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Article: Beans On Toast (Musician)

Hi

I did actually use sources from thetimesonline.co.uk and also well respected websites on the topic of UK musicians. I added them as references to begin with and was in the process of creating a proper ref. box etc., I refreshed the page to check my editing so far was correct and it had disappeared, all in the space of around 2 minutes. I continue to be accused of making improper articles where as far as I can see I only have made one in protest to these accusations! Threatening to disrupt Wikipedia? Or wishing to keep my name away from a group of people I feel I have been let down by. I am sorry if I caused undue animosity whilst in a state of frustration, however I felt my point had to be made. Thank you, if you could move it I would highly appreciate that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zakistan (talk • contribs) 19:11, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Done; details on your talk page and user page. Stephen! Coming... 16:27, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

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Thanks

..for saving my article from deletion. I bet the guy that suggested deletion didn't have a ship named after him.

You have made a number of recommendations about this article that are all acronyms. COI? AFD? I am happy to make whatever improvements are needed, but I need some guidance.

As an IT professional, I have to say that wikipedia is one very odd place. Invent their own markup language so that editors don't have to learn HTML? Bizarre.

cheers

TD —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tim.daniel (talk • contribs) 20:05, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

LOL! No worries. When if comes to speedy deletion nominations, I am very strict, so any credible assertion will stop it from being deleted that way. There are other ways it can be deleted - PROD (Proposed Deletion) or AFD (Article for deletion). You can read about these here: WP:PROD and WP:AFD. However, the fact that someone decided to name a ship after him should stop anyone from nominating them!
COI stands for Conflict of Interest. You've declared that he was your uncle, which is good. However, a bit of clarification on the talk page as to whether or not you knew him, plus making your sources of information very clear. Ideally, everything should be verifiable by an accessible third party source. So (for example) an unpublished diary that has been handed down to you is arguably a third party source, but it isn't accessible to anyone else.
The other issue of COI is that there is a danger that you might skim over some aspects of his life. I'm not implying that you would (intentionally or otherwise), but there is the danger that someone could perceive that to be the case.
What I'll do is I'll see if there is a wiki project out there where you might be able to recruit help in expanding the article, and who will be able to ensure that the article remains neutral and balanced in tone. Stephen! Coming... 21:53, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
Found a couple of things for you to look at. First of all, have a look at this article: [William R. Caddy]] (one that I picked at random from the category of people killed in WW2). That might give you some ideas as to the lay out of the article. It falls in the project of Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Military, so if you go there and ask for help with the article, hopefully someone will be able to give you assistance. Stephen! Coming... 22:02, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Re. CSD Declined for Hampstead School of English

Greetings StephenBuxton - thanks for the note on my talk page. Fully agree with your criterion. it's just that my professional bias got the better of me and I considered it as a company, not a school! Sorry you were troubled. Cheers! --Technopat (talk) 11:44, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Tau Delta Chi

Sir, I understand Wikipedia's policy and assure you Tau Delta Chi is legitimate. I have much more to add to the page; however, I must now leave for class. This organization was created to support our military members and our paperwork is in process to receive charter from our sheltering institution. Should I need to provide more details to legitimize our page please let me know.

Bjcast (talk) 16:34, 29 June 2010 (UTC) Very respectfully, BM1 Cast, Bobby J Bjcast

There was nothing in the article to suggest that it was notable. I did notice that the date of its creation was today's date, which means that whilst the motives behind the organisation are honourable, it is not eligible for an article here yet. Please have a read of Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not here to tell the world about your noble cause. Stephen! Coming... 20:48, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

unjust deleting

Hi ,

I am Coralyne (journalist for a local french magazine (paris Fashion) and Pr and I have been trying to publish an article about a notable company which has been around for quiet a while now and has been working with notable personalities and companies as Sweet face by Jlo, No mas (the finisher bag), Daniella Kallmeyer (winner of project runway).Aniv Von Borche(notable fashion designer for Scotland fashion week) etc etc Creative Business house constructed its notability based on its unicity: no other company around the world provide the services they do.CBH let the designer be a designer and focuses on the creative part of the business. CBH has also sponsored several kids from developing countries by providing them with an education and sewing skills they would be able to use for the rest of their life. It goes without saying that Creative business house is not a company I am trying to advertise but a company which deserve a wikipedia article because of its notability in United states, in Europe, Asia and Africa.

I look forward for your cooperation and feedback.

Coralyne —Preceding unsigned comment added by Linebuilder (talk • contribs) 17:38, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

First off, the article might not have been intentionally written as an advert, but that was the tone that came across. It was also written, not by you, but by the editor User:EmilyMooreCBH. This lead me to the conclusion that it was indeed written as such (please have a read of the Wiki policy on adverts).
If it was you who wrote the article, then to avoid the risk of being accused of Sock puppetry, you clear up the discrepancy between the two account names.
As the article stands at the moment, I cannot undelete it, and without third party sources to demonstrate that the company is notable (see WP:CORP), it will remain deleted. If you disagree with me, I would suggest you take it to Deletion Review, providing evidence why the company is notable. Others will assess the article and determine whether or not my deletion was correct. Stephen! Coming... 20:58, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

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Indica (New Zealand Band)

I am very disappointed with the fact that struggling musicians can not create their own page on Wikipedia. I guess you could say im an unhappy customer. I don't understand why small bands are not allowed to publish just because they are small and have not had "Publicity" as such. It's like picking on the little guy really. Do you take pleasure in deleting people's pages? I understood that Wikipedia was "THE FREE ENCYCLOPEDIA" not the "STEPHEN BUXTON ENCYCLOPEDIA". All I wanted to do was create a page for my band but no. its not allowed because it's not important enough. Let me just say that's the biggest load of crap iv'e ever heard in my entire life.

Fuck You

The Fish

Your comment touches on a number of issues. First of all, abusive comments like yours are considered personal attacks and if you continue like that, you will be blocked.
Wikipedia is an encyclopedia for notable articles, and your band is not (yet) notable. It might be one day, but until then it has no place on Wikipedia. Have a read of this essay for a full explanation. Stephen! Coming... 09:22, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

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Happy StephenBuxton's Day!

User:StephenBuxton has been identified as an Awesome Wikipedian,
and therefore, I've officially declared today as StephenBuxton's day!
For being such a beautiful person and great Wikipedian,
enjoy being the Star of the day, dear StephenBuxton!

Peace,
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01:14, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

A record of your Day will always be kept here.

For a userbox you can add to your userbox page, see User:Rlevse/Today/Happy Me Day! and my own userpage for a sample of how to use it. — Rlevse • Talk • 01:14, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Aww, shucks! I'm not sure what I did to deserve this, but thanks! Stephen! Coming... 08:56, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Barobax

I put Afd on the Barobax article as you suggested but it has been deleted before with Afd so I marked it with ((db-repost)) , all the best --SPADA 2 ♪♫ (talk) 12:38, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Cheers for letting me know. I have declined the speedy for repost, as the article is significantly different to that which was deleted by discussion. I suspect that the AFD will result in it being deleted though. Stephen! Coming... 12:43, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Platform (TV series)

Thanks for looking at this one. I would have been dubious about these ill-formatted links as reliable sources, even before the websites in question went under. I've prodded it, since nothing remains but links to their own MySpace page. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:05, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

No worries. Stephen! Coming... 23:13, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

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Cheers for that! Stephen! Coming... 09:41, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Rutland Tea Company

Hi I am new to writing on Wikipedia, I was writing the article so that I could add this company to the list of Tea suppliers in the UK, should the list of Tea supplier just be left to the corporate giants? Rutland Tea are selling teas all over the world as well as around its home base.

I think it could be interesting for a customer of Rutland Tea in Australia, Germany, USA etc to be able to look the company up and see where they started, who they are etc.

Please can you tell me the turnover limit to be listed on Wikipedia, if it is not based on turnover please let me know the criteria.

Best regards

Richard —Preceding unsigned comment added by Richardw88 (talk • contribs) 15:48, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

It's not based on turnover, but on notability. Have a read of WP:CORP for the notability requirements for companies. If you know that the company meets the notability requirements, please let me know and I will restore the page so you can add the information.
I do need to ask this question though: Are you connected with the company in any way? If so, I would strongly recommend that you do not write an article about it - please read the policy on Conflict of Interest. However, if you are not connected, then it won't be an issue. Stephen! Coming... 13:00, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

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Help with NZ king Salmon

Can you help me out with my article, NZ king Salmon.

As the majority producer of Farmed King Salmon in the world I beleive they are important enough to have a wiki entry but my article keeps getting deleted and I am positive its un bias enough and dry enough to not be considered advertising. Its just recounting the facts and info, but yet its still getting deleted.

Can you point out where I'm going wrong with it. Perhaps point out the ares I need to refine.

Cheers

RepublikNZ (talk) 23:22, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

I was just about to go to bed, when I saw your message... as we inhabit different time zones, by the time I have had a chance to do a decent response, another day will have passed before you get a chance to read it. So I will suggest that you have a read of this page, and also try and avoid any peacock words. Also, can I just check that you are nothing to do with the company? If you are, then I would urge you not to write the article at all (see Conflict of Interest Policy). If you aren't you may wish to make it clear, as your username could be taken as such (although I accept that New Zealand is a big country, and more than one person there might want to use the letters NZ in their username).
I'll try and give a more in depth reply tomorrow. But in the meantime, my bed is yelling for me. Night! Stephen! Coming... 23:40, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Cheers I will give it a crack.

RepublikNZ (talk) 23:42, 7 July 2010 (UTC). . .


Hi Stephen, I have edited and redacted until all traces of anything potentionaly wrong have been removed from the NZ king Salmon Article. Are you able to have a look and see if it passes muster

Cheers

RepublikNZ (talk) 23:54, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Al Jarreau

I love Al Jarreau! Don't want to be accused of "trolling" the AN board, so I'll respond here (hope it helps). Cite news, Cite web - if you read the pages carefully, you'll know what parameters to use. Ask away if you you need additional guidance - referencing can certainly be confusing. As it is, this article is very poorly referenced: every sentence should ideally have a cite at the end (except in the lead). Cheers, Stephen... :> Doc9871 (talk) 11:43, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Cheers for that. It looks like there is a useful tool (mentioned on the AN page) that will help for those quickie links. I thought it best just to add a very brief link as a starting point; looks like that is the way to go with that tool. As you might have gathered, I'm not a natural editor, so any assistance is always appreciated! Stephen! Coming... 11:48, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
No such thing as a "natural editor" here: roll with it as you learn (always things to learn). Thick skin helps, too. Evolution, my friend... :> Doc9871 (talk) 12:04, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion of GuelphDemoCamp

I'd like to contest this deletion, but can't figure out where to place the tag. The page is new and under construction and should have been marked as such. I'm going to recreate it and add those tags - please let me know if I'm doing this wrong!

Saffyre9 (talk) 20:08, 23 July 2010 (UTC)saffyre9

Creating it in your user area (known as Userfying the article) is a good way of working on it. However, unless you address the notability issue, the article will not be able to be placed in mainspace. Have a read of the notability requirements to see what needs to be done.
But before you do that, are you connected with the company? In which case, you must not write the article, as there would be a clear conflict of interest (COI); see the COI Policy.
If you do move it into the main area without addressing the notability issues, it will be deleted again; if not by me by another administrator. If you disagree with the deletion, the approach to take is Deletion Review.
If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask. Stephen! Coming... 17:16, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

/* http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Knaphill_Athletic_F.C. */

Hi Stephen,

Please can you let me have a copy of the page I created and perhaps some pointers on what I can do to make it more likely to stick around?

Other football clubs in our area have pages and I'd be interested in how ours differs. In fact, a lot of the clubs on the "Formed in 2010" page have almost no information on them!

Cheers,

TheLoafer

Edit: Not sure why but the link above also misses off the last . so the link doesn't go to the correct article :o/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheLoafer (talk • contribs) 10:17, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

I have restored the article and moved it here: User:TheLoafer/Knaphill Athletic F.C.. I will be brutaly honest though, I do not see anything in the article that shows it is notable. Please read the notabilty guidelines to see if there is anything there that applies to your article. Stephen! Coming... 12:00, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

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Page Deleted

hello I am writing to see why the page "Ron Artis Family Band" was deleted. is there something I must verify first?

-Ron Artis II —Preceding unsigned comment added by RA2 (talk • contribs) 04:47, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

The page was deleted because there was there was no indication that it would meet our notabilty guidelines (see WP:NOTABILITY and WP:BAND). Also, it is strongly recommended that you do not write about yourself or groups/organisations/people/etc that you are closely associated with, because of Conflict of Interest (see WP:COI). Stephen! Coming... 09:10, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Deletion of MannaRelief

Hello, I am the Creative Producer at MannaRelief. I did not create the article with the intention of advertising, but merely defining what we do, why we do it and how we do it. Can you please explain which part of the contents represent advertising so I can modify it to meet Wikipedia standards?

Also, we are a non-profit organization. If there is anything specific for charities on Wikipedia, please direct me there.

Thanks in advance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaredhimself (talk • contribs) 17:07, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

If you are the Creative Producer at MannaRelief, then I would strongly urge you not to create that article. This is because you have a conflict of interest (COI) with the article. Please read the COI policy. Stephen! Coming... 17:12, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
You may also wish to read this essay. Stephen! Coming... 17:15, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
Is there anyway to leave the page up with basic information with the statement, "A major contributor to this article appears to have a close connection with its subject. It may require cleanup to comply with Wikipedia's content policies, particularly neutral point of view. Please discuss further on the talk page.", at the top.. as I have noticed in other similar organization articles? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaredhimself (talk • contribs) 17:19, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
The {{coi}} tag will do that. However, I would still strongly discourage you from writing about the charity, as it is very easy to turn it into an advert by using peacock terms. It will also be hard for you to keep a Neutral point of view. Far better to add a request for this article to be made at Requested Articles. Stephen! Coming... 17:25, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
Thank you, Stephen. --Jaredhimself (talk) 17:54, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
No worries. Stephen! Coming... 18:09, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
I have also made the necessary reverts and corrections to the Mannatech article. —Prhartcom (talk) 18:11, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
Cheers Stephen! Coming... 18:15, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Sole Desire

"as an article about a musical recording that does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject, and where the artist's article has never existed or has been deleted". No artist information, and I didn't see anything under WP:GNG about guest musicians. Ironholds (talk) 16:07, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Credible assertion of notability is not as stringent as verifiable notability. To avoid speedy deletion, an article just needs to give a credible assertion, even if it is unreferenced. Have a read of WP:A7 and WP:A9. It almost certainly would be deleted (as it stands) at AFD, but the point is that the article is given a chance to improve. Stephen! Coming... 16:11, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

block of User :Bell1978

His unblock request seems pretty sincere, and he is willing to change his username. I'm thinking of spooling out some rope but checking in with you first as blocking admin. Beeblebrox (talk) 16:18, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for checking. I agree with your assessment, and I've responded on the user's talk page. Stephen! Coming... 16:22, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

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y did u delete my page

everything can b sourced on the brian redban article on his website reban.com that i listed any everything that i said can b verified on his show( joe rogan podcast) so help me please, cuz i dunno what to do to make my page stay online!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nofx4life (talk • contribs) 20:58, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

There was nothing on the page to indicate why he was notable. Have a read of these pages (WP:BIO and WP:WEB) to see if there is anything on there to show why he (or his blog) is notable. If there is anything, please let me know, and I'll see about restoring it. Stephen! Coming... 23:51, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

brian redban is famous from being the co-host of joe rogans podcast. because it is a podcast on the internet, he is not notable?? so if someone is only famous from the internet you cannot make a page about them????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nofx4life (talk • contribs) 07:40, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

There is nothing to stop people from having a Wikipedia article if all they are famous for is for something on the internet (such as a blog or a podcast). However, the person needs to meet the requirements of the notability guidelines. I have had a look to see if there is anything that can show that he should have an article, but I cannot find anything. So I am afraid I won't be restoring the article.
If you disagree, I would suggest you go to the Deletion Review page, and request that the article be restored. If you do make the request, I would suggest you include evidence that he does meet the requirements of the notability guidelines). Stephen! Coming... 08:52, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

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Re: Christmas motto series

Thanks for the reminder, Stephen. My opinion is that it's a great idea. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 16:30, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Have you heard of MessageDeliveryBot? It has a web-based interface where you can submit messages to send to large groups of people, which is less tedious than delivering them yourself.  ℳono  16:33, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks! (and cheers for the bot link - hadn't heard of that one. Stephen! Coming... 13:05, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

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Paper Aeroplanes

Since I'm unable to do the usual AFD routine, being an IP editor, would you start one? The usual DB-BAND reasons apply - no indication of notability, no reliable secondary sources, etc. Thanks! 69.181.249.92 (talk) 13:09, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Done; see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paper Aeroplanes Stephen! Coming... 16:15, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Excellent. Thank you. 69.181.249.92 (talk) 16:21, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Sarah Howells

Can I just PROD it? Based on WP:ENTERTAINER (and the example of [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Liz West (2nd nomination) ]]) it seems pretty clear the article doesn't assert enough notability to meet the criteria; I'd rather not waste everybody's time going through an AFD if it doesn't need to. And you know how I feel about starting AFDs. 69.181.249.92 (talk) 17:14, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Well, I can't claim that I know your feelings about starting AFDs, but I do appreciate that as you have no user account you can't initiate them. If it is unsourced, then PRODBLP would be the way to go. Just remember that articles (like Sarah Howells) that assert notability are not candidates for speedy deletion under A7. Stephen! Coming... 21:39, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
I usually interpret that as "credibly asserts," which can incorporate the specific guidelines for various industries. Sarah, for example, would fall under Entertainer, and there's no credible assertion that she meets that particular set of criteria. And for the record, there is a work-around for IPs at AFD, but it involves a few extra steps that always includes soliciting the assistance of a registered user. I'm sure there are times the regulars at the AFD discussion page get tired of seeing my requests. In any case, thanks! 69.181.249.92 (talk) 01:21, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

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RE: A little bit too speedy...

Hi Stephen. I've left notes with the nominator and the deleter, but if you could restore/userfy it for me I'd be really grateful. (Can an article be restored to the main namespace after userfication?) Tdwright (talk) 12:01, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Someone beat you to it (but thanks for the offer). I've been beavering away this afternoon and I think my article is ready to go. Could you take a look and let me know if it's ready to be moved back to the main namespace? User:Tdwright/Radio Free Brighton Tdwright 14:06, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Done; I've placed my comments here. Stephen! Coming... 16:19, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

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Union (band 2)

Hi,

I'm Courtland Adams from the band Union. Is it possible for you to restore the page or is there something else i need to do to get the page on wiki?

Weareunion (talk) 15:26, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

The article focused on the selecting on a name, and gave no indication of any notability (see WP:BAND). As you are a member of the band, even if your band does meet notability, I would strongly urge you to not create the article as it is a clear conflict of interest (see WP:COI).
If you disagree with my assessment, I would suggest you take it to deletion review for a third party assessment. You will need to present proof of the band's notability. Stephen! Coming... 09:52, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

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Deletion of David Manns

Wondering why subject was deleted so quickly without a chance for legitimate revision.

Thank you, Jack —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.75.255.188 (talk) 15:20, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

There was nothing in there to indicate that he was notable; in fact everything about the article indicated that he wasn't - the main thing being that he had not released any CDs. Have a read of WP:BIO.
The other thing about the article was that there was negative unsourced material in there - parental drug use, disciplinary issues, etc. Wikipedia has a policy of immediate removal of such items (see WP:BLP). Had there been something about the person that was notable, I would have just removed the BLP material. However, as there was nothing worth saving, I deleted it.
If you can show me that he is notable, I will restore some of the page for you. Otherwise, it will have to remain deleted. Alternatively, take it to Deletion Review. Stephen! Coming... 09:22, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Union

Hi, I wish to create a page for the band Union, however i have noticed that the page has previously been deleted. What would i need to do to prevent the page from being deleted immediately?


Musicaltheory (talk) 10:41, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi! I'm assuming you are referring to the article I deleted (Union (band 2), not the existing article Union (band).
For an article to be acceptable for Wikipedia, it needs to meet certain criteria, the main one being that it is of a notable subject. There is a set of notability guidelines that are specific for bands, which you can read here. If you believe that Union are notable, then by all means create the page, ensuring that you state why the band is notable in the article.
At this point I should point out that if you are in anyway connected with the band (other than being a fan) such as a member, publicist or manager, then I would caution against writing the article. This is because it would be classed as a conflict of interest. The full guidelines may be read here.
Assuming that you aren't connected with the band and you do believe it is notable, then go ahead and create the article. If you create it in mainspace, you should be aware that it is given a proper name according to the naming conventions in the Manual of Style - see WP:TITLE. I would also suggest you add the template {{new page}} to the top of the article; this should give you a bit of time to work on it.
An alternative (and a method I would recommend) is to "Userfy" the page. This means that you are not writing the article in the main encyclopedia, but in a page within your user area. This means that you can work on the page at your leisure, and then have it moved to the encyclopedia when it is ready. For instructions as to what to do, read WP:USERFY.
If you have any more questions, please drop me a line. Stephen! Coming... 11:09, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

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Robertson Bullies EP

I disagree. "Two members of notable act" isn't an assertation of notability if the two members don't have their own article. One of the act's other albums was already deleted successfully via A9, so I see no reason why the others can't go too. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 16:18, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

I suspect this is one of those cases where it is borderline/shade of grey/could go either way, depending on who the admin is who reviews the deletion. That and I mis-read the opening sentence (my brain edited out the section of the sentence that stated it was by two of the members, rather than the band as a whole). I would still have declined it for speedy deletion, but on the grounds of marginal notability being asserted, rather than for the reason I gave you. I'm of the school of "give an article a chance" rather than "delete, delete, delete". Anyway, I see that the article has been deleted now, and for A9 as well! LOL! Stephen! Coming... 10:25, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

deletion of India Bull Riders topic

Good Evening Sir,

I created one topic named as India Bull Riders which was deleted by you Sir. Kindly provide me the information about it.

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sorabh.khilery (talk • contribs) 12:57, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

The article was deleted as there was nothing in the article to indicate that it was a notable organisation. Have a read of WP:NOTABLE for an idea of what makes an article notable. If you believe it is, let me know why, and I'll see what I can do. Stephen! Coming... 13:01, 4 November 2010 (UTC)


Sir INDIA BULL RIDER is vintage & royal enfield(oldest working company of motor bikes) bike club....this club has maximum no.s of his on google after companies website. It is worth to update it as I feel it will help people to know more biking easily. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sorabh.khilery (talk • contribs) 14:09, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I cannot see anything that shows that the club is notable. Numbers of hits on Google is not considered an indication of notability. If you disagree and still believe that the article should be created, then I would suggest you take it to Deletion Review. If you do that, please make sure that you show exactly why the club is notable, including some verifiable third party sources. Stephen! Coming... 15:20, 7 November 2010 (UTC)


Good Evening Sir, Sir this is fastest growing club in world and if people will google it the again wikipedia will help people to know it better also apart from this wikipedia is a knowledge base for all such things so am just trying to add some more imp.(might not be much noticable today but in near future def. it will be). So pls help me to get this topic approve. I will be very greatfull to you Thanks in advance :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sorabh.khilery (talk • contribs) 17:31, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

There are a number of issues that mean that the article would probably be deleted very quickly. I'll address them one by one
  1. It is not enough to say that this is the fastest growing club in the world, you need to show that it is. What are your sources? Has it been reported in the press that it is, other than by a press release? Has the Guiness Book of Records declared that it is the fastest growing club? This is the first major obstacle you will need to overcome. Is the club notable according to verifiable third party sources? Have a read of WP:NOTABLE and WP:VERIFY and be honest with yourself - is it really notable?
  2. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. It isn't enough to say that the club will be notable in the future - it has to be notable today, or have been notable in the past. Have a read of WP:CRYSTAL.
  3. Are you a member of the club? If so, then I would strongly urge you not to create the article, even if the club was notable. This is because it would be a conflict of interest. Have a read of Conflict of Interest to get a better understanding.
You could create the article as a userfied page (see WP:USERFY) which would give you chance to work on it before submitting it for approval. However, if you cannot address the points I have stated above, then I would suggest that you save your energy as it would be wasted (sorry!). What I would suggest you do, as you clearly have a love of these bikes, is to help at the Wikipedia:WikiProject Motorcycling. I think you will find that a lot more worthwhile than writing an article for it to be deleted. Stephen! Coming... 09:57, 8 November 2010 (UTC)


Thank You Sir,

for making me clear about the policies of wikipedia. I am happy to interact with you here and to get the knowledge on the process and policies of wikipedia.

Thanks Once again....be in touch because i like to be in touch with wise people. Can I have your email id so that we can talk once a while if you dont mind. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sorabh.khilery (talk • contribs) 06:33, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

No worries, always glad to help. I'd prefer to discuss Wikipedia matters on Wikipedia, be it on my talk page or wherever. However, if you feel that you need to discuss matters privately, if you look on the left of the screen you should find a link that states "Email this user". Click on that, and you can send me an email that way. Stephen! Coming... 08:19, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks can u give me the link to send u and email....as am not able to find it here :( —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sorabh.khilery (talk • contribs) 12:34, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Here it is. Stephen! Coming... 12:53, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

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Regarding Astro Empires

Hi Stephen. If possible, I'd like your assistance on the Astro Empires article. It's being considered for deletion, however this game is quite notorious in Portugal and other countries, and already has an article on the Portuguese Wikipedia here. It's mostly based on interviews of the game creator to major newspapers in Portugal and a review from one of the most notorious gaming websites for Portugal (MyGames), which have their own cable TV shows as well. I believe it has earned its place on the English Wikipedia as well, considering the game is mostly played by American, Canadian and British people. Let me know your thoughts. P.S.: Sorry for not using an account here, but the username I use for the PT Wikipedia is already taken, so I need to have my username changed first. You can find me here. Cheers. --85.240.43.160 (talk) 15:41, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

My apologies, but have been away for a while. It looks like it was deleted for lack of notability - you need to find a lot more sources. If you find more, then let me know, and I'll help you get started. Stephen! Coming... 12:59, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Fairport Harbor, Ohio - Natural Gas Incident

I would appreciate your opinion on the inclusion of a section surrounding a current news event (2011 Natural Gas Incident) in the community of Talk:Fairport_Harbor,_Ohio by editor, User:Mapsax. Both myself and another editor have deleted this section on the grounds that it was not appropriate content for an encyclopedic article.Yunchie (talk) 03:41, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

My apologies for not dealing with this sooner, but I have been away. I'm in the process of reviewing it, and I will post my thoughts on the talk page and (if necessary) carry out appropriate edits on the article. Stephen! Coming... 16:51, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

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Kyung-Jun Kim page

Hi Stephen, You reviewed my CSD on the above article, and I'd like to ask if you can revisit this. Having sorted through the layout I believe the article has been created by the subject as an online CV, and the achievements mentioned are a pretty standard range of activities one finds on a performer's resumé. As I'm quite new (as a registered user, although I've been editing for ages), do feel free to slap me down if I'm out of line! Thanks. TheMagnificentSpider (talk) 13:02, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

You're not out of line, and there is nothing wrong with what you did - you made a good faith judgement, and dealt with it in a manner you saw as appropriate. So for me to slap you down? Naaaa.
On to the matter at hand. I agree, it does look like a resume, but that in itself is not a reason for speedy deletion. For speedy deletion citing lack of notability, the article must not demonstrate any notability at all. If it is asserted (and it need not even be referenced), then the article is not a candidate for speedy deletion. In this case, references were given, and there is assertion of notability through winning national competitions - more than enough to prevent speedy deletion. However, there are still avenues for deletion. The first is WP:PROD, and the second is WP:AFD. With PROD, if he does remove the notice, remember that it isn't like removing a speedy notice. The third option is to improve the article; turn the one-line achievements into paragraphs.
Something else you may wish to consider is (if you think it is the artiste creating it) notifying the conflict of interest people at WP:COI/N.
Hope that helps. Stephen! Coming... 10:47, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

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Re-created 3D-Coat article

Hello. I just re-created an article 3D-Coat which you deleted at some point in the past. I have no particular attachment to this article and don't much care if you want to delete it again, my motive in creating it is that somebody put a direct link to the software's website into Template:3D software, and I thought it would be more useful to have an article noting the software's existence than to just delete the link completely as spam. (The person who did that was one Phil Nolan, who just seems to be a 3D artist rather than somebody personally invested in 3D-Coat, so I don't think it was spam really.) Thought I should mention it, anyway.  Card Zero  (talk) 13:53, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

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Jerome Mackey

I am interested in creating this article. I have found some significant information concerning him. He was a "Tiger Schulman" of his day. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=553&q=Jerome+Mackey+judo&aq=0p&aqi=p-p2g8&aql=f&oq=jerome+ and more http://www.newyorker.com/archive/1959/08/15/1959_08_15_018_TNY_CARDS_000264020 http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=980DE4DF1631F933A25752C0A96F958260

If you could restart the article so I can attain any past information would be very helpful.

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Hello! I saw your editing of the panel game article and would really appreciate it if you could briefly pop into a discussion on the Hollywood Squares article on whether it is a panel game (there are cited descriptions if you're unfamiliar with the show). Here's the discussion. Thank you so much! 76.105.176.44 (talk) 22:43, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

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Iron Lion Firm page

Stephen,

I would like to get the deleted page back so I can add in a link proving notability. BTW, how many references do I need to establish notability?

Thanks!

ILFCruze (talk) 16:10, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Deletion Review is the place to appeal decisions. As for establishing notability, at least 2 independent and reliable sources is usually sufficient to ensure that it is notable. Have a read of the notability page, paying particular note to the organisations and companies section.
However, I do need to remind you that it is not considered a good idea to create an article about a group you are closely involved with. Before you get too involved with writing the article, please read the policy on conflict of interest Stephen! Coming... 22:35, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

how come the Global Institute For Tomorrow page was deleted?

there are lots of company pages on the site, why was this one deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.174.42.198 (talk) 02:03, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

There was nothing to indicate that the company was notable. Have a read of this page for more information. If you are still uncertain after that please feel free to ask]]. Stephen! Coming... 09:09, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

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Abberline band page

Hi,

I was just enquiring as to why you have deleted the abberline band page? It was in early stages, and the information on it was true. I peronally wrote the artile with help from my fellow band memebers.

It there any possibility it could be re-instated so I can continue my work on it?

Many thanks, Ashley Taylor Ashdrummer123 (talk) 09:23, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Hi. I deleted the article because there was nothing in the article to indicate that your band was notable (please read Wikipedia:Notability (music)). If you disagree, then if you can let me know why your band is notable, and I will consider restoring it for you to edit. However, I strongly urge you NOT to create an article about something that you are closely associated with, as this is a conflict of interest. Please read the policy on COI. Stephen! Coming... 09:28, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

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Leah cooper

Hello. I'm obviously not here to dispute your deletion of the above page, but I am curious why it was deleted under G11. The last version I saw could have been deleted under several criteria, but I didn't think it was promoting anything. Or did you think it was promoting immaturity? Anyway, thank you for making WP a slightly more mature place. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to start writing my letter to Santa Claus; I like to send it before the rush. ClaretAsh 09:29, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Did I say G11??? I meant G10 (Attack). Could you please put a request in to your letter to Santa that he sends me a new pair of glasses? Stephen! Coming... 09:46, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
Done ;-) ClaretAsh 09:48, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

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Shayna Ferm

How would I have done that a {db|a10 } ?♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:47, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Not quite sure what you're asking. If you're asking why it was a G10, then it was because (amongst other things) of accusations of being a "daddy f***er" in the opening paragraph. If you're asking how to tag something for speedy as an attack, you need to blank the page, then replace with {{db-g10|blanked=yes}}. Stephen! Coming... 11:38, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

I know why it was a speedy G10 but I wasn't sure how to db it as an attack. db-g10. Right. I did actually initially place {{db-personal attack}} on it and it didn't work. I'm going to redirect this.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:43, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

If you're ever unsure what to use, then you should see WP:CSD for the list of tags. BTW, if you place a tag on someone's page like you did here, please use <nowiki></nowiki> around the text! LOL Stephen! Coming... 11:49, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
I just created that redirect so I didn't envisage it would include your talk page for g10. Sorry about that. I am aware of this. I'll look into CSD now.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:54, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
LOL Don't worry about it - no harm done. Stephen! Coming... 11:59, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
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