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Block of User:Psgm

How come you only blocked them for a day? Every single edit they've made has been vandalism and/or disruptive. Every single one. They should be indeffed, with talk page access removed (since they rant about things there as well) as a vandalism-only account - because that's what they are. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 15:03, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

In my opinion, User:Psgm doesn't seem like a vandal, but instead, at least to me, looks like someone who has strongly held beliefs. Their edits are disruptive, and they have been edit warring, but I do not believe they are editing in bad faith, which I think is a perquisite to indef them at this point. In all likelihood, they will resume their disruption after the edit warring block, and will likely escalate to a long or indef block, but I think we need to go through the motions on this account. If you would like to start a discussion on one of the notice boards about going for a longer block now, feel free, but I'm not inclined to extend it. Monty ₈₄₅ 15:15, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

On the contrary, as their edits are clearly targeting the group they don't like, and are trying to belittle them regularly, I'd say that's textbook bad faith. I'm not going to file an ANI case now; I just hope that when they do resume their disruption, that they get indeffed then. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 15:32, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

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List of incidents/List of violent incidents

Hi Monty,

there was a mistake. "List of incidents .." and "List of violents incidents.." were the wrong names. "List of violent incidents .." is the correct name. Thanks anyway. --Best regards, Keysanger (what?) 07:20, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Overdue closures of FFD debates

Thanks so much for closing some of the old FFD debates at Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2013 May 23. Well done. Only two left, and we'll be caught up through mid-June! (The Redshirt and PatternForce ones are legitimately tough ones to call, and I'm kind of glad I can't do it myself, having voted there already.) All the best, – Quadell ^(talk) 13:51, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

AIV: Thoriq Azka Rahmat

Hi. Just FYI, regarding this case at AIV: The username given was the sockmaster. I should have highlighted the fact that one of the puppets – User:Thoriq Dhiyaan Azka Rahmat – was the account that was currently active (though I did mention the time of the last edit was 7 hours prior). In any case, the SPI case was processed, the socks indefd, and the master blocked for 2 weeks, so problem solved (for now). —[AlanM1(talk)]— 16:41, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

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Munier Raychouni

Could you please re-delete this article. Less than twenty-four hours after your deleting it, the article was recreated by a user who I suspect of being a sockpuppet. The article is not substantively different from the version you deleted, and is still unsourced. Thanks in advance. Sir Sputnik (talk) 02:55, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Deleted it G5, interestingly, there doesn't seem to be a CSD criteria for a recreated BLPPROD with the same problem, I'm not sure what the result would have been if it wasn't a very likely a sock. Monty ₈₄₅ 13:43, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

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I noticed you recently protected the Cash Money Records page for a few days and I do appreciate it. However, the fact that it has been protected nine times since 2010, and earlier this year for a month, just a short while ago. I believe the article warrants a longer protection than just a few days. But, that is just my humble opinion. STATic message me! 03:46, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

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No, you are absolutely wrong I were not involved in any edit war!!--Muj745 (talk) 17:48, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

1 revert 2 reverts 3 reverts of the same content in under 20 minutes. I didn't even count your initial revert, which as there was an ongoing edit war involving other editors, rightfully would count as well. How is that not an edit war? I'm issuing warnings to put a stop to it. Just don't edit to add live scores there again till the dispute is resolved on the talk page, and you will be fine. Monty ₈₄₅ 17:53, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Thank You!

Hello, Thank You for the heads up about three revertings. I didn't know about that rule. Skyblueshaun (talk) 17:48, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Your warning

I have been warned by you that I will be blocked if I dont stop edit warring. I have been live updating this page 2014 FIFA World Cup qualification – CAF Second Round, and even though I have repeatedly asked those that doesnt agree it should be lived updated to post their arguments here, nothing have happened before I get this warning: User talk:Jack Bornholm#September 2013]] Is this fair? As I have stated before I started live updating: "Also see Template:Match in progress. Since consensus have not yet changed this template have not been erased" My comments are to be found on the talkpage Talk:2014 FIFA World Cup qualification – CAF Second Round#Live scoring. I and others have been updating live scores for years to FIFA and UEFA tournaments. Why should Africa be different? We should have the same rights as anyone else. Jack Bornholm (talk) 17:56, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

With very few exceptions, edit warring is not an acceptable solution, even if your right on policy. In this case, there isn't even a clear policy outcome. Your right that the template is still there, but there are also strong WP:NOTNEWS arguments on the other side. I don't personally have an opinion on the underlying matter, other then that the edit warring needs to stop. Monty ₈₄₅ 18:01, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Edit War

If you have proof of me edit warring then go ahead, however as you know full well i have not edit warred so its inappropriate for you to post such a message on my talk page. One edit is not an edit war and is not in use of three revert rule. Inserting live scores is not allowed on this site. Blethering Scot 17:59, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

I'm just trying to stop the edit war from continuing. Certainly you wouldn't get blocked for that one edit, however, as I just got the previous person who had been extensively edit warring to remove live scores from the article to stop, I was trying to stop it from resuming with you in their place. It may seem like mincing words, but while you may not have been edit warring, you did become involved in the edit war by continuing the course of it. Monty ₈₄₅ 18:04, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Whatever.Blethering Scot 18:15, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

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I can confirm receipt of your message via private email and wish to confirm that I DID request deletion of my userpage. Regards, NS. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.155.58.197 (talk) 18:40, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

If you did get the email, then you can do a password recovery on the account, and add a {{db-u1}} tag to the userpage using the recovered account. That would save some time. Monty ₈₄₅ 18:44, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

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This user continues to make unconstructive edits and deletions to BLP and the worst part is that they have a lot of edits to check. Maybe it's time for another time-out? Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:17, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

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		I couldn't find a barnstar that would adequately thank those involved in making the template editor user right RFC a reality, so I created this new one. The Progressive Barnstar recognizes those courageous enough to work towards a vision for change at Wikipedia. Monty845, your countless technical and procedural insights and ongoing support and input during both the drafting and live discussion of this proposal helped facilitate broad acceptance in an area that's caused such division in the past. I consider it a success at this point, no matter what the eventual outcome, and I thank you. equazcion ^(talk) 06:28, 18 Sep 2013 (UTC)

The Alexis Reich move discussion closure

In your explanation of the move closure you stated, "Both sides of the argument have policy based justifications for their positions." I am wondering if that assessment is based on the fact that both sides have claimed policy based justifications and you just assumed that those claims are valid or if you actually checked out those policy based claims. Since you closed the discussion 15 minutes after becoming aware of it, it seems to me unlikely that you did check. But if some editors are misrepresenting what policies actually say then to give the mere mention of a policy weight is not to make a proper assessment of the arguments.

BLP was often mentioned and you said "the BLP arguments are not in favor of moving", but no one in the discussion could quote a single sentence from BLP that supported their position despite repeated requests that they do so. It is easy to say "policy X, Y, and Z all support my view", but when evaluating the arguments someone has to actually check to see if this is correct or else any discussion can be derailed by people randomly dropping an alphabet soup of policy names, regardless of whether or not they speak to the matter. 99.192.89.57 (talk) 16:55, 18 September 2013 (UTC) (=99.192....)

I'd actually been following it since yesterday morning. I didn't close it then as it was new enough that I felt it needed more time to see if it was headed towards a consensus. Be assured, I spent more then 15 minutes looking at it. WP:BLP is a broad policy, and there is plenty in there that could be used to support the don't move side. Editors made specific references to the dignity argument, which is specifically mentioned in the BLP policy. There are varied interpretations on how BLP is supposed to apply in this sort of situation, the arguments made in the RM are definitely one of them. In this context, it is not for me to say whether they are interpreting BLP policy correctly or not, that their arguments are rooted in an interpretation of policy with significant support is enough to not discount them when evaluating the move consensus. Monty ₈₄₅ 17:10, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation. I apologize for my assumption that you only spent 15 minutes on the decision. I based that on noticing how long it was between the formal request being posted on the admin noticeborad and the closure. 99.192.89.57 (talk) 17:31, 18 September 2013 (UTC) (=99.192....)

No problem, I totally understand how you could have come to that interpretation. Monty ₈₄₅ 17:37, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

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Redundant warning?

I'm assuming you overlooked this notification which came before the report was filed, but this was rather unnecessary given that a warning had just been placed on my talk page, which was removed and therefore acknowledged. The edit-warring notification, the edit-warrior noticeboard notification, and then another edit-warring notification is a bit of overkill, especially in the span of only a few minutes. - Aoidh (talk) 04:40, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

I wanted to make sure that you got a full, unambiguous edit warring warning. Though your right, getting reported to the noticeboard does let you know someone thought you were edit warring. If you think my extra warning was overkill, I apologize. My chief concern is only that the edit warring stop. Monty ₈₄₅ 04:46, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

I don't intend to edit war further regarding the tag (I didn't realize it had happened that much until it was pointed out), but it appears that the report was made as an attempt to game the system, as the filer then immediately proceeded to continue to edit war to place the reorder the AfD. Now notifying me of edit-warring clearly demonstrates that they themselves are aware of it, so I can't see any other reason to file an edit warring report and then immediately continue to edit war other than to try to game the system to get their way. - Aoidh (talk) 04:57, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Now the editor is attempting to use that as some kind of badge of shame at the AfD. I've removed it because it's entirely inappropriate and has no purpose at AfD and is disruptive more than anything. - Aoidh (talk) 05:01, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

I agree that had no place in the AfD. I will try to keep an eye on it, though I wont be on much longer tonight. Monty ₈₄₅ 05:03, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Please help. Reverts continue.

Monty, User:Aoidh has reversed my edits (now on the Chakra talk-page) again. Please assist. Relevant links: [[1]], [2], [3]

In dealing with User:Aoidh I may not have been a Saint but I have—as the records will show—made repeated attempts to engage other editors throughout. I invited other editors to offer feed back on the Chakra talk-page both directly on the page and on the pages of the relevant WikiProjects (i.e. WikiProject Linux. WikiProject Free Software, WikiProject Software, WikiProject Computing). While User:Aoidh was composing a submission to WP:AfD, I was adding WP:RfC tags to the talk-page in an attempt to draw in broader community feedback.[4]. Yes I eventually started getting snarky. Yes I've made some quick reverts of reverts. Yes I'm human. But I've tried. I've tried to encourage a collective process in the face of repeated unilateral actions by a single editor.

At this point if you want to just lump it all together and ban both of us (kevjonesin and Aoidh) for a bit, I'll accept that. I can't say that I'd consider it completely fair, but at least it would be pragmatic and allow the current Chakra discussions to proceed unmolested for awhile.

Sincerely,

--Kevjonesin (talk) 07:37, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

This comment seems to sum up why Kevjonesin is continuing to insert this anywhere he can; not because it's relevant to the article, but rather so that "anyone else who finds themselves feeling bullied by you, User:Aoidh, should have documentation of the edit warring complaint readily available so as to avoid future ambibuity as to whether you are aware of WP:3RR." Articles talk pages do not exist so that editors can "document" the behavior of others under the guise of, ironically, "feeling bullied". As I told Kevjonesin multiple times, there are appropriate venues for such concerns (WP:ANI and WP:RFC/U for example), but an article's talk page is not one of them. Continuing to reinsert this irrelevant "notice" on an article's talk page is bordering on harassment, and should not be tolerated. - Aoidh (talk) 11:29, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

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Redundant warning?

I'm assuming you overlooked this notification which came before the report was filed, but this was rather unnecessary given that a warning had just been placed on my talk page, which was removed and therefore acknowledged. The edit-warring notification, the edit-warrior noticeboard notification, and then another edit-warring notification is a bit of overkill, especially in the span of only a few minutes. - Aoidh (talk) 04:40, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

I wanted to make sure that you got a full, unambiguous edit warring warning. Though your right, getting reported to the noticeboard does let you know someone thought you were edit warring. If you think my extra warning was overkill, I apologize. My chief concern is only that the edit warring stop. Monty ₈₄₅ 04:46, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

I don't intend to edit war further regarding the tag (I didn't realize it had happened that much until it was pointed out), but it appears that the report was made as an attempt to game the system, as the filer then immediately proceeded to continue to edit war to place the reorder the AfD. Now notifying me of edit-warring clearly demonstrates that they themselves are aware of it, so I can't see any other reason to file an edit warring report and then immediately continue to edit war other than to try to game the system to get their way. - Aoidh (talk) 04:57, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Now the editor is attempting to use that as some kind of badge of shame at the AfD. I've removed it because it's entirely inappropriate and has no purpose at AfD and is disruptive more than anything. - Aoidh (talk) 05:01, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

I agree that had no place in the AfD. I will try to keep an eye on it, though I wont be on much longer tonight. Monty ₈₄₅ 05:03, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Please help. Reverts continue.

Monty, User:Aoidh has reversed my edits (now on the Chakra talk-page) again. Please assist. Relevant links: [[5]], [6], [7]

In dealing with User:Aoidh I may not have been a Saint but I have—as the records will show—made repeated attempts to engage other editors throughout. I invited other editors to offer feed back on the Chakra talk-page both directly on the page and on the pages of the relevant WikiProjects (i.e. WikiProject Linux. WikiProject Free Software, WikiProject Software, WikiProject Computing). While User:Aoidh was composing a submission to WP:AfD, I was adding WP:RfC tags to the talk-page in an attempt to draw in broader community feedback.[8]. Yes I eventually started getting snarky. Yes I've made some quick reverts of reverts. Yes I'm human. But I've tried. I've tried to encourage a collective process in the face of repeated unilateral actions by a single editor.

At this point if you want to just lump it all together and ban both of us (kevjonesin and Aoidh) for a bit, I'll accept that. I can't say that I'd consider it completely fair, but at least it would be pragmatic and allow the current Chakra discussions to proceed unmolested for awhile.

Sincerely,

--Kevjonesin (talk) 07:37, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

This comment seems to sum up why Kevjonesin is continuing to insert this anywhere he can; not because it's relevant to the article, but rather so that "anyone else who finds themselves feeling bullied by you, User:Aoidh, should have documentation of the edit warring complaint readily available so as to avoid future ambibuity as to whether you are aware of WP:3RR." Articles talk pages do not exist so that editors can "document" the behavior of others under the guise of, ironically, "feeling bullied". As I told Kevjonesin multiple times, there are appropriate venues for such concerns (WP:ANI and WP:RFC/U for example), but an article's talk page is not one of them. Continuing to reinsert this irrelevant "notice" on an article's talk page is bordering on harassment, and should not be tolerated. - Aoidh (talk) 11:29, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

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