User talk:Michael Ruby1
Michael Handler Ruby, you are invited to the Teahouse!
[edit]![]() |
Hi Michael Handler Ruby! Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia. We hope to see you there!
Delivered by HostBot on behalf of the Teahouse hosts 16:10, 29 May 2019 (UTC) |
May 2019
[edit] Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions; however, it appears you may have written a Wikipedia article about yourself. Creating an autobiography is strongly discouraged – please see our guideline on writing autobiographies. If you create such an article, it may be deleted. If what you have done in life is genuinely notable and can be verified according to our policy for articles about living people, someone else will probably create an article about you sooner or later (see Wikipedians with articles). If you wish to add to or change an existing article about yourself, you are welcome to propose the changes by visiting the article's talk page. Please understand that this is an encyclopedia and not a personal web space or social networking site. If your article has already been deleted, please see: Why was the page I created deleted?, and if you feel the deletion was an error, please discuss this with the deleting administrator. Thank you. Cahk (talk) 07:24, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Information.svg/45px-Information.svg.png)
If you are the person represented by this username, please note that the practice of blocking such usernames is to protect you from being impersonated, not to discourage you from editing Wikipedia. You may choose to edit under a new username (see information below), but keep in mind that you are welcome to continue to edit under this username. If you choose to do so, we ask the following:
- Please be willing and able to prove your identity to Wikipedia.
- Please send an email to info-en
wikimedia.org. Be aware that the volunteer response team that handles email is indeed operated entirely by volunteers, and the reply may not be immediate.
If you are not the person represented by this username, you are welcome to choose a new username (see below).
A username should not be promotional, related to a "real-world" group or organization, misleading, offensive, or disruptive. Also, usernames may not end in the word "bot" unless the account is an approved bot account.
You are encouraged to choose a new account name that meets our policy guidelines and create the account yourself. Alternatively, if you have already made edits and you wish to keep your existing contributions under a new name, then you may request a change in username by:
- Adding
{{unblock-un|your new username here}}
below. You should be able to do this even though you are blocked, as you can usually still edit your own talk page. If not, you may wish to contact the blocking administrator by clicking on "Email this user" on their talk page. - At an administrator's discretion, you may be unblocked for 24 hours to file a request.
- Please note that you may only request a name that is not already in use, so please check here for a listing of already taken names. The account is created upon acceptance, thus do not try to create the new account before making the request for a name change. For more information, please see Wikipedia:Changing username.
- Adding
{{unblock|Your reason here}}
below this notice, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 23:25, 30 May 2019 (UTC)Blocked but changed username
[edit]![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0c/Appointment_red.svg/48px-Appointment_red.svg.png)
Michael Ruby1 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I changed my Username to Michael Ruby1 but it's still showing I'm blocked indefinitely can't edit or publish my draft. Kindly please help me to get unblock.
Decline reason:
If you are talking about Draft:Michael Handler Ruby, it seems like you are writing about yourself. As per WP:COI, that's generally inappropriate. Additionally, I don't see any evidence you've proven your identity to wikipedia, as per the instructions above. Yamla (talk) 14:30, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0c/Appointment_red.svg/48px-Appointment_red.svg.png)
Michael Ruby1 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Wikipedia administrators, I am the poet and newspaper editor Michael Ruby. My full name is Michael Handler Ruby. Here is the history of this article about me. Earlier this year, I gave permission to Santanu at webdevliery@gmail.com and to Amit Dey at amitdey2528@gmail.com to create a Wikipedia article about me, and I supplied them with information. Santanu at webdevliery@gmail.com wrote the article about me under the username Michael Handler Ruby. I didn’t pay them to write the article, though I did pay Amit Dey last year to turn my book Memories, Dreams and Inner Voices (Station Hill Press, 2012) into an ebook. After the article was written in May, Wikipedia blocked further editing. We misunderstood the reason for the block, thinking that Wikipedia wanted a change in username. A new username was created, Michael Ruby1, which was connected to my personal email, Michael.Handler.Ruby@gmail.com. I also noticed that there were several problems with the article. First, it should be under the name “Michael Ruby,” not “Michael Handler Ruby,” as my books are under the name Michael Ruby, and Michael Handler Ruby is used for disambigulation purposes. Second, parts of the References section of the article had been done incorrectly. Third, there were several small typos. Santanu's colleague, Amit Dey at amitdey2528@gmail.com, tried to enter the article to make fixes, and that’s when the second block occurred. I understand now that the reason for the blocks was to prevent autobiographies and to authenticate my identity. I don’t believe the present article is an autobiography. It leaves out whole swaths of my life, and it only contains facts about me that would be of interest to readers of Wikipedia. It is entirely designed to fulfill Wikipedia’s goals of being neutral in tone and reliably sourced. As far as authentication is concerned, I am separately writing to info-en@wikimedia.org, as requested, informing them that I am Michael Ruby, who can be reached at this email, Michael.Handler.Ruby@gmail.com. For further authentication, I can be reached at my Wall Street Journal email, Michael.Ruby@wsj.com. If further authentication is needed, I would be happy to provide it. Clearly, a number of mistakes have been made in connection with this article. If you Wikipedia administrators think the article should be withdrawn, I understand and accept it. If you don’t think it should be withdrawn, I would appreciate it if you would unblock the article so that the editors mentioned above can correct it to meet Wikipedia’s standards, or let me know if there’s another way to correct it. Thank you for your consideration, Michael Ruby Michael Ruby1 (talk) 13:40, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Since multiple individuals have access to this account, it is considered compromised. It cannot be unblocked. Yunshui 雲水 13:50, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
Yunshui, this account is OTRS verified as of ticket:2019070410006028. If possible are you able to provide the user with the circumstances under which they might be unblocked, if any. Thank you for your time. TheDragonFire (talk) 17:58, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
- The OTRS ticket confirms that at least separate three people have access to this account, so that pretty much reinforces the issue of a compromised account. We have no way of knowing which of these people is operating the account at any given time, so as per the usual protocol with such accounts, we cannot unblock it. (I would also add that gmail accounts, unless publicly listed on the subject's own official website, do not generally constitute acceptable confirmation of identity on OTRS; anyone can set up a gmail account with whatever name they like.) Yunshui 雲水 18:35, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
- For the record, the verification is not based upon the Gmail address, but certainly this is a mess. Michael, the way forward at this point is probably to create a new account that only you have access to and we'll start this again. TheDragonFire (talk) 16:05, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0c/Appointment_red.svg/48px-Appointment_red.svg.png)
Michael Ruby1 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
To deal with the issue of being "compromised," I requested a new username more than a week ago and I am only accessing this page through my corporate email, michael.ruby@wsj.com, which has been authenticated by Wikipedia. I would like the article to be unblocked so that significant mistakes can be fixed. In the Life and Career section, my book Compulsive Words is incorrectly called Compulsive Word. Most important, the References section is filled with errors. This is how it should read: REFERENCES 1. Mayer, Bernadette. “Thirteen Poems by Bernadette Mayer, Edited by Michael Ruby and Sam Truitt”. Jacket2. 2. “Michael H. Ruby, An Editor, Is Wed To Louisa Wood”. The New York Times. 3. Weber, Bruce. “Sandy Ruby, Co-Founder of Tech Hifi, Dies at 67”. The New York Times. 4. Ruby, Michael. “From Inner Voices Heard Before Sleep”. Drunken Boat. 5. Ruby, Michael. “Fleeting Memories”. Ugly Duckling Presse. 6. “Poet of the Week/Michael Ruby”. Brooklyn Poets. 7. Ruby, Michael. “Fleeting Memories”. Ugly Duckling Presse. 8. “At an Intersection”. Publishers Weekly. 9. McLennan, Rob. “12 or 20 (second series) questions with Michael Ruby”. rob mclennan’s blog. 10. Chiasson, Dan. “Go Poets”. The New York Review of Books. 11. Mayer, Bernadette. “Top Ten”. ARTFORUM. 12. Mayer, Bernadette. “Thirteen Poems by Bernadette Mayer, Edited by Michael Ruby and Sam Truitt”. Jacket2. 13. Handler, Milton C., and Ruby, Michael. “Justice Holmes and the Yearbooks” and “Justice Cardozo, One-Ninth of the Supreme Court”. Yearbook 1988/Supreme Court Historical Society 14. Herfort, David. “Washtenaw County Jail and Other Writings, Edited by Michael Ruby”. WorldCat. 15. Susan J. Ainsworth. “Eli Pearce Dies at 86”. Chemical & Engineering News. 16. “Judith Pearce”. The New York Times. 17. Martin, Douglas. “Jack Germond, Political Reporter of the Old School, Dies at 85”. The New York Times. 18. Chiasson, Dan. “Go Poets”. The New York Review of Books. Thank you for your consideration, Michael Ruby Michael Ruby1 (talk) 01:14, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Procedural decline only. This unblock request has been open for more than two weeks but has not proven sufficiently convincing for any reviewing administrator to take action. You are welcome to request a new block review if you substantially reword your request. Yamla (talk) 13:37, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cf/Appointment_green.svg/48px-Appointment_green.svg.png)
Michael Ruby1 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I have changed both my password and the email associated with my account to michael.ruby@wsj.com, which has been authenticated by Wikimedia as mine. I was told by Martin Urbanec at Wikimedia that if I made those two changes, my account would no longer be compromised. This is what he wrote me: "The only way how to recover an account that was compromised is to change your password (both Wikipedia and email, in case the attacker has access to your email account), log out (which logs out anyone who is currently logged in) and log in again." Now that no one but me can possibly have access to my account and it is no longer compromised, I would appreciate it if an administrator would unblock my account so I can correct the many errors in the Sandbox entry about me, especially in the References section. It seriously misrepresents me to have those errors there. If my fixing those errors violates Wikipedia's policy on autobiography, I would appreciate it if an administrator would suggest how those errors in the Sandbox entry might be corrected. Thank you for your consideration, Michael Ruby Michael Ruby1 (talk) 00:20, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Accept reason:
Per the comments below, I have decided to remove the block. However, I am strongly cautioning you to avoid further conflict of interest issues. Please carefully review and comply with WP:COI, you may also wish to read about how to make formal edit requests. If you make inappropriate COI related edits, you may be reblocked. 331dot (talk) 10:42, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Please ask the person at Wikimedia to participate in this discussion, because unblocking an account identified as compromised is a rare thing indeed. I'm also not sufficiently assured that you won't share access again in the future. Sandbox entries are just that- they are not articles and can only be found by those who know they exist. 331dot (talk) 01:36, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Hi 331dot, I've just procesed a rename request, justified as "uncompromising an acoount". I've declined that request, and explained that password should be changed instead. I also recommended Michael contacting English Wikipedia administrators to deal with this issue. I honestly don't think Michael's account can be considered compromised, that usually means an attacker got unauthorized access to the account. If more than 1 person has access to the acc, but with authorization of whoever registered it, it's WP:SHAREDACCOUNT. Either way, this account is currently blocked because "Username closely resembles another user". I don't see that problem, which means this user should be either unblocked, or reblocked, so the reasoning is truthful. Regards, --Martin Urbanec (talk) 17:45, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
- Yamla, Yunshui, Justlettersandnumbers, I'd appreciate your thoughts on this. 331dot (talk) 17:49, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
- I believe our policies are unclear here. I'd be happy to consider it "unshared" and/or "uncompromised" in this case, if the password was changed. That is, I believe the specifics here mean we should WP:AGF and not treat it like a compromised account. To be clear, though, I read our policies as stating that if multiple people have access to an account, we consider it compromised, I just think our policies aren't crystal clear on the point. Note that this account is currently called Michael Ruby1. I believe they have verified they are who they say they are, via the above OTRS ticket. I don't have OTRS access, though, so I cannot verify this. TL;DNR: If they have verified their identity, I would support an unblock with a strong warning to avoid any further violations of WP:COI. --Yamla (talk) 17:59, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
- As a system administrator, I checked the server logs, and can confirm the password was changed. --Martin Urbanec (talk) 06:23, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
- If Martin's sufficiently confident that this account is no longer shared, I have no problem with that. The massive COI issues are of course another matter, and I'm not sure they have been addressed properly, but I'm happy - as always - for other admins to act as they see fit. Yunshui 雲水 10:38, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) (what I was going to say, now partly redundant) @331dot, Yamla, Martin Urbanec, and Yunshui:, I blocked this account because I could not believe that this semi-literate edit could have been made by an editor of the Wall Street Journal – as indeed it now seems that it was not. I'm in two minds as far as unblocking is concerned: mostly I agree with Yamla, warn and unblock per WP:AGF – I've looked at the OTRS ticket, identity seems to be adequately verified. But AGF aside, I'm left with this concern: if the user has once shared his password to facilitate black-hat paid editing, what stops that happening again? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 10:51, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
- If Martin's sufficiently confident that this account is no longer shared, I have no problem with that. The massive COI issues are of course another matter, and I'm not sure they have been addressed properly, but I'm happy - as always - for other admins to act as they see fit. Yunshui 雲水 10:38, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
- As a system administrator, I checked the server logs, and can confirm the password was changed. --Martin Urbanec (talk) 06:23, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
- I believe our policies are unclear here. I'd be happy to consider it "unshared" and/or "uncompromised" in this case, if the password was changed. That is, I believe the specifics here mean we should WP:AGF and not treat it like a compromised account. To be clear, though, I read our policies as stating that if multiple people have access to an account, we consider it compromised, I just think our policies aren't crystal clear on the point. Note that this account is currently called Michael Ruby1. I believe they have verified they are who they say they are, via the above OTRS ticket. I don't have OTRS access, though, so I cannot verify this. TL;DNR: If they have verified their identity, I would support an unblock with a strong warning to avoid any further violations of WP:COI. --Yamla (talk) 17:59, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
Michael Handler Ruby moved to draftspace
[edit]Since there no appropriate paid-editor disclosure has been made for this page, I have returned it to draft space. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 10:00, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for moving this to drafts, Justlettersandnumbers, where it can be worked on without time pressures. I intend to correct the errors in the draft article myself, always disclosing my COI and always working from my WSJ email, to which no one else has access. Then I plan to ask the Teahouse for advice on ensuring that it meets Wikipedia's standards for sourcing and neutrality. Michael Ruby1 (talk) 00:07, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
/* Michael Handler Ruby draft submitted for review after changes were made */
[edit]Disclosure: I have a COI as the subject of this proposed article. Disclosure: I used editors whom I had paid for a previous project to create the initial version of this article in May 2019. They have had no further involvement with the article since July 2019.
As is documented on the article talk page, I showed that I had sole control of this article in the summer of 2019 by only accessing it from my corporate email at The Wall Street Journal, Michael.Ruby@wsj.com, which no one else has access to. As a result, I was able to get the article unlocked. No one has touched the article since then except for me, accessing it only from Michael.Ruby@wsj.com. The article is no longer a product of paid editors. It is my product.
Since the fall of 2019, I have totally redone the references to conform to Wikipedia standards. I have corrected other errors. I have removed many unsourced facts. And I have added a number of recent publications. I believe that the article as a whole is written in a neutral tone. It is substantially sourced. Most remaining unsourced facts, such as poetry teachers at Harvard and Brown, can be partially authenticated by looking at their biographies. If Wikipedia editors in the Teahouse think such unsourced facts should be removed, I will remove them, but they would make the article more useful to people interested in American poets.
I believe that the article is ready for review and I have now submitted it.
Thank you for your consideration, Michael Ruby Michael Ruby1 (talk) 15:59, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
Your submission at Articles for creation: Michael Handler Ruby has been accepted
[edit]![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/21/AFC-Logo.svg/50px-AFC-Logo.svg.png)
Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Wikipedia! We hope you will continue making quality contributions.
If you have any questions, you are welcome to ask at the help desk. Once you have made at least 10 edits and had an account for at least four days, you will have the option to create articles yourself without posting a request to Articles for creation.
If you would like to help us improve this process, please consider
.Thanks again, and happy editing!
Noah!💬 18:19, 2 March 2021 (UTC)Disclosure: I have a COI as the subject of this article.
Thank you very much for accepting this article for Wikipedia.
I'm wondering if the second template message at the top of the article can now be removed about “undisclosed payments.” Many edits have been made on the article by multiple people, including the administrator and editor who created the template message, if I’m not mistaken. All of those edits seem to amount to the “cleanup to comply with Wikipedia's content policies” that is required for that template message to be removed.
Any advice on how to remove the first template message on "a close connection" would also be appreciated.
Separately, is there any way to change the name at the top of the article simply to Michael Ruby from Michael Handler Ruby? There doesn’t appear to be any other Michael Ruby in Wikipedia and thus a need for disambigulation. Michael Ruby is the name that appears on all poetry book covers and publications.
Thank you for your consideration. Michael Ruby1 (talk) 23:36, 19 March 2021 (UTC)