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Trotter Museum-Gallery

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Hyper-local museum that is local and about local things. Since it's an article about a company or organization, the relevant guideline for evaluation is WP:NCORP which this article does not sufficiently pass, especially on the lack of significant independent reliable coverage in media beyond the local audience base. Graywalls (talk) 14:26, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Museums and libraries, Organizations, and California. Graywalls (talk) 14:26, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Business and Companies. Graywalls (talk) 14:36, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

* Delete. Not notable. Article was set up by a now-blocked user who recently commented as follows on his talk page: "Yes, I set the Notability bar lower because I think certain people and places need recognition" [1]. That says it all, when something in his local area isn't notable, he sets up a Wikipedia article to give them more recognition. Cart before horse. Fortunately, it isn't Greg Henderson who "sets the notability bar" on Wikipedia. Axad12 (talk) 21:04, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Axad12:, the nomination isn't based on who created the article, but based on having the appearance of creation of a non-notable local feature.Having said that, this article isn't Greg related. Graywalls (talk) 22:43, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed; Greg never touched this article. That's why it's usually best to stay focused on sources and notability guidelines in AfD discussions. Left guide (talk) 23:34, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Axad12, did you look closely at this article and its page history? Do you want to rethink your "vote"? The page creator is not blocked. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:24, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My error here was an exceptionally stupid and incompetent one for which there can be no excuses. I have struck my vote in its entirety. My apologies. Axad12 (talk) 04:48, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Hi, I wrote this article. I am not related to Trotter's Museum. The Trotter Museum primarily focuses on early California art, particularly paintings. These artworks are created by renowned artists whose works are sold at auction houses for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Therefore, it's inaccurate to claim that the museum is hyper-local. The article includes links to these artists, making it easy to verify that they are not local. For example, Granville Redmond, a deaf painter, is represented in the museum and is a beloved figure in the deaf community. Charlton Fortune is one of the most important American Impressionists. The museum features these paintings as part of its permanent collection, unlike the Monterey Museum of Art (which has early California art but does not have it in their permanent exhibit). There are numerous books that mention Trotter's Museum and Gallery contributions, including prominent works by Scott Shields, the director of the Crocker Art Museum in Sacramento, which I referenced in the Wikipedia article. These are nationally recognized publications.Puncinus (talk) 01:13, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment/question I can find no sourcing outside of Wiki mirrors, which is odd because there should be some sourcing including the Shields ones currently referenced. Was it known under other names besides the Trotters' antique shop? Clearly not passing N:ORG at the moment but wonder if something we're missing so not !voting as of yet. Star Mississippi 01:42, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You are mistaken that there is no sourcing. Trotter Gallery is mentioned in numerous books about early California paintings and travel guides. Here is a partial list:

Patricia Trenton, Sandra D'Emilio. Independent Spirits: Women Painters of the American West. University of California Press, 1995. - Trotter Galleries, Carmel.

Steven A. Nash, Bill Berkson, Fine Arts Museums of San Francisco. Facing Eden: 100 Years of Landscape Art in the Bay Area. University of California Press, 1995. - Trotter Galleries, Pacific Grove.

Scott A. Shields. Artists at Continent's End: The Monterey Peninsula Art Colony, 1875-1907. Crocker Art Museum, 2006. - Terry and Paula Trotter of Trotter Galleries.

EC Pennington. A Southern Collection. Morris Museum of Art, 1992. - Trotter Galleries, Pacific Grove, California.

WS Morris. A Southern Collection. Morris Museum of Art, 1993. - Trotter Galleries, Pacific Grove, California.

Nick Kanas. Star Maps: History, Artistry, and Cartography. Springer, 2019. - Trotter Galleries in Carmel and Pacific Grove, CA.

Lora Ann Sigler. Clothes Make the Character: The Role of Wardrobe in Early. McFarland, 2021. - Trotter Galleries.

Art of California, Vol. 4, Issues 1-2, 1991. - Trotter Galleries, Pacific Grove, CA.

Worth, Vol. 17, Issues 1-6, 2008. - Trotter Galleries, CA.

Antiques, Vol. 158, 2000. - Trotter Galleries.

Monterey Life, Vol. 10, Issues 7-12, 1989. - Trotter Galleries, Pacific Grove, CA.

Collector's Guide, Vol. 14, No. 1, 2000. - Trotter Galleries.

Wendy Van Wyck Good. Sisters in Art: The Biography of Margaret, Esther, and Helen. Prospect Hill Press, 2021. - Trotter Galleries.

Nancy M. Evans, Neil A. Evans. Exploring the Monterey Peninsula: Big Sur, Carmel, Monterey. John Muir Publications, 1994. - Trotter Galleries, Pacific Grove, CA.

Peter Hiller. Life and Times of Jo Mora: Iconic Artist of the American West. Gibbs Smith, 2021. - Trotter Galleries, Pacific Grove, CA.

Art Now Gallery Guide, Vol. 8, Issues 4-6, 1988. - Trotter Galleries, Pacific Grove, CA.

Nancy Dustin Wall Moure, Historical Collections Council. Historical Collections Council Newsletters: January 1999-May 2006. Historical Collections Council, 2006. - Trotter Galleries, Carmel.

Phil Kovinick, Marian Yoshiki-Kovinick. An Encyclopedia of Women Artists of the American West. University of Texas Press, 1998. - Trotter Galleries, Carmel, CA.

SA Shields. Legends of Bohemia: The Monterey Peninsula and its Early Art Colony, 1875–1907. 2004. - Terry and Paula Trotter of Trotter Galleries.

Nick Kanas. Terrestrial and Celestial Pictorial Maps. In Star Maps: History, Artistry, and Cartography. Springer, 2019. - Trotter Galleries, Carmel and Pacific Grove, CA.

SA Shields, J Burton-Carvajal. Will Sparks: California's Mission Painter. tfaoi.org. - Trotter Galleries.

E Kornhauser, S Vittoria, RJ Geary. Jules Tavernier and the Elem Pomo. Metropolitan Museum of Art, 2021. - Trotter Galleries.

S Landauer, WH Gerdts, P Trenton. The Not-so-still Life: A Century of California Painting and Sculpture. University of California Press, 2003. - Trotter Galleries. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Puncinus (talk • contribs) 02:49, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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