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Remarkable how all those simultaneous edits got in without an edit conflict among them. That should end the list from Ceranthor in this installment and you might let him know that the article is ready for the next phase of the read through. ManKnowsInfinity (talk) 18:43, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Would be good to respond on the Peer Review page to show what has been done for each of the points. Keith D (talk) 20:05, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
Second round of updates requests were listed overnight and they should now all be up to date, except for that nbsp request you just made. Possibly he can be pinged to say the article is ready for the next round of edit requests. ManKnowsInfinity (talk) 16:51, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
I have updated review page and marked the ones I have done of third round. A second reviewer had left some new comments on missing references and Indy has tagged the article for sourcing. Have fun, I will be back when I am home with internet connection. Keith D (talk) 11:03, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
Welcome back from the holidays and thanks for your comment on Sarah's talk page. Sarah is again splitting threads and has placed a partial response to you on Hitchcock talk. Now she states in response to editor:Modern her intention to partially continue with the conversion of the biography into a feminist friendly version of it with her further review comments to soon be added, apparently with her plans to drop out of the editing as she has stated her intentions to do so previously. I am supporting your comment to her on her talk page that the version from before the holidays remains the best version of the biography which Wikipedia currently has. The pre-holiday version is by far the better choice for Wikipedia at this time, especially since Sarah has not withdrawn her indication to drop-out of the editing promptly and leaving her partially converted version in its currently poor format. My support is according to your statement to Sarah that the pre-holiday version is the better one for Wikipedia as a whole which ought to be restored. ManKnowsInfinity (talk) 16:34, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

15:27, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Seasons' Greetings

...to you and yours, from the Great White North! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 03:30, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

I would like your input in this discussion

Hi,

I would appreciate it if you could give your input regarding https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Talk:List_of_naval_ship_classes_in_service#Split_this_article_into_multiple_articles Thanks in advance Dragnadh (talk) 21:11, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

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Nomination for merging of Template:Infobox UK school

Template:Infobox UK school has been nominated for merging with Template:Infobox school. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. Steven (Editor) (talk) 19:29, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

The page was locked due to malicious editing but it was locked on an unproven report of his death. I researched and the only source reporting the death is a questionable source — Preceding unsigned comment added by Watershipknl (talkcontribs) 03:22, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

The information on his death was readded, after it was locked, by a regular editor, but has since been removed as a hoax. Keith D (talk) 12:05, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

18:45, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Vandal detected.

Please check the contributions of this IP. Thanks! Pavlos1988 (talk) 20:42, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

They all appear to be to football squad lists, but I do not know if any of the changes are valid or not as I am not familiar with any of the teams that he has made changes to. If you think there is a problem the may be someone at WP:FOOTBALL who is familiar with the teams in question may be able to cast an eye over the changes. Keith D (talk) 21:51, 16 January 2018 (UTC)


If you check it closely, you will notice that this IP is adding to every single squad list the name of a hypothetical player called Bruno Pereira. And based on that, I'm afraid that this person is doing the same thing for a long time, under various IP's!!! Pavlos1988 (talk) 22:10, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

df=y in template Inflation-fn

Hi Keith, I notice that you are setting the parameter df=y in inflation templates. Template:Inflation-fn#Date format shows that this is unnecessary, df is only used when the country is US or CA. For other countries date first is assumed in all cases. Regards, Martin of Sheffield (talk) 09:18, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

The template is obviously not operating correctly then as it is putting month first dates into the reference in day first articles when using UK, which is why I am putting in the |df=y to get the output correct. Keith D (talk) 11:40, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
Fair enough. I assume you'll raise it on the appropriate talk page. Thanks for the reply, Martin of Sheffield (talk) 16:09, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Photograph

Dear Keith,regarding the 'official photograph of Andrea Jenkyns. Could we ask that you please stop uploading it. Andrea asked for it to be removed from the Commons Website, which they did as she didn't like it. It was uploaded before MPs saw the photographs. As her team we keep changing it but it keeps being changed back. If you can advise how to remove it permanently that would be great. Thank you so much. Our email is Andrea.jenkyns.mp@parliament.uk — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.255.233.204 (talk) 13:51, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

We have a gallery of the official photographs, as released by the House of Commons to the media, the images we have for Andrea Jenkyns are here Commons:Category:Andrea Jenkyns. I do not think that "I do not like it" is a valid reason for it been deleted, but if you wish you could try nominating them for deletion on Commons. The image you switched it to was a copyrighted image to Nick Daly so was deleted as we cannot accept images which are not available under a free license. If you supply an appropriate copyright free image to use then that would be appropriate, but the other images would still be available for use on any of our projects. Keith D (talk) 17:10, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

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Templating

Thank you so much for your unsung NHLE templating - It's one of my secret joys! Is there anyway to see how many individual numbers there are on the site? No Swan So Fine (talk) 13:00, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

There are some statistics generated monthly, on each of the templates, a new set should be available later today/tomorrow at a guess. At the start of January there were 9,982 articles using the template with 49,912 actual instances referring to 49,908 different monuments. You can look at these statistics here, though it only gives the actual values if there are less than 50 instances. Keith D (talk) 14:40, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

20:51, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

Indonesian Army cite error

Hi, thanks for fixing the cite error. I just could not figure out what the problem was - the same wording worked on another article. In the end I decided to sleep on it, and was pleasantly surprised to see you'd sorted it out. Much appreciated. Davidelit (Talk) 04:28, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

In the infobox (especially) the links generally should be piped, in the case of Tarraby for example it shouldn't include the status of the district, just its short name. If you look at Beverly Hills, California you can see that Los Angeles County, California is linked through [[Los Angeles County, California|Los Angeles]], see WP:IRE-IRL for another example. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:39, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

The norm for UK is to show the district "City of X" rather than just "X" as that is confusing and not clear. Keith D (talk) 18:43, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
Not generally in infoboxes and how is "City of Carlisle" clearer than "Carlisle" anyway, people will think that it is in the urban settlement. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:14, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
Carlisle is the settlement not the district which is what is been referred to in the infobbox, the 2 should not be confused. The district should be given as City of Carlisle and the settlement be referred to as Carlisle. Keith D (talk) 19:30, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
The district might be refereed to as City of Carlisle when the settlement is also being discussed (as long as it is made clear that it isn't the settlement), in infoboxes it is made clear that it is the district so there is no need to include "City of". Just like ROI is called just "Ireland" in the infobox of Arklow. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:39, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
We need to be clear and we should use what is been referred to not hide it away in an easter-egg link that goes to something that you are not expecting. Both in text and infobox clarity is more important. Keith D (talk) 19:51, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
I don't anyway see how adding the "City of" makes things clearer, if anything it makes things more confusing, I would suggest if anything it is less of an easter-egg link than Los Angeles. The purpose of the link in the infobox is to show the district it is in (Carlisle), not its status (city) anyway. Crouch, Swale (talk) 20:12, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
As said above the district name is "City of Carlisle" it does not indicate it is a city, though it does happen to have city status. Carlisle by itself refers to the settlement not to the district. Keith D (talk) 20:37, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

21:59, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

I was going to have a go at a clean up of his article, but I think I am going to leave it for now until the few other editors stop having a go. Such a shame for him to retire so early from football. There was a little bit of vandalism that you might want to keep your eye on, regards Govvy (talk) 12:48, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for comment, was sad to hear the news this morning. Keith D (talk) 12:51, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Advice for a novice editor

Hello Keith D I am relatively new to wikipedia. In my job as editor of Ibiza's English speaking newspaper I am experienced in writing objectively and concisely - however I have little experience of wikipedia's particular requirements in terms of citations etc. I noticed that you made an amendment to an article I extended and corrected yesterday. I see that you are a level 4 editor. Can I ask, does the fact that you made that one fix to the date field in a citation mean that the rest of my article was broadly speaking OK, or was it just a case that you were drawn to the one error and fixed it without referring to the rest of my article? Regards Nick — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gibbsyns3 (talkcontribs) 15:39, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

Hello, welcome to editing. Unsure which article you are referring to, but I expect it was just the cite error that I was correcting without reading any of the rest of the article. I tend to try and fix new date errors in cites to stop the backlog of 30,000 articles with errors growing. Keith D (talk) 17:54, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

Access-date

Hi. You were kind enough to fix a WML problem I had with Indonesian army recently, and I am having the same problem with a recent edit I made to Tanah Lot. I simply cannot understand what the error is in the access date parameter. Would you be able to have a look and let me know? It's really annoying me, and I've spent ages trying to work it out. This kind of thing makes editing frustrating and makes me want to give up. Is there a bug? Thanks a lot. Davidelit (Talk) 09:06, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

Hi, it looks as though someone else has already fixed the problem. The date you specified is in the future which makes it invalid, it allows one day ahead of UTC to account for time zones but any more than that will trigger an error. Keith D (talk) 10:56, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
Yes - sorry. severe case of brain failure and not seeing the wood for the trees. It's been a tough week. Thanks Davidelit (Talk) 04:38, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

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19:52, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

List of highest selling music artists: Add Drake

List of best-selling music artists

Hey, Sorry to bother you but according to Drake's Wikipedia page he's sold 12 million albums and 74 million singles Worldwide, that's 86 million records, he's supposed to be on this list, thanks Jay el rey (talk) 20:54, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

I think the problem is a reliable source for the information, someone who regularly maintains the article may be able to help with this. The article talk page is probably the best way to achieve this. Keith D (talk) 21:27, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

Very small parishes

Hi Keith, Great work deploying {{NOMIS2011}}, so far as I can tell we have you to thank for the majority of the 282 transclusions it currently has. I presume you didn't notice, but I did create Category:NOMIS2011 citations needing attention to catch missing IDs. Should I mention it in the talk or documentation?

I am aware that the data for some very small parishes was included with nearby larger ones in 2011 and I wondered if you have encountered any. As there isn't anything in the source except the map to explain this, I'm struggling a little to find an acceptable way to reference. I've used a Lancashire-based map to offer verification at Pendleton as it was already in the article and replaced the 2001 census ref with a county-wide one available on wayback machine. Do you have thoughts on this method before I copy it elsewhere (alternative map perhaps), and would you agree that it is better to use the 2001 population in the infobox in these cases?TiB chat 20:26, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

I have completed the East Riding of Yorkshire Civil Parishes, I did have one funny one Cottam, East Riding of Yorkshire where it was previously on the ONS site with a population of 108 but appeared to have no data available for it on Nomis, should be 1170211164. May be they have a slightly different threshold for availability of data. A small parish would be Grindale with a population of 98 in 2001. Unsure where the population is counted so have left with the 2001 figure and the dead ref, though have not tagged it. They do not appear to indicate that the figures include data for other parishes and what those parishes are, may be worth contacting them to point out the problem and see if they have any details that they could add to the reports to cover this situation.
I would put the tracking category details in the documentation, similar to {{infobox school}} which has a "Tracking categories" section.
I am going to publicise the template in the Yorkshire project Newsletter that goes out in the next couple of days, hopefully others will get on board and do some changes. Keith D (talk) 01:51, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
I would expect that in the case of Grindale, and Cottam probably (although I've not encountered that issue yet), a neighbouring parish will have grown by a similar amount, but as I don't know the area, I'm struggling to be much use. Are you aware of a national map that would show parish boundaries?TiB chat 19:28, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
The OS Maps & those on Streetmap give parish boundaries if you get the right scale for them, if you are looking for specific parishes. If you want county level maps we have a set with parishes shown in Commons:Category:Blank maps of counties of England these were derived from the OS data. I have produced a set for the East Riding of Yorkshire, from the blank, with the parish marked which can be seen List of civil parishes in the East Riding of Yorkshire. Keith D (talk) 00:51, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
hmm, I was looking for something I could use as reference like "Wards and parishes map". MARIO. Lancashire County Council. Retrieved 26 February 2018.. However I did find Grindale under Boynton, East Riding of Yorkshire and have edited both articles accordingly. No such luck with Cottam.TiB chat 19:27, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for updating those articles. Sorry I cannot help with the maps such as the one you mentioned. Looks like a couple of other editors have started to use the template since I sent out the Yorkshire newsletter. Keith D (talk) 14:00, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
Since the NOMIS note was put in the newsletter i have started replacing the references in North Yorkshire articles. As for the maps issue. If it is only a reference that is needed to Parish boundaries, then i have used the online county councils ones.Rimmer1993 (talk) 15:57, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Asselby

Hi - I live in Asselby. The pub in Asselby is now called The Black Swan. Check here: https://www.facebook.com/BlackSwanAsselbyPub — Preceding unsigned comment added by Techwork (talkcontribs) 22:39, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

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Sykes Baronets

Dear Keith, I decided to transfer the information about the 5th Baronet to his own page, since I thought it was odd for him to be the only one with a biography on the Sykes Baronets page itself. I see you reverted the edit and I was wondering why. If it was because I didn't transfer any references to the new page, I can make sure they're included; and if it was for another reason, I look forward to finding out why. Thanks. Jcspurrell (talk) 17:40, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

I reverted the edit on the list page so as not to loose the information. This is because another editor had returned the individual page to a redirect. Keith D (talk) 17:45, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, Keith. Understood. Jcspurrell (talk) 17:51, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Please check news refs are OK on both of these Yorkshire-based pages

Please check that new refs on both of these pages are OK

Thanks as always, Ted

17:12, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

19:44, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

Can you please check vthat all refs are OK on this page please - thanks as usual. T. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.33.22.145 (talk) 08:40, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Merseyside

Please stop your disruptive editing of continuously deleting the reference to Merseyside in the entry on Richard Corbett MEP (and anywhere else you are doing it). Southport is part of Merseyside, whether you like it or not. It is reasonable to mention that as well as the fact that it was previously Lancashire. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.237.155.82 (talk) 12:42, 17 March 2018 (UTC)


Please Keith can you remove the thin grey lines of frame from the picture of Countess Manvers on this page to make the photo look more tidy. Just trim the edges if you can please.Thanks as usual. Ted.

Best I can do with a crop - just see part of frame at upper right corner. Keith D (talk) 14:15, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the crop. Can you check this page please - it is separate to the Seacroft page. Thanks again you are very clever and helpful. T. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.33.22.145 (talk) 06:32, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

15:03, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi Keith I have added some more Leeds-oriented stuff - please check that it is OK. Thanks again, T. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.33.22.145 (talk) 11:36, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

I have done a couple if tweaks but there is a problem over ref 32 which you have added a named ref "Rayner21June2013" but not given any details so it causes a reference error. Keith D (talk) 12:08, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks again Keith. Could you please add the term Landed Gentry to the Categories section at the bottom of this page. Thanks T. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.33.22.145 (talk) 03:13, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

We have not got Category:Landed Gentry, the article is already in Category:English gentry families which is probably the best we have at the moment. Keith D (talk) 11:51, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

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