, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 14:13, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Resolved issues, Dabomb87 (talk)

Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)

• "The Nobel Prizes are awarded annually by the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences for individuals"—"for"-->to.

• Fixed. — sephiroth bcr ^(converse) 02:31, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

• "In 2008, the winners were awarded the prize amount of 10,000,000 SEK." "the"-->a.

• Fixed. — sephiroth bcr ^(converse) 02:31, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

• "Among Nobel Prize categories, 12 women have won the Nobel Peace Prize, more than any other category." Since the sentence says "more than any other category", the first phrase is redundant.

• Fixed. — sephiroth bcr ^(converse) 02:31, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

• Since the table is sortable, all the countries need to be linked.

• Fixed. — sephiroth bcr ^(converse) 02:31, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

• Get an experienced FAC image reviewer to check the images to make sure they are properly tagged/licensed/attributed.

• I'll look into that (Hmm...Eco or David?). — sephiroth bcr ^(converse) 02:31, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Dabomb87 (talk) 02:27, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Think that's it. — sephiroth bcr ^(converse) 02:31, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Did you forget to hit the save button? None of your fixes are showing. And yes, David Fuchs or Eco would be fine. Dabomb87 (talk) 02:39, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

*smacks self* Yes, I did. And I've asked David here. — sephiroth bcr ^(converse) 02:45, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

• Image comments:

• • Image:Jane Addams profile.jpg should have an expired/pd tag, not a self-pd

• Fixed tag. — sephiroth bcr ^(converse) 16:15, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

• • Image:Pearl Buck.jpg is ca. 1932, thus the expired copyright tag is invalid.

• Cut. — sephiroth bcr ^(converse) 16:15, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

• • Image:Gabriela Mistral-01.jpg has deletion tag as no indication of public domain (published 1950s)

• Cut. — sephiroth bcr ^(converse) 16:15, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

• • Image:Maria Goeppert-Mayer.gif no indication of its copyright status, with no year of publication

• Cut. — sephiroth bcr ^(converse) 16:15, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

• • Image:Betty Williams.jpg no link to discussion which allows free use

• Here apparently. — sephiroth bcr ^(converse) 16:15, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

• • Image:Wangari Maathai potrait by Martin Rowe.jpg - How do we know the uploader is the author, and the work has been freely released?

• Cut. — sephiroth bcr ^(converse) 16:15, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

--All others should check out. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^(talk) 12:35, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Think that's it. — sephiroth bcr ^(converse) 16:15, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Ok, thats fine save for the betty williams one, I'm not sure of. Check with User:Elcobbola about it, he's more experienced with that sort of thing. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^(talk) 20:06, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Did so. Thanks for the review. — sephiroth bcr ^(converse) 20:18, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Per Eco's comments, I've removed the image pending confirmation from OTRS that they received the email granting permission to use the image and that the image has been ticketed. Cheers, — sephiroth bcr ^(converse) 20:54, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Issues resolved, Эlcobbola _talk 22:36, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

• Oppose per WP:IUP (image usage policy) concerns. I apologize for opposing when my help was sought for another issue, but I've found serious issues:
  • Image:Pierre and Marie Curie.jpg - image does not appear at the source. Date of "prior 1907, because Pierre Curie died in 1906" gives the impression that date of creation, not publication, was used when choosing a PD tag. Creation is not the same as publication. How do we know, for example, that this didn't sit in a drawer for 30 years? How can we verify a publication date?

    Cut. Do note that I didn't upload any of these, and my default reaction if I have no idea how to solve the issue will be to remove the image. — sephiroth bcr ^(converse) 22:06, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

  • Image:Mariecurie.jpg - source has no date information for this image; how can we confirm it was published before 1.1.1923?

    Cut. — sephiroth bcr ^(converse) 22:06, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

  • Image:Bertha-von-Suttner-1906.jpg - why are we claiming PD based on 70 years after the author's death when the author is "??"; this would be fine if the image were dated 1806, but is not reasonable for a 1906 image (what if a 30-year-old took it and died in 1946, aged 70. That's not an unreasonable scenario). Source, further, is not verifiable; what edition of the Stadtchronik Wien?

    Cut. — sephiroth bcr ^(converse) 22:06, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

  • Image:Irène Joliot-Curie.jpg - derivative of this image, the source for which does not contain any date information; how can we confirm it was published before 1.1.1923? Why does the summary say "originally published in Jefferson College Times, March 2005" when the copyright tag is claiming pre-1.1.1923 publication?

    Cut. — sephiroth bcr ^(converse) 22:06, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

  • Image:Maria Goeppert-Mayer.gif - needs a verifiable source. A hitherto deleted en.wiki page is not acceptable. Image is claiming PD-Old; how can we confirm the author has been dead 70 years (seems unlikely to be the case, as Goeppert-Mayer was born in 1906 and seems to be at least in her 30s in this image).

    Cut. — sephiroth bcr ^(converse) 22:06, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

  • I didn't have time to look at any of the other images. Please judiciously review all images (I even had to fix Image:Jane Addams profile.jpg, the source for which was a dead link). Эlcobbola _talk 21:16, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
    • Only two other image issues (things get easier with living people):
    • Image:Dorothy Crowfoot Hodgkin.jpg - same issue with permission as Image:Betty Williams.jpg; how can we confirm this wiki-based permission? The permission of "by all means use the photo of Dorothy Hodgkin, with a credit to Pugwash Conferences on Science and World Affairs", further, is not sufficient as it does not explicitly articulate whether derivatives, reproduction, or commercial use is allowed.

      Left a message on the uploader's talk page. In the meantime, cut. — sephiroth bcr ^(converse) 22:06, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

    • Image:Rita Levi-Montalcini in 1965.jpg - source needs to be a link to a page with author/license information, not directly to the image itself. Эlcobbola _talk 21:34, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

      Added a link here. No idea whether the search will time out or not though. The material in the image description looks accurate though. — sephiroth bcr ^(converse) 22:06, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

      I added the "Order Number" identifier so the image can be easily found if the search times out. The other images still appear to be in the article? Эlcobbola _talk 22:18, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

      I have a horrible habit of forgetting to hit the save button after going down the checklist at a nomination :p Done now. — sephiroth bcr ^(converse) 22:30, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Comment - article (i.e. list) looks good on the image front (aside from Image:Dorothy Crowfoot Hodgkin.jpg, which is still hanging around); I'll see whether I can find time tonight to locate some verifiably-sourced replacements. Эlcobbola _talk 22:36, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

• Now removed. And thanks for the offer to find replacements. Any efforts in this regard would be greatly appreciated. — sephiroth bcr ^(converse) 22:41, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

• Comment Nit-picky issue, but some of the "rationale" items have periods at the end of the sentences, and others don't. I'd prefer to see consistency. Considering that all of the rationales are quotations, they should all end with a period. Also too bad not every woman has a photo. Otherwise it looks good. Ariel♥Gold 01:24, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• The only "rationale" items with periods are the Peace Prize laureates who don't have quotes, and the punctuation is there so I can have something separating the reference and the word. All quoted items don't have a period because the official site gives it without a period also. — sephiroth bcr ^(converse) 03:48, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

• Support Can't see any problem. Good work —Chris! _ct 19:19, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

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