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Evidence presented by Mathsci

Response to Question 1

No. As far as I am aware there has been no interaction of any significance between Ferahgo the Assassin and me, outside this request for amendment. All issues involving WP:ARBR&I have already been dealt with at WP:AE.

Response to Questions 2 and 3

Yes and yes. I already answered these questions in the final response to the two motions on the main case page (there have been further problems from Mikemikev relating to the death of Slrubenstein):

2. Yes. Echigo mole, a serial wikistalker for three years now, who has disturbed this arbcom page at least 6 times and has attempted to troll on article space pages, including most recently mathematics articles. Some of his edits have involved outing. (b) Mikemikev, a banned user who uses racist and antisemitic language on and off wikipedia. Abritrators and oversighters have had to disappear account names which have been open outing; an arbitrator had to remove diffs from ANI in an unrelated discussion where an ipsock of Mikemikev wrote "I agree with anythying that [my full name] says." That was in place for a day or two. Mikemikev has created an attack page on commons, subsequently deleted by Philippe Beaudette through the help of Moonriddengirl, which he had posted on my talk page. In addition he has posted pages on Stormfront about "Wikipedia Jews" and has several times attempted to post an attack article on ED.ch.

3. Yes. Unless I am mistaken, all SPI/CU requests initiated by me concerning sockpuppetry in this area have related to Mikemikev. He has created multiple named sock accounts in this area, some of them aimed at attacking individuals. Examples of other individuals: RLShinyblingstone [Slrubenstein; please note[1]], MarginaliaSucks (talk · contribs) [Professor marginalia]. Problematic names: Juden Raus, Suarneduj. Mikemikev managed to control himself a little while he was on wikipedia, but racist/antisemitic postings went on beforehand on the web and continue now with the same username. Several copyvios by sockpuppets of Mikemikev have been deleted from commons at my request. As another editor pointed out recently, he is now editing in parallel at metapedia under the same username. Occasionally he uses proxy accounts in Australia and the Far East. I have also reported reported ipsocks of Tholzel, another banned user. From my point of view, far more disruption has occurred on Europe and Seventh-adventist articles. The most recent problematic accounts there have been Andriabenia, Rejedef and BelloWello.

Response to Question 4

Yes. The contributions of Ferahgo the Assassin and Captain Occam, who have stated that they edit from the same location, are indistinguishable outside article space. Although I have examined in detail their editing histories, diff by diff, I cannot see that picking out diffs from those histories would serve any purpose at all. I certainly do not have a score to settle with either of them. Everybody, including me, makes mistakes and the best thing is to learn from them.

Response to Question 5

No. I am still a little surprised that Captain Occam was site-banned.

Suggestion

To clear the air and as an experiment, might this review not be an appropriate occasion to lift unconditionally the topic bans on David.Kane [Ephery] and Captain Occam/Ferahgo the Assassin?

Request from Roger Davies

It would be helpful indeed if you could cross-reference the material you wish us to rely on to your various previous statements. The easiest way is probably to add the {{anchor}} (using, say "Note 1", "Note 2" etc at appropriate places in your various previous statements) and adding a note under each question heading along the lines of see "Note 1", "Note 2", "Note 6" etc, with the "Note 1", "Note 2" etc being the tags used in the anchors. Thank you,  Roger Davies ^talk 08:51, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Or, better still, simply extract the pertinant stuff and copy it here.  Roger Davies ^talk 09:04, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

That has already been done for questions 2 and 3, which I copied from the main page. Probably I will add other evidence before March 26 (which will supplement the response to Q4 above). I hope also that any evidence presented by Captain Occam/Ferahgo the Assassin will be relayed to me and others in some form. Presumably, since Ferahgo the Asassin and Captain Occam are submitting as a team, the limits on the length of evidence and number of diffs have been relaxed in some way. I don't envisage going over the limit in the number of words or diffs (not counting your section here). Mathsci (talk) 09:10, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Evidence presented by Hipocrite

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Is MathSci Being Harassed by Socks?

• YesUser Example socks
• YesUser Example Socks
• YesUser Example Socks

Should Mathsci be pursuing socks in the R&I topic?

Yes. MathSci is the only user diligently dealing with the problem. Since September 2010, there have been 53 MikeMikeV sock reports (Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Mikemikev/Archive) - MikeMikeV is the sock who is currently defaming deceased contributor SLRubenstein with anti-Semitic remarks (ref [2]).

Of those, the accurate reporters (ignoring unrelated results) have been: Mathsci 88% Resident Antrhropologist 7% Professor marginalia 5%

Unless the committee is willing to replicate MathSci's work in dealing with anti-semetic racist vandal MikeMikeV, stopping MathSci from dealing with him is equivalent to unbanning him. Instead, ArbCom should commend MathSci for protecting the encyclopedia from racist, anti-Semitic vandals. Hipocrite (talk) 12:22, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Evidence from Captain Occam

Captain Occam (talk · contribs) submitted private evidence by email to the Arbitration Committee on 22 March 2012.  Roger Davies ^talk 08:39, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Evidence presented by {your user name}

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How many of you faggots have been officially diagnosed with autism? Jesus this shit is fucking pathetic.

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