Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Washington Football Team vs. New York Giants Game September 2021

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The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 04:33, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Washington Football Team vs. New York Giants Game September 2021

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Proposed for deletion by other editors, I'm just making a formal nomination. It fails WP:SPORTSEVENT as it's not the final series (or single game when there is not a series) determining the champion of a top league, it isn't a college bowl games, it's not an all-star games, and it is not a game that is widely considered by independent reliable sources to be notable. The only reporting is all routine coverage, as to be expected by an early season game that didn't have any notable events (like a large comeback or major record broken) and it was a game like the 2018 Rams vs Chiefs game. Rockchalk7 17 04:52, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. Rockchalk7 17 04:52, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. Rockchalk7 17 04:52, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom.-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 05:31, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete (as user who proposed the deletion). Clearly routine and will have no lasting impact, as it has already disappeared from the news cycle. Sounder Bruce 05:38, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Is there any evidence that there is WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE?—Bagumba (talk) 06:52, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Utterly routine game between teams nobody expects to contend in Super Bowl LVI. Clarityfiend (talk) 09:22, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete nothing that makes this game stand out enough that it's notable enough for a separate article. Coverage is just standard routine coverage. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:26, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, if there's any useful content, it could be merged into 2021 New York Giants season#Game summaries, but not all the information (as that section is intended as a match summary). Joseph2302 (talk) 11:05, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. It was an exciting game, no doubt, but we choose as a matter of editorial judgment to cover NFL games in season articles on the respective teams. We discourage stand-alone articles on regular-season games except in truly extraordinary and historic cases. Cbl62 (talk) 11:29, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, per all above. Anything worth saying about this game can be briefly summarized at 2021 Washington Football Team season, 2021 New York Giants season, and Giants–Washington rivalry, as appropriate. Ejgreen77 (talk) 12:00, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
delete would be more suitable for an online sports almanac, suggest enthusiastic editors try another wiki.--Paul McDonald (talk) 14:37, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- BTW: I looked around and see footall wiki and don't see any games since 2019, perhaps it is defunct? -Reagle (talk) 17:33, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom et al. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:31, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - nothing special about this game. Rlendog (talk) 16:38, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I appreciate the work Pippalenderking did here, but I don't follow sports enough to know how notable this game was. If the consensus is for delete, I appreciate the suggestions for places a summary might be included. I didn't think this was an issue given Notability_(sports) states the criteria include "inherently notable, including but not limited to the following". I misread this as fairly inclusionist. People have mentioned some helpful exclusionary criteria here: "ongoing," "truly extraordinary," "lasting impact," "continuing news cycle [beyond the week of the game]". I recommend including these in the policy to make it more clear. -Reagle (talk) 17:33, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Generally, individual sports matches don't warrant an individual article unless they're tournament finals or have exceptionally high coverage e.g. 2018 Kansas City Chiefs–Los Angeles Rams game which set multiple records. There's nothing exceptional about a team winning a match on a field goal, even if it was caused by a penalty- this happens at least once a season (and many times a week games are won on a final FG).
@Reagle: Notability guidelines can be confusing, and I concur that NSPORT could be amended to make the criteria more clear. I mentioned this on the talk page of the article in question, but as it is heading to a SNOW deletion I will repeat it here: I suggest that Pippalenderking take a look at Wikipedia:Requested articles/Sports, which has a large list of suggested article topics that have not been created yet. Just about anything in there should almost certainly pass notability guidelines. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 18:01, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Trainsandotherthings: I disagree that most of the things listed in Wikipedia:Requested articles/Sports are notable. When I looked at the American football section, most are either assistant coaches, college players, foreign teams, or minor league players/owners, all of which do not meet NSPORT based on the descriptions. If Pippalenderking is interested in football topics that need creation, I would suggest the user look at Wikipedia:WikiProject National Football League/Articles to create or Wikipedia:WikiProject College football/Season articles campaign. I don't know of the notability for other topics listed on the page. BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:56, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. I think WP:SNOWCLOSE can be applied - great discussion. – The Grid (talk) 17:44, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, per nom, though some of this information should be added to 2021 Washington Football Team season or 2021 New York Giants season. BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:56, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. The game was just another routine event and controversial endings to close games are not uncommon. LSGH (talk) (contributions) 19:09, 10 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I just want to offer my thanks and appreciation for all of the advice on my article. This is the first article I've ever written for Wikipedia and I am grateful for all the suggestions you have provided! I am going to look into contributing to other related articles -- thank you for including me in this valuable discussion! Pippalenderking (talk) 23:30, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, per policy. I'd ordinarily be sympathetic to keeping WikiEd pages that are anywhere near the borderline, but this is such a clear routine sports event that I can't support delaying. — Mikehawk10 (talk) 03:12, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete routine sports event. Generally it takes a significant play or record (such as Hail Murray or the 2007 Pats-Giants game), major controversy (such as Bottlegate) or significant off-field lead up (e.g. Tom Brady’s return to New England) for a regular season game to have its own page. This game had none of these, simply a game winning field goal on the final play, something very common in football games. Frank Anchor^Talk 13:32, 14 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete; Easy decision here, per nomination comments. Nothing noteworthy in this game. Spf121188 (talk) 21:34, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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