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Teahouse
Hi! Just wanted to let you know that I responded to your post on the Teahouse!
EGL1234 04:38, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
Replaceable fair use File:Pyotr Glebov.jpeg
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- @Marchjuly: I have added the template and reasoning for disputing fair use; please let me know if I put it in the correct place. Please also let me know if I still haven't met your own listing of criteria I missed, I think I have but I'm not sure. Please also let me know if merely adding critical commentary about the actor's appearance in the film would merit non-free use, as well, as I could merely do that and it might save time (under "no existing equivalence"). For instance, I have now added "The role as Grigori Melekhov was Glebov's breakthrough role and through which he was measured in all subsequent appearances. His hair and cap were an identifiable icon in Soviet cinema" to the caption, instead of merely "Glebov as protagonist." Let me know. Cheers! Knightoften (talk) 13:25, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
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- @Marchjuly: Sounds good. Knightoften (talk) 01:56, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- The template you added seems to have been added properly. An administrator will review the reasons why the file was nominated for deletion and your response explaining why it shouldn't be deleted. The adminstrator will assess the file's non-free use and determine whether it violates relevant policy or whether further discussion is needed. If the administrator feels the file doesn't comply with relevant policy, they will delete the file; if they feel further discussion is needed, they will either start a discussion about the file at WP:FFD themselves or suggest that someone else do so. If the file is deleted and you disagree with administrator's assessment, you can ask the administrator for clarification by posting on their user talk page; if the file is sent to FFD for further discussion, you can explain while the file should be kept and others will also be able comment as well to see whether a WP:CONSENSUS can be reached either way. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:58, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Marchjuly: I have added the template and reasoning for disputing fair use; please let me know if I put it in the correct place. Please also let me know if I still haven't met your own listing of criteria I missed, I think I have but I'm not sure. Please also let me know if merely adding critical commentary about the actor's appearance in the film would merit non-free use, as well, as I could merely do that and it might save time (under "no existing equivalence"). For instance, I have now added "The role as Grigori Melekhov was Glebov's breakthrough role and through which he was measured in all subsequent appearances. His hair and cap were an identifiable icon in Soviet cinema" to the caption, instead of merely "Glebov as protagonist." Let me know. Cheers! Knightoften (talk) 13:25, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
File:Pyotr Glebov.jpeg listed for discussion
A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Pyotr Glebov.jpeg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for discussion. Please see the discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. ƏXPLICIT 00:06, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Explicit: Sounds good, I attached the license explanation page to FDD from the talk page, which was originally below the deletion contest template. Thanks for letting me know! Knightoften (talk) 01:58, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
Orphaned non-free image File:Pyotr Glebov.jpeg
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Following citation formats
Thanks for your recent contribution to the Waffen-SS foreign volunteers and conscripts. Whenever you contribute to a page, you should follow the extant citation format to the best of your ability. If you're unsure how to do that, look carefully at the citations already on the page in the edit mode as they will guide you accordingly. Also, when you add information from books or articles, you need to cite the page number. Otherwise the reference is sort of useless. Incidentally, you also added something from what would be considered a primary source. This is something Wikipedia highly discourages, except under certain conditions. The reason for that is that such contributions are generally considered original research, something not allowed on Wikipedia. Finally, the information you contributed on the Cossacks was a bit ancillary, so I converted it into an informational note. Hopefully, my observations here don't discourage you in any way, as they are meant to be constructive.--Obenritter (talk) 12:52, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Obenritter: My mistake, I only made a cursory glance and didn't see that you were separating citations out. I like the way you incorporated what I wrote into an informational note; I don't mind really, I thought a bit of context on the Cossacks was necessary and after your edit it's still there. As for WP:PRIMARY, "A primary source may be used on Wikipedia only to make straightforward, descriptive statements of facts that can be verified by any educated person with access to the primary source but without further, specialized knowledge...but any interpretation needs a secondary source." Which is why there were two sources. I see that you removed one of them, questioning why it was there. That was the reason. Cheers! Knightoften (talk) 22:55, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
- No worries. Unfortunately, your secondary source had no page number. If you have that, please add it back but follow the page's citation format. BTW -- should you ever have questions with how to use citations on Wikipedia, don't hesitate to ask. --Obenritter (talk) 12:28, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
- Very kind of you!! And I'll see if I can't pull it out. Knightoften (talk) 11:03, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
- No worries. Unfortunately, your secondary source had no page number. If you have that, please add it back but follow the page's citation format. BTW -- should you ever have questions with how to use citations on Wikipedia, don't hesitate to ask. --Obenritter (talk) 12:28, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
Maltese nobility: dubious source
I've no reason to suppose you're acting in poor faith, but the Gauci source you added is deeply suspect. Gauci was the original creator of dozens of dubious articles on purported noble Maltese titles on Wikipedia, among others claiming some for himself, his parents and his family. After a fairly epic business spanning a couple years (and the use of several sockpuppets on his part), he was community banned from Wikipedia, his websites spam-blacklisted, and almost all of his article creations stricken. He has a long history of claiming to be a genealogy/heraldic expert, but as was said in a RfC fifteen years ago, we've only his word for it, and his reaction to being asked for reliable, independent sources for anything was always either "How dare you question me?" or accusations of animus towards the nation of Malta.
More recently, he's unilaterally claimed to be the "Chief Herald of Malta" [1] [2], and has been repudiated by the Committee of Privileges of The Maltese Nobility, the quasi-official body governing such things. When all is said and done, he's just not a trustworthy source. Ravenswing 03:47, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
- Oh :( I was unaware of that. I am but a humble researcher. I was about to dive into my university's proper reference engine; the sources I've cited were only what I could find so far in English, Spanish and Italian in search engine. I see I see. Knightoften (talk) 03:51, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
- No way you could've known; the flap started in 2005, when people first started questioning the legitimacy of the articles, but really blew up in 2006, when the guy's own legitimacy became an issue. Not a problem. Really, when it comes down to it, the whole subject of "Maltese nobility" (for a small island with a modern population smaller than Nashville) doesn't come to a whole lot more than "Yeah, there were some people given nominal titles." One quote from a descendant that was cited in 2006 was along the lines of that he figured the average Maltese didn't give a moment's thought to the ex-aristocracy. Ravenswing 04:20, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
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When I referred to "not in WP voice", I didn't mean it wasn't phrased encyclopedically, although it wasn't - I was saying that we can't have Wikipedia calling the sell-off a "dismemberment". Thank you for fixing that. We just need to be sure that controversial information in a WP:BLP is properly cited. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 03:10, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
- @SarekOfVulcan: Oh! Gotcha, yeah in hindsight that was not the best word to use, but it was the first to jump into mind! Knightoften (talk) 20:27, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
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