Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/American Smokeless

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

With known FALSE claims removed. The current result of the debate is KEEP. Robert ^{T | @ | C} 23:15, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

American Smokeless, The Ubie

• KEEP The Ubie should be added to this nomination. Pilatus 19:43, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

• Delete blatent advertising Ian 13 19:10, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. This is wrong on too many levels to count. Durova 19:28, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

This user makes a false argument. Let me count the ways. (see complete explanation below) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abmin (talk • contribs) 12:13, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

• Delete them both. Pilatus 19:43, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

• Keep The American Smokeless article can surely be deleted, as it really is nothing but advertising, but I think the article on The Ubie should be kept, and possibly expanded, so as to appear less of an advertisement and more of a description of the invention and it's function. Tobacco links to The Ubie article, and it does seem to describe an alternative to traditional smoking. Judgements about the company's choices of marketing, however unfortunate those choices might be to our point of view, don't detract from the existence of the item itself. I think it deserves an entry. Also, I don't think the idea of waiting ten years to see if the technology is widely adopted to be realistic, otherwise we'd have to delete articles on the Itanium and the XBox 360, for example. The article may have started as a blatant ad, but we can make it into something better, rather than throw the baby out with the bathwater. (I haven't yet done so, since there's no point in expending effort to improve the article until the VfD is resolved, but if the article stays, I will step up.) SleepyHappyDoc 19:42, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

• KEEPThe Ubie (U.S. Pat. Smokeless Pipe) is a patented invention that forever changes the definition of vaporizer.

The referances are third party (USPTO.GOV and Skunk Magazine vol 1 p103) and signify that it is a unique and exceptional invention. They are notable enough to be published by a reputable smoking magazine and the Ubited States Governemt. They are in no way rutine. A patent is a dificult thing to acheive. And a review of smoking products also notes it's importance.

The invention replaces klunky plugin vaporizers with an unltra portable, liquid powered, lightweight and inexpencive means of safer smoking. The Ubie is the cheapest, smallest and most efficient product under that catagory. 90% less toxic than smoking, the Ubie can save 2700 lives per day in the US alone. The Mindless shills that have voted to attack the ubie. Com by deleting it here are all guilty of unfair treatment. (they list many products that are less significant and brands (Soda, Cigarettes etc. )which are unpatented. There is no competing technology like the Ubie. The referances commonly use to attack the Ubie are legally false. It is a new technology which changes the definition of vaporizer. Omission from wikipedia is entirely an attack on it's owner and represents a failure of wikipedia to police the edits here. Their attacks are disruptive alter the nature of wikipedia.

The Ubie is attacked by a sophisticated and well funded group of raketeers who simply want to steal the ENORMOUSLY SUCESSFULL technology. They make bootleg versions which sell for TEN TIMES THE PRICE because they have been able to omit the ubie from important places online. AmericanSmokeless .com is a health consious company that does not gouge the American people.

The delete mobs here make this institution a pathetic farse. They need to grow up and learn about life. The attackers have places bootleg images of the Ubie Flame-Through Vaporizer technology on Vaporizer. User: Abmin

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.