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Mertens

Hi, Gerda. Not feeling too well today, but took a shot at this. Please see two hidden notes I left in the text where I was unsure what was proper. Happy New Year! LilHelpa (talk) 18:00, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Happy New Year! Happy New Article! I have just made a couple of very minor adjustments to the English wording which I hope you will approve. Two questions: 1. It's not quite clear why the ten-year recording programme with Ton Koopman involved concert-tours - some word or fact is missing to explain - were they travelling around rehearsing different works with different groups in various countries and then recording them, or were they simply touring performances of the works as a spin-off from the recording project? 2. When you list the orchestras, you tend to give the names of the orchestras and festivals in germanic or deutsch form. I have added English forms for the Göttingen and Cologne festivals in the external links (Handel often has no umlaut in English) for English readers frightened by German words, but I haven't amended the orchestras because it seems that wikipedia automatically redirects the germanic titles to the anglicized forms. Perhaps 'Salzburg Festival' falls more gratefully on English ears than 'Salzburger Festspiele', 'Leipzig Gewandhaus Orchestra' than 'Gewandhausorchester Leipzig', 'Amsterdam Concertgebouw Orchestra' rather than 'Concertgebouw-orchester' etc: but I leave it to you. Eebahgum (talk) 10:34, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

OK, how's that then? I think the Bach bit makes better sense now. PS I just got hold of an old Oiseau-Lyre vinyl (SOL 290) of the Hummel Septet and Quintet with Melos, namely Adeney/Graeme/Sanders/Hurwitz/Aronowitz/Weil/Beers/Crowson: so naturally I thought of you! On this 1966 stereo pressing they are 'of London' on the sleeve and label. Eebahgum (talk) 10:32, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Anna Bolena

I'm not quite sure how to reference it. Can you remember anything else, such as who conducted it, was a live transmission from an opera house or a radio performance, was it broadcast in a particular series or time-slot which might be identifiable - time of day, etc, - all these things might help someone at the radio station to guide you to the actual day and character of the performance. I suppose it wasn't the WDR 1967 version with Ridderbusch under Erede just being re-broadcast? That was (apparently) in German, with Teresa Zylis-Gara, Vera Little, Gene Ferguson, Karl Ridderbusch, Wolfgang Anheisser, cond. Alberto Erede, recorded Köln 1967. It's on CD being sold from US/NY source 'Operadepot' according to an expired Italian eBay entry. And it's here in an online listing of all Anna Bolenas. Opera Depot Label, OD 10388-2 (2 CD set, issued 2008). Any good? Eebahgum (talk) 16:30, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

That very one! Exactly! Thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:09, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

and apparently they have a sale on for the next two days, a fact I pass over without comment, but send you the link as it is the primary verification for the reissue: [1].

I shall have to let you render it into good German for the wp:de version... I put a note in the Anna Bolena article too. ;-) Eebahgum (talk) 17:39, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm going to steer clear of Foldes for the time being, but do as you wish. I'm sure something simple and clear about Hugh Maguire would be valuable. What about Herbert Downes, or Bernard Shore, or Anthony Pini, or Leonard Cassini, or Alan Loveday, or whomsoever you think needful and deserving! Eebahgum (talk) 21:42, 5 January 2010 (UTC) Arnold Goldsborough also requires someone's attention! Eebahgum (talk) 17:35, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Melos

Done. I'm guessing it might have been to differentiate from Melos Quartet of Stuttgart, founded 1965, whose article we have both twiddled with in the past. Eebahgum (talk) 11:46, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Imbedded interlanguage links

Hi Gerda, I noticed that you added direct links to German Wikipedia pages in articles such as Josef Rheinberger. These links aren't a good idea because they're confusing to new Wikipedia users and those who don't understand German, are impossible to track using the what links here function, and break in mirrors and forks. A red link is a better substitute, even though it might look ugly. A blue link is an even better solution. :-) Graham87 16:36, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Derek Simpson

Hi Gerda,
I'm glad you've got the DYK going for Mertens. I don't bother about such things much myself but it is nice that your efforts are not going unnoticed: and it really does help to get peoples' attention focused on the subject for a day at least, and often some good comes out of that.

I've been adding slightly to the Derek Simpson (cellist) article: I don't know if you can do anything with it? There's more in the obit source but one doesn't want merely to copy... Best wishes, Eebahgum (talk) 15:03, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, adjusted accordingly. Well done for K Mertens Eebahgum (talk) 10:40, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

WIkiprojects.

I don't know whether youa re aware of the existence of WP:Wikiprojects. If not, these are (virtual) places where Wikipedians with interested in developing certain aspects of Wikipedia can discuss issues that affec several articles, makes plans for future work, talk about co-operating on more complex bits of work etc. Judging by your previous contributions, any of WP:Wikiproject Classical Music, WP:CONTEMPM, WP:Wikiproject Opera, WP:Composers might be of interest.--Peter cohen (talk) 13:28, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Klaus Mertens

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Elisabeth von Magnus

Hi, I have noticed that you created the English article about Elisabeth von Magnus. May I draw your attention to this discussion page? Ms von Magnus herself objects against the mentioning of her true age and her parentage, argueing on the basis of her personal rights. German wikipedia has decided to satisfay her wishes. Though the rules of German wikipedia do not apply to its English counterpart, WP:BLP#Privacy of personal information should also be considered. By the way, the year of birth given as 1965 is almost certainly incorrect, see [2]. Cheers --FordPrefect42 (talk) 23:32, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

See also [3]. One can always reference elsewhere without actually stating. Eebahgum (talk) 13:40, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

I remain unconvinced that we should obey her wishes on this. She has performed and recorded with her father as well as other major musicians who are not part of her family. Our article on her father mentions her. And I am goign to include her in Harnoncourt (family).--Peter cohen (talk) 16:28, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

I've now started Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Elisabeth_von_Magnus so that other BLP experts can comment.--Peter cohen (talk) 16:43, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Your tagged articles

Dear Gerda,
The tag was placed by an editor interested in article quality, and the mode of expression, not by one who evaluates the suitability of modern musicians. Don't panic!! It just means you have to improve the opening statement and add a couple more references, preferably 'hard' ones, i.e. from published material in reliable hard-copy sources. These are only stubs after all, and the only point of tagging a stub thus is to request a bit of firming-up. This should satisfy our peripatetic scrutineer. Eebahgum (talk) 14:04, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Your post on my talk page.

No problem. This sort of issue is why I suggested that you consider joining a Wikiproject or two. If something like this happens again, you can always post at WT:WPO or WT:CLASSICAL. I only noticed this going on because your talk page is still on my watch list from last time I posted.

When you've run out of people to write up because of the Bach project, I think that both WP:WAGNER and WP:WPO have list of singers with missing bios. Or you might want to do something completely different for a change.

Thanks on Ridderbusch. I'm planning to get back to him at some point in the medium-term future. I've got a half-written discography which I haven't worked on since this computer played up - I've just got it back from the repairers. The old one I was using is just too slow.--Peter cohen (talk) 21:35, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Johannespassion discography

I suppose no-one bothered to write one? - There's a task for you! I've put the Erato record number for the Stam Purcell recording - that was how it was issued. I think you should put some reference for the collected Bach with Koopman - I know one can find it in the links, but to gratify the tag-placer the first statement in that last paragraph needs a footnote-reference. I.E. don't assume knowledge on the part of the reader! Name the source in whatever terms you think best. Issuing record company name should be adequate. Ditto for Buxtehude. Eebahgum (talk) 23:07, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Bach Cantatas

Hi Gerda, this was discussed relatively recently at the classical music wikiproject. The thread is archived at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Classical_music/Archive_26#Bach_cantatas_-_article_names. I can't see that clear a conclusion to the thread. I suggest that you introduce yourself by creating a new thread at WT:WikiProject Classical music and say you want to get involved in sorting this out. I haven't checked to see whether there are articles on all the cantatas or whether some need to be created. I know that there was a previous attempt to start a baroque music project, so you should find some people interested in working with you. I may look in eventually but I have a few things on the go already.--Peter cohen (talk) 23:23, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Jörg Dürmüller

Hi. I wonder if you could have a look at this article you created. A user is insisting on putting notability tags on it. Thanks. --Kleinzach 16:05, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Toshio Hosokawa

Hello! I saw your comment on Jerome Kohl's talk page about the marked dead link on Toshio Hosokawa. I read somewhere in the WP guidelines that if you find a dead link and can't immediately repair it it's better to mark it rather than remove it altogether for two reasons. Firstly the target might only be temporarily missing — if someone comes along later and finds a marked dead link is in fact not dead they can just remove the tag. Secondly it encourages other editors to repair or replace the link, whereas complete removal might not. I hope this helps to explain why I marked the link as dead. In this case, the link given led to a Japanese 404 error page, but I couldn't find any obvious current home page for Toshio Hosakawa. Best wishes! --Deskford (talk) 08:31, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

I think you are right that we don't need the dead link when there are other working links. In this case the dead link has been dead for over a month and I don't think it's likely to come live again, so I have removed it. --Deskford (talk) 11:02, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

ˈdidǝʁɪk buksdǝˈhuːðǝ/

Dear Gerda:

Actually I transcribed his German name: Dietrich. The right transcription of his Danish name Dieterich would be /ˈdidǝʁɪk/, but are you sure it is not an arcaic form of his German name?

According the Danish phonology, t is only t (actually /tˢ/) at the begining of words. Otherwise, it is pronounced as /d/ (actually /d̥/). D is pronounced as /ð/ between a vowel and /ə/.

I got IPA transcription from Longman Pronunciation Dictionary.

Kind regards,

Hlnodovic 02:46, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Rheingau

Hi Gerda. I think if you have a physical copy of the programme for the first festival that counts as a reliable source in itself. I know that the preference is for English language sources, but if you have a source that demonstrates them to be wrong, then I would use that. If you're really concerned you could provide a footnote explaining the inconsitency. There is also a preference for secondary over primary sources but that really applies to consolidation of research or when the promary source could be self-interested. Under these circumstance I see no problem in what you have.

As far as the performers are concerned you've probably got a big enough list of very starry names. That is unless you plan to create a specific list article of performers by year. If you can fill in the gaps on the composers of the year that would be good. I hope that helps.--Peter cohen (talk) 16:50, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

And Kothner isn't stupid, childish or innocent. Subjective assessments should be referenced to reliable sources and the Fischer-Dieskau article has several subjective assessments.--Peter cohen (talk) 20:40, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Ive gone and done this [4]. My normal computer is in need of repair. I'm using a worn out one at present and have about a days backlog on my watch list to go through. Hes obviously an important enoug singer that someoen may be interested in sorting the article. Otherwise I may get around to it eventually. Grove' will no doubt say soemthing, as will 'Gramophone. (Probably "mannered".)

When Im a bit more on top of things I'll check your article again. On first reading the grammar wsnt wuite right but better than my German woudl be.--Peter cohen (talk) 20:59, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

I've gone and approved the DYK. However I have suggested a rewording of the hook. Ive also copyedited the article. Im not sure what youre getting at with the following

In a way similar to the Schleswig-Holstein Musik Festival, founded in 1986, musical events should add life to the region rich in cultural heritage: In the gothic church of Kiedrich that houses the oldest playable organ in Germany a special "dialect" of Gregorian chant is performed since 1383.

Is that the founding director's view or yours? If the former it needs citation. If yours then its original research.--Peter cohen (talk) 13:12, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Ive had a little copy edit at the above paragraph. As far as Kirchner is concerned, were you saying the text came form the Schott website (and is therefore a copyright violation)? The article claims to be sourced from Grove.--Peter cohen (talk) 23:07, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Ah Okay. Your editing habits seem to be similar to mine. I tried setting my virus scanner to start at midnight and force me off the computer but I normally keep going until Ive looked at all the edits on my watchlist for the day. --Peter cohen (talk) 23:26, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Hagia Sophia seems to be categorised among other things as a former church building. That might be what you want. As for Anna Nolena I think I have to either name all operas or none in a sentence as we shouldn't assume people know even who the Commendatore is. If you're talking about Karl Ridderbusch then I do seem spell things out in some paragraphs and not in others. I think its because at Bayreuth he sang more than one part in some operas. I am confused by your reference to a soprano in Anna Bolena. Looking at the met opera database KR seems only to have sung Wagner there.--Peter cohen (talk) 16:35, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Ah right now I get you. The recording is in the table at User:Peter_cohen/sandbox. I shall have to get back to that when my real computer arrives back. Ive got to prune out the pirate recordings from there. And I also have started cutting and pasting reviews from Gramophone wiht the intention of providing an assessment. ISTR that they prefer his Pogner to his Rocco but will have to continue processing the material. I dont know much about Kurtag myself. The people at the contemporary music project may be interested in getting involved.--19:29, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

outlying centre

Could you identify the author/translator in one of the short histories and ask him what he means? Do the German wiki pages yield any clue? LilHelpa (talk) 21:53, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Kagel, Pinnock etc

I'm afraid that I dont know anything about Kagel. I'm working through my backlog of material. I was out some of yesterday and therefore virtually all of my wikitime was spent on my featured list candidate (Bayreuth canon). I've noticed that Trevor Pinnock is under threat of being delisted as a good artice and therefore my time on other people's articles will be spent on that. BTW I noticed that the Rheingau article mentioned coverage of only three of what were the BBC's four composers of the year last year. Did Purcell - actually my favourite of the four - get any coverage at all or is he really just of interest to the Brits?--Peter cohen (talk) 15:01, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your note. If you look here you'll see that we had a bit of discussion on this. RW never really settled on a term. "Music drama" has become the standard English way to distinguish his opus from traditional opera even though Wagner was dissatisfied with the term. Nowadays new works in the genre are called operas even though most are through-compoased and lack numbers. I think my source on what is weih may be symptomatic of a particular phase of Wagner criticism in the UK at least where they wanted to de-mystify Parsifal and the whole business of not applauding because of the eucharist scene in Act I. It was standard practice to point out that the Grail had pagan origins and that the Erloeser who is referred to in the opera is never named as Christ. Of course Wagner himself initially demanded that Hermann Levi be baptised, so plenty of the mystification was his. Does the German quivalent of "Bayreuth canon" have similar religious overtones to the British expression?--Peter cohen (talk) 19:17, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Looking at http://www.bayreuther-festspiele.de/mitwirkende/14/infos_215.htm and the equivalent page in German "in Bayreuth gespielter Opern Richard Wagners" appears to be the equivalent to "Bayreuth canon". I'm sorry but I blow hot and cold over Britten. I do like Peter Grimes' and the Spring Symphony but not the War Requiem.--Peter cohen (talk) 20:42, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

I've seen some of that production. Covent Garden had started another production which was thought so poor, that they imported this production for the rest of the planned stagings. The first ring I saw in 1976 or 77 was another Friedrich production also at Covent Garden.--Peter cohen (talk) 22:44, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Rheingau Musik Festival

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Death and the Maiden (song)

I wonder if you could help us? See here. Thanks. --Kleinzach 08:53, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Polish Requiem

Salve. :-) One of my favorite operas, that.

I actually sang a bit of the Requiem in college; our choir director had us do the "Agnus Dei" one year. An...interesting experience, to say the least. Well...if you're like me and can't sight-read, anyhow.

By the by, excellent work on the Bach cantatas project. It's always nice to see someone with an interest in classical music editing. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 17:13, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Interesting article. Well worth a DYK. Saving Trevor Pinnock for GA was a long slog but I got there in the end. Creating and expanding ones own material is a lot more rewarding. And I'm glad you appreciate the referral to the wikiproject. Even if you do now get requests to provide translations.--Peter cohen (talk) 14:52, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Dear Gerda,
Thanks for your message. I am pretty tied up just now but grateful to hear how you're getting on. We seem to have 'won' that AfD, which imposes some kind of responsibility to improve it. Meanwhile you are forging ahead with good things. You might glance at the article on Carl Loewe, where someone (who has a username but no userpage) has been posting full lists of compositions onto new companion pages for certain composers (presumably from some sourcebook which they don't name) and deleting a lot of useful information into the bargain. I have posted a link back on the article page to the diff at which the old list is still visible, as I had grouped all the main songs into their cycles and had made a concordance of the Friedlander and Moser editions of Peters, also adding the names of the lyric authors where known. All this has gone out of the window in his/her new list and it needs sorting out somehow. I doubt if my ext link back to the diff is a legitimate WP procedure. The new list is almost worse than useless as one can't easily navigate it. Incidentally, enjoy the characteristic R Wagner quote I added to this article some time ago.... all the best, Eebahgum (talk) 14:29, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Manual of style

Hi Gerda,

In English and according to the Wikipedia Manual of Style, the date may be written the way I had it, which is standard for English. Also, in English, "protestant" is not a religion, it's a category of Christian religions, and therefore, doe not get capitalized as does "Evangelisch" in German. Thanks otherwise for your edits. Marrante (talk) 11:48, 22 February 2010 (UTC) Having now looked up a couple of references to buttress my own sense of the word "protestant," I have found it written both ways. However, since in speech, anglophones normally speak the name of the month first, I do think that that date order makes most sense in writing, as well. Marrante (talk) 11:56, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Actually there is a variation in how dates are written and said. "Remember remember the fifth of November" is a traditional English verse referring to a date but Americans talk about "July the Fourth" and "9/11".--Peter cohen (talk) 14:48, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

True, we say the fifth of November, but the Manual of Style says we are to write 5 November and the little voice in my head goes UGH when I read that. So, I strongly prefer the standard month-day-year format in English. Marrante (talk) 20:10, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Some Americans I know say Fourth of July. I personally prefer day month year without a comma, but don't have strong feelings about it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:07, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Somehow, I've only just come across this comment of yours, so sorry for my late reply. The holiday is always referred to by the Fourth of July as well as July 4th. That's standard for that day, but off the top of my head, I can't think of any other where that's done. Marrante (talk) 20:53, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

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Thanks

Danke fur the edit at my page User:TudorTulok/Music‎, I never thought it can be done that way also, with more brackets and no " | " sign. Have a nice day, and week! --TudorTulok (talk) 22:15, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Further Editing

Gerda - I've moved my comment and subsequent reply to my talk page since that is where you answered. Eusebeus (talk) 08:45, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Bach cantatas template

Hello. As you are renaming Bach cantata articles, don't forget to update the links in Template:Bach cantatas. The link for the current page will only go bold if its not a redirect. Cheers.DavidRF (talk) 20:45, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Hello. Just edit the template and fix the links. Don't worry about all the tricky template-related stuff elsewhere on the template page. The links are pretty easy to fix. For the most part, it looks like you'll just be adding ", BWV ###". The template link cannot be a redirect or it won't turn bold. Thanks. Cheers.DavidRF (talk) 21:16, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Hugh

Dear Gerda, Hi! Excellent work. It would be nice to find the years when he was leader (?wasn't he) of the LSO, (I'll glance through my old Proms programmes for a start), and also to sketch out more fully his relationship to the Aldeburgh Fest and the Britten-Pears school. I feel sure he has an elder official capacity there. He has certainly been closely attached to it for at least 30 years. Let's just hunt around a little further for those facts! They must be out there somewhere... I'm just having a short break from here while the sky falls on my head in various other departments of life... Hope you're thriving, Eebahgum (talk) 13:21, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

• Preserve the history? Whatever next?! If the additions were useful, they will preserve themselves, and if not they will fall by the wayside. My connection with them is extremely unimportant! As I say, it's a bit crazy here at present, but I'll return to Hugh. Thanks for getting him going so well. Have you been to Pro Corda at Leiston? I once excavated at Leiston Abbey for a week, it's a wonderful place, and I've seen King Lear performed in the cloisters. A flash of lightning out at sea appeared above the actors as Lear said 'Break heart, I prithee, break', more Deus ex natura than Deus ex machina. A Premonstratensian house founded by Ranulf de Glanvill, who died at Acre. Eebahgum (talk) 20:26, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

St. John Passion

Good point about moving the St. Matthew Passion details to another place.- can do.--Parkwells (talk) 19:14, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Penderecki

I envy you being at that concert! Best wishes to you, RobertG ♬ talk 17:56, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Thomas Hengelbrock

I can't decide what this phrase means: "In a collaboration with Pina Bausch he conducted Gluck's Orfeo ed Euridice for Paris, in 2005 and again 2008 the Balthasar-Neumann-Chor, Ensemble and the Ballet de l'Opéra de Paris performed it in the Palais Garnier and the ancient Greek theatre in Epidaurus,[3] recorded on DVD." It probably should be split into two sentences? Can you clarify? LilHelpa (talk) 14:36, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

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Project banners

Hi Gerda, just a note to say that opera and classical singers (even when they primarily sing in concert or oratorio) come under WikiProject Opera not the Classical Music project. When starting talk pages for these articles they should be bannered with {{WikiProject Opera}} (not {{Classical}}). Best, Voceditenore (talk) 14:25, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Copied from User talk:Voceditenore: Thanks for your hint. Do you mean that even singers who never sing a line of opera or may even hate it get an opera banner? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:28, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Yes. I know it might sound strange, but project banners aren't a way of categorizing the subject of the article, they're about which project looks after articles of that type. The Classical Music project does look after bios of conductors and classical instrumentalists, although some conductors may be bannered with the Opera Project instead (or in addition) if their careers have been primarily conducting opera. You could ask over at the CM project what they think. But this has been the practice in the past.

I've also copied your reply on my talk page here as I prefer to keep a discussion on a single page. Otherwise, it's very hard to follow. I have your talk page on watch, so reply here. I'll see it. ;-) Best, Voceditenore (talk) 15:04, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for looking after the singers and me! Christian Gerhaher (s.a.) was my most successful one, both content of the DYK and response. More to come, under the Opera banner, of course. I love opera! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:23, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Autoreviewer

Hi Gerda, nice work on Annette Dasch. You've obviously got a grasp of both wp:BLP and wp:notability, so I've taken the liberty of setting the wp:autoreviewer flag on your account. ϢereSpielChequers 19:54, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

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St Matthew Passion recordings

Please see Talk:St Matthew Passion recordings. Thanks. --Kleinzach 02:52, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

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The DYK project (nominate) 16:03, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Maguire

I think that looks fairly good. I don't know how much of real importance is left out, probably lots, but this is a good starting-point. Best wishes (still v busy), Eebahgum (talk) 21:56, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Dieter Dorn

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Materialscientist (talk) 22:47, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Max van Egmond

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Materialscientist (talk) 06:03, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Re this article, you asked:

You asked for a citation - the line is a summary of four of the recordings where the composers, the works and the specific instruments are given. How should I handle that?

If the facts in question can be gained from the printed matter accompanying the recording medium (what was once called the "liner notes"), I'd suggest citing to those. If the statement is sourced in a collection of multiple liner notes, cite them in order of their usefulness. I hope this answers your question. Keep up the good work! --Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 23:15, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Erschallet, ihr Lieder, erklinget, ihr Saiten, BWV 172

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Materialscientist (talk) 18:03, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Andreas Karasiak

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Well done Victuallers (talk) 22:31, 8 April 2010 (UTC)) 20:53, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Kurt Equiluz

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Materialscientist (talk) 09:12, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Heinz Hennig

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Materialscientist (talk) 03:43, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Brahms op 88

Gerda, it never occurred to me that Wikipedia might have pages devoted to individual compositions, such as you have now linked to the Brahms op 88 from the Budapest String Quartet page. Might you care to go through both the HMV and Columbia sections of the BSQ page and continue making more links? It seems a shame to have just this one alone. BTW I've just received a copy of an extensive discography of the Budapest, and plan to start checking for additional entries to make for these. Note I've deliberately linked only the first occurrence of a composer's or performer's name in each section, except where it was pretty widely separated. Milkunderwood (talk) 18:47, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

OK, now I'm breaking my own rule, and linking to a composition: the page on Wolf's Italian Serenade has a considerable amount of discussion, and my source for the BSQ info was totally screwed up which took me a while to puzzle out with both Schwann Opus and WP's page on Wolf; so I figured what the heck and linked it. Milkunderwood (talk) 03:23, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the fixes and the links to my Brahms Quintet page. I was in a bit of a rush and obviously didn't check it properly. Graham87 05:36, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Hugh Maguire (violinist)

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Materialscientist (talk) 05:42, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Claudia Eder

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Calmer Waters 06:04, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Links to quartets on BSQ page

Hi Gerda-- I've left a new comment for you at the bottom of this section on my talk page; please take a look at it--thx. Milkunderwood (talk) 08:18, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Adalbert Kraus

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Materialscientist (talk) 06:02, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Wolfgang Schöne

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Victuallers (talk) 21:44, 15 April 2010 (UTC)) 18:05, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Georg Christoph Biller

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Materialscientist (talk) 06:11, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Gestural Variations

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Materialscientist (talk) 00:04, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Well done ... 25! and more

		The 25 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal
		Music, People, Polish and German ... what a variety of subjects! Seems to me that you are well on your way to your fifty medal so don't stop now. Its my pleasure to say thank you from me and the wiki and to encourage you to continue your good work. Victuallers (talk) 20:54, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Wittener Tage für neue Kammermusik

The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Jakob Stämpfli (bass)

The DYK project (nominate) 08:02, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Sorry

I'm really sorry! I was in a hurry that time and by mistake clicked a wrong revert link. Sorry, please undo. --Extra 999 (Contact ^me + _contribs) 13:02, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

:D --Extra 999 (Contact ^me + _contribs) 13:08, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Kurt Huber (tenor)

Materialscientist (talk) 08:02, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Adele Stolt DYK

I have further replied at this DYK nomination. My concern is the DYK rules requiring that hooks be "interesting to a wide audience", "concise", "short, punchy, catchy", and "likely to draw in a wide variety of readers". To that end I really feel it's necessary to minimise or to explain the large amount of German language and musical jargon included in the hook so that a casual, uninitiated English-language reader can easily understand the significance and subject matter of the hook. - DustFormsWords (talk) 06:51, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Fritz Werner

The DYK project (nominate) 06:03, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Adele Stolte

Thanks for the article Victuallers (talk) 06:02, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Dorothee Mields

The DYK project (nominate) 12:02, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Categories for Harry van der Kamp

Hi, whenever I'm looking for a category, I type in the search box appropriate words like "Category:German professor university" and look under the search results to see if any category relates to it. Perhaps you want to add Category:Dutch opera singers or Category:People from Amsterdam (if that's correct). Yoninah (talk) 12:06, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Citation templates

Hi, I see you're very busy creating new articles! I think you should read Wikipedia:Citation templates#Examples and start using the template when you put in your references. Please see how I inputted the template on the Franz Kelch page:[5]. Yoninah (talk) 16:45, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

You catch on fast! You did a great job filling in the fields in the citation template for the references in Ingeborg Reichelt. If there's no date on the webpage (e.g. the copyright date at the bottom of the page), you don't have to put in that field at all. If you're quoting an article, you should put in the last and first names of the author; if there's no author, you can leave out that field, too. The publisher's name seems to be more flexible. If it has a Wikipedia page, I would write: publisher=Bantam Books. Alternately, you could write: publisher=www.opera.com. I'm not sure that you have to provide a translation for the title; just write the title itself. Best, Yoninah (talk) 23:04, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Harry van der Kamp

The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Franz Kelch

The DYK project (nominate) 06:03, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Re: DYK

Hello, that is a good idea, but I don't think there is any other article I can create about the Newtown-Stephensburg Historic District. I can, however, work on the current article. I am currently working on getting a related article to GA status, so that is taking up most of my time. Once I get that one to GA (should be soon), I will turn my attention to the Newtown-Stephensburg Historic District article and get that up to 5x and then renominate it as 5x expanded, this time on time and not more than 30 days after the fact. :) Thanks for your help though. Take Care...NeutralHomer • Talk • 21:34, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Ludger Rémy

— Rlevse • Talk • 00:03, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Your message

Dear Gerda, Thanks for your message. It's so much easier once an article is up and running, one can shoe-horn in the new information as it comes to hand. I had forgotten about my collection of concert programmes (actually, someone else's collection that I inherited, going back to the late 'forties) and now I can start to make raids on them for useful tidbits! Hope you're in good sorts, Eebahgum (talk) 17:29, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Ingeborg Reichelt

Materialscientist (talk) 18:02, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Andreas Schmidt (baritone)

Courcelles (talk) 00:02, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Jan Kobow

Courcelles (talk) 12:02, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

You are now a Reviewer

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DYK for Edith Selig

— Rlevse • Talk • 18:03, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Barnstar of High Culture
		For your hard work in creating articles on classical music and musicians. Carry on the good work! BencherliteTalk 00:00, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

La petite bande

The article did not provide independent verifiable sources that it met the notability guidelines, theonly reference was to their own website. Spammy claims like All its members are internationally renowned specialists... the success of the recordings was such... also need to be removed or verified with in-line citations to reliable independent sources Jimfbleak - talk to me? 05:48, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

deleted text:

La Petite Bande is a Belgium orchestra based in Leuven. The orchestra was founded in 1972 by Sigiswald Kuijken at the request of the record company Deutsche Harmonia Mundi in order to record Lully's "Le Bourgeois Gentilhomme", under the direction of Gustav Leonhardt.

The orchestra takes its name and constitution from Lully's own orchestra at the court of Louis XIV.All its members are internationally renowned specialists in the early music field. Although originally La Petite Bande was not meant to become a permanent orchestra, the success of the recordings was such that they began to give concerts regularly.

External links — La Petite Bande website

Jimfbleak - talk to me? 10:11, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

• Hi Gerda. I made you one (with plenty of "in-line citations to reliable independent sources"): La Petite Bande. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 21:11, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Siri Thornhill

— Rlevse • Talk • 06:04, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Gerda kaum zu (s)toppen

Schade das es mit Idstein nicht geklappt hat. Vielleicht ein anderes mal.--Symposiarch (talk) 20:19, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Metropolitan Museum of Art Roof Garden

Yes, it is a wonderful place. This summer's exhibit Big Bambú is fun because you get to climb about 8 metres above the roof level. I love pretty much everything by Calatrava, and someday I hope to see the Auditorio de Tenerife in person.AMuseo (talk) 21:28, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Ursula Buckel

NW (Talk) 06:01, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Wer nur den lieben Gott läßt walten, BWV 93

Courcelles (talk) 06:02, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Ensemble amarcord

The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Julia Hamari

The DYK project (nominate) 06:03, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Re: Michel Bellavance

I actually didn't see the discussion on the talk page; I removed the PROD tag because the stated reason for deletion was no longer valid. If the various claims in the article can't be cited, they should be removed, but that's an entirely different issue than proposed deletion. Since the article now has references, any questions about its existence/notability are probably better handled at AfD that through proposed deletion anyway. TheCatalyst31 ^{Reaction•Creation} 01:08, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Camilla Tilling

The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht, BWV 134a

— Rlevse • Talk • 12:02, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Cantata references and BWV re-directs

Good evening Gerda A,
Thank you for your message. BWV # redirects now added for BWV 49 and BWV 79. Yep, when I added started Du sollt Gott, deinen Herren, lieben, BWV 77, I was really puzzled by why I couldn't find a template-y way for adding refs. And now I know. Thank you so much!
--Shirt58 (talk) 12:00, 18 July 2010 (UTC) who is currently listening to Sehet, wir gehn hinauf gen Jerusalem, BWV 159

DYK for Ärgre dich, o Seele, nicht, BWV 186

— Rlevse • Talk • 18:04, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Requiem (Reger)

— Rlevse • Talk • 00:02, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

St Matthew Passion

At the time I set up the regex to change that link, last year, St Matthew Passion was a disambig page. I didn't know that it had since been moved to point to the Bach version. I'll remove my regex so this won't happen again, but there's no benefit to going back and reversing those changes. Colonies Chris (talk) 07:48, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Patrick Van Goethem

-- Cirt (talk) 12:03, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

The hornist

Thanks for your encouraging comments and for your improvements to the article about Marie Luise Neunecker (only my second attempt at creating an article). I will add a discography table with internal links to make the article more substantial. Once that is done, I would be honoured if you would nominate if for DYK, especially since I have no idea how to do this :). I am relatively new to Wikipedia and still have a lot to learn. Musical greetings. Francesco Malipiero (talk) 17:06, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

50 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal

		The 50 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal
		Congratulations are in order—you have reached the milestone of 50 "Did you know?" articles, ones that you created or expanded, appearing on Wikipedia's Main page. Your articles, primarily musical biographies and musical topics, with a focus on Germany and Poland, are a great asset to the encyclopedia. Fine work! Binksternet (talk) 14:26, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

• very impressive, my congratulations too!!!--Symposiarch (talk) 20:19, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Nordwestdeutsche Philharmonie

I just read your article. You might want to add this link to the refs for the recording of the Reinecke piano concertos (which happens to be in my CD collection); it links to the official website of the company that produced the recording, and it contains some soundbites which I always find interesting. Regards. Francesco Malipiero (talk) 15:40, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, replaced, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:54, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Now you got me browsing through my CD collection! To assist with the notability of the subject, you might consider adding their recording of Korngold's orchestral works (link here), recorded 1988-90. After all, Korngold (deservedly so or not, history in the long term will be the judge of that) is better known to the world at large (mostly because of his Hollywood film scores I must admit) than Reinecke. Regards. Francesco Malipiero (talk) 16:37, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Marcus Ullmann

The DYK project (nominate) 18:03, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Erforsche mich, Gott, und erfahre mein Herz, BWV 136

The DYK project (nominate) 12:02, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Ignace Michiels

You can find an (almost) complete English translation of the Dutch WP article here. Feel free to copy the text completely and then use whatever parts of it you think appropriate to create an article in English WP. I am afraid a lot of the statements are too generalised (and unsourced) to be up to WP standards. Francesco Malipiero (talk) 23:02, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Marie Luise Neunecker

The DYK project (nominate) 12:03, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for RIAS Kammerchor

The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Was frag ich nach der Welt, BWV 94

— Rlevse • Talk • 18:04, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Nordwestdeutsche Philharmonie

— Rlevse • Talk • 00:03, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

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DYK Query about Walter Fink

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DYK for Celtic Voices and Hale Bopp

— Rlevse • Talk • 06:02, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Herr, deine Augen sehen nach dem Glauben, BWV 102

— Rlevse • Talk • 12:02, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Re:Opera House

Sure, I'll put it on my to do list. I also recently created one on the Kiel Opera House.4meter4 (talk) 19:50, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

As promised, here is an article on Theater Dortmund. This is really an article about the organization and not the opera house in Dortmund.4meter4 (talk) 01:54, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

You are welcome. I pretty much just summarised the content from the German wiki article. Perhaps my understanding of the 2nd theatre's current use was in error. I had 3 years of German in college but I do make errors that a native speaker wouldn't. Feel free to make any changes to images/text. Hopefully the article will grow and we'll have room for more images later. Cheers.4meter4 (talk) 06:04, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Just letting you know there is now an article on the Dortmund Opera House.4meter4 (talk) 05:59, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the great article on the Dortmunder Philharmoniker and for nominating June Card. I am currently recovering from surgery so sorry my responses have been slow. Pain meds kind of knock me in and out of periods of sleep.4meter4 (talk) 04:15, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Wilhelm Schüchter

— Rlevse • Talk • 00:03, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Wie schön leuchtet der Morgenstern

— Rlevse • Talk • 06:02, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Joseph Ryelandt: format of translations

Dear Mrs. Arendt,

Thanks for adding the link to cantata; that is a real improvement.

But your replacement of my single quotes by round brackets around the English translations of the Dutch titles puzzles me, for three reasons.

One, I don’t think Wikipedia prescribes a particular format for translations. I consulted the index of John Broughton’s Wikipedia: The Missing Manual, and that has neither the word translation nor foreign language. So I see no need for your change.

Two, I notice a variety of formats are actually used. Besides the one I had and the one you would have me use, I noticed, e.g.:

• Original in italics; translation roman between brackets and double straight quotes, as in the article on Robert Schumann: Neue Zeitschrift für Musik ("New Journal for Music")
• Original roman between double straight quotes; translation roman between brackets, as in the article on Franz Schubert: "Der Leiermann" (The Hurdy-Gurdy Man)
• Original in italics; translation between brackets and in italics, as in the article on Die Entführung aus dem Serail: Die Entführung aus dem Serail (K. 384; The Abduction from the Seraglio; also known as Il Seraglio)
• Original in italics; the translation, announced as such, roman between double straight quotes, as in the article on Die schöne Müllerin: Die schöne Müllerin, ein Zyklus von Liedern, gedichtet von Wilhelm Müller, which means, "The lovely maid of the mill, a song cycle to poems by Wilhelm Müller"

And likely there will be more. If anyone wants to achieve uniformity in this, he or she will have his or her work cut out!

Three, the main reason why I am puzzled, the format I used [original in italics, translation between single (curly) quotes] is the one prescribed in the Language Style Sheet (available here) of the Linguistic Society of America, which is followed widely by linguists writing in English; cf. The Chicago Manual of Style. If there is one group of people who should know how to deal with translations, it’s linguists. At least, that’s what I thought and think, and that’s why I chose this format. Unless I am given a very good reason to discontinue this practice, I intend to stick to it. Polla ta deina (talk) 10:14, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

There is no universal consensus or usage in this matter on Wikipedia. However, based on my reading of WP:MOSQUOTE (and, to some degree, of WP:MOSTITLE), I agree with Gerda's changes. For a start, Wikipedia discourages typographical quotes and reserves single quotation marks for quotes inside quotations; that made the usage in this version of Joseph Ryelandt doubly non-conforming. Second, the string Christus Rex ‘Christ the King’ looks to me rather awkward; it is not obvious what the proper title is or what the function of those two differently styled terms is.

There is a clear guideline how titles should be styled – quotation marks or italics (WP:MOSTITLE) – and it is widely observed. In my opinion, the English translation of such titles should observe the same style and should be enclosed in parentheses; the fact that it is an English translation need not be indicated as that is obvious. I know that this is not the prevalent usage in synopses of operas when aria names in foreign languages are italicised where they should be enclosed in quotation marks; I presume this is so because foreign language phrases are indeed to be italicised – this is a conflict in the guidelines which is difficult to resolve.

In summary: the articles from the Wikipedia Manual of Style quoted above give some guidance, but there is no universal rule, but consistency within an article is obviously desirable, as is consistency within a group of articles of a similar field. Also, Wikipedia does not follow one or any other recognised Manual of Style, it makes up its own by discussion and consensus. In my opinion, which doesn't of course count for much and which I have changed in the past and may change again, Gerda's modifications were improvements. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 12:23, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Dear Mrs. Arendt,

After reading Mr. Bednarek's answer, I was glad I did not revert your changes, though you clearly indicated you would not have minded. But the purpose of my question was not so much to protest your changes as to find out what Wikipedia's policy with regard to translations is. In future I'll take his advice, and follow your way of indicating translations.

As for your request to replace "here and here" with something more informative, I did not think that would be useful. The first "here" directs you to Ryelandt's work list on the website of CeBeDeM. Explaining what CeBeDeM is in an article on one Belgian composer, Ryelandt, seems inappropriate; besides, on its website CeBeDeM explains, in English, what it is. The work list itself is in English; that being the case, I did not think it necessary to mention this in the English Wikipedia. (Of course it might be a good idea to have a Wikipedia article on CeBeDeM in the English Wikipedia, but I don't feel competent to write that, and neither the French nor the Dutch Wikipedia have one I could translate.) The second "here" directs you to Ryelandt's work list in the Dutch Wikipedia. Explaining that that is in Dutch would be a bit thick, wouldn't it?

Thanks for adding Ryelandt to the cantata article. Unfortunately Le chant de la Pauvreté, op. 92 is not a secular but a religious cantata, for the poverty that is its subject is the poverty of the "Poverello", i.e. St-Francis of Assisi. The text is by Ryelandt himself. In the table of Ryelandt's compositions, there is no author's name; the list of "Compositions according to genre" names Johannes Jørgensen as the author of the text, but this famous biographer of St Francis is the dedicatee of the work. If I can—I have never worked with tables yet—I'll correct this mistake. (I am amazed that there is no article on Jørgensen in the English Wikipedia. There is a short article on Jørgensen in the German Wikipedia, and much longer ones in the Scandinavian Wikipedias.) — If you want to name another of Ryelandt's cantatas, I'd recommend Stabat Mater, op. 104, for three reasons: one, it is set to a famous text; two, Ryelandt considered it one of his best ("Je crois que c'est une de mes meilleures réussites", he writes in his Notices, p. 18); three, it has been performed a number of times.

I'd love to expand the article on St. Salvator's Cathedral, but I am not competent to do so. I'd have to pay a visit to a library or to Bruges itself to find documentation and to study that, and I am afraid I am up to my ears in work about music. You will find references in the much longer article on the Sint-Salvatorskathedraal in the Dutch Wikipedia, but I am afraid they are all in Dutch. However, while you are in Bruges I am sure you can find English- or German-language brochures in and/or around the cathedral, in bookshops and in the tourist office.

I found out in which choir you are singing and when your concert will be, but I won't publish that on your talk page. I mention it only to express my regret that I can't be there, since I'll be abroad on your day. I wish you and your choir and fine trip to Bruges and a performance with lots of "Musizierfreude" for yourselves and the audience.

Best wishes, -- Polla ta deina (talk) 10:26, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Die Gezeichneten

The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Theater Regensburg

Here is another article for you on a German opera/theatre company. Any improvements (including incoming links) would be helpful.

Sorry it has taken me a while to get back to you on other topics. I don't do DYK noms, but feel free to nom Else Gentner-Fischer for me. I will try and link the opera house you suggested. I will also attempt to sort out the Tonhalle Zürich issue sometime in the next week. Cheers.4meter4 (talk) 00:25, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

No problem. I appriciate the offer though. Any thoughts on Theatre Regensburg?4meter4 (talk) 05:43, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Good catch. Thanks for the help. Love the fact you are working on the Bach Cantatas. Maybe you could tackle Tritt auf die Glaubensbahn, BWV 152 soon in honour of Peter Sliker's recent death. :-)4meter4 (talk) 06:05, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Siehe zu, daß deine Gottesfurcht nicht Heuchelei sei, BWV 179

Courcelles 18:03, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Walter Fink

The DYK project (nominate) 12:02, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Theater Dortmund

The DYK project (nominate) 06:02, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Lobe den Herrn, meine Seele, BWV 69a

— Rlevse • Talk • 12:02, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Jules Van Nuffel

First of all, I must correct myself. The Lemmens instituut was originally in Mechelen (founded 1879), but moved to Leuven in 1968, where in 1995 it became part of the "Hogeschool voor Wetenschap & Kunst". So at the time Van Nuffel headed the institute it was actually located in Mechelen. Sorry for that.

About the name: Jules was his given name. I suppose Julius was the name he used in his official capacity as a priest. In this thesis there are many references to literature about him, and he is always referred to as Jules Van Nuffel (for example in the title of a biography his brother Eugeen wrote about him).

One more small thing: I am not from Holland, but from Belgium (Flanders to be precise), but the official language in Flanders is Dutch (like in Holland, only we sound a little different :-). --Francesco Malipiero (talk) 15:09, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

This alphabetical list of Belgian composers from Dutch Wikipedia might shed some light on the other aspect of the issue: all names starting with "Van" or "van" are listed under the letter V, which I think supports what I said about the "Van" being an integral part of a surname in Dutch.--Francesco Malipiero (talk) 16:30, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi again

Hi Gerda, If you're seeing my name a lot on your DYK nominations, it's because I like reviewing your articles! I went ahead and formatted most of the references on Günter Reich so it wouldn't be held up in DYK. But in general, I like your writing and organization of the material. Keep up the good work! Yoninah (talk) 21:05, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

These are templates, so you can only use the keywords that the template gives you. If it's a "cite web" template, then you write "date". If it's a "cite book" template, then you write "year". Then you just write in whatever it says on the website, be it a whole date or just a year. Yoninah (talk) 21:59, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Yoninah, I think you are mistaken and Gerda's point on your talk page is correct; see Template:Cite web. I also recommend reading WP:OVERLINK; it seems unnecessary to link Israelis and Germans in an article about an opera baritone. All the best, Michael Bednarek (talk) 03:41, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Frankfurt Opera

I agree with your comments, and have reverted accordingly. Regards. --Francesco Malipiero (talk) 22:49, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for June Card

The DYK project (nominate) 06:03, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Günter Reich

The DYK project (nominate) 12:02, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Opernhaus Dortmund

The DYK project (nominate) 06:03, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Cathedral organ St.Salvator Brugge

I have added a section header "Het orgel" to the article about the cathedral, with a reference to the article about the organ. A bit too technical for me to translate this Dutch article in English though. Regards. --Francesco Malipiero (talk) 18:15, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Dortmunder Philharmoniker

The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Ignace Michiels

— Rlevse • Talk • 12:02, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Ihr, die ihr euch von Christo nennet, BWV 164

— Rlevse • Talk • 12:03, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Some possible DYK articles

Here are some articles I've recently created that might be good for DYK: Ada Adini, Agustarello Affré, Alexandru Agache, Domenico Annibali, Adelaide Borghi-Mamo, Prosper Dérivis, Shirlee Emmons, Erminia Frezzolini, Adelaide Malanotte, and Antonio Selva.4meter4 (talk) 11:06, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm not quite myself yet. Had an appendectomy. But I have my lap top and am sitting around all day and wikipedia is a nice distraction. Still taking codine for the pain, but hopefully I'll be off that soon. Nice 25th birthday present. :-)4meter4 (talk) 12:08, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

It's on page 3 of the The Grove book of opera singers By Laura Williams Macy. If you are having trouble try searching for his name within the book in the search tool on the left. I personally think either theatre would make a good hook. Thanks for your help and interest. :-)4meter4 (talk) 07:51, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

No problem. And thanks for your excellent work! I was only thinking you would nominate one or two of my suggestions. lol Any help you give is greatly appriciated. I'll try and follow the suggestions you made on my talk page. I have subscription access to archived articles at the New York TImes (well only 100 articles a month); so that's how I know about the Emmons performance. However, the article isn't opening up right now for me to double check which Mozart Mass... Regaurdless I used the Obie Award for Mother to nominate Emmons myself. I've e-mailed the NYT to alert them to the problem. Either hook for Prosper Dérivis sounds good to me. Enjoy your trip!4meter4 (talk) 11:33, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for In convertendo Dominus

— Rlevse • Talk • 12:03, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Re: Gerlinde Sämann

Hi Gerda, sounds great! I've done a bit of copyediting, and I've added an unexpected interwiki link. I wonder if you can find more details about her blindness? Like if she's totally blind or has a bit of vision, whether she was born blind, how she learns the music (using braille music and/or recordings, I'd imagine), etc. I know of two blind sopranos who will probably be notable enough to have Wikipedia articles some day, so her field of work is certainly possible! Graham87 11:47, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

I can make sense of most of this Babelfish translation of the interview, except where it says “In such a way at the tea rodent age ...". What is that supposed to mean? Is it a literal translation of a metaphor? I can't use Google Translate since its current interface is completely inaccessible with JAWS. Graham87 12:44, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

No, not a metaphor, (answering here fore everyone to smile,) the word in question was Teenager, taken as a composition of two German words, Tee Nager, translated (correctly) to tea rodent.

Lol! Machine translation still has a long way to go. Graham87 13:25, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Gerlinde Sämann

— Rlevse • Talk • 00:02, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

International May Festival, Wiesbaden

I just created this little stub which you may be interested in fleshing out.4meter4 (talk) 07:33, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Erminia Frezzolini

The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Antonio Poggi

The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

• I nominated only his wife, so don't count this one.

DYK for Adelaide Borghi-Mamo

— Rlevse • Talk • 00:03, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Adelaide Malanotte

— Rlevse • Talk • 06:02, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Agustarello Affré

Materialscientist (talk) 00:03, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Reger-Chor

Materialscientist (talk) 12:11, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Ada Adini

— Rlevse • Talk • 00:04, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Domenico Annibali

TheDYKUpdateBot 12:02, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Warum betrübst du dich, mein Herz, BWV 138

TheDYKUpdateBot 12:04, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Sonia Prina

The DYK project (nominate) 18:04, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Komm, du süße Todesstunde, BWV 161

— Rlevse • Talk • 00:02, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Fortunato Chelleri

— Rlevse • Talk • 18:03, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Bringet dem Herrn Ehre seines Namens, BWV 148

The DYK project (nominate) 06:03, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Es wartet alles auf dich, BWV 187

— Rlevse • Talk • 12:02, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Der ferne Klang

Hello, Gerda Arendt. You have new messages at Francesco Malipiero's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

--Francesco Malipiero (talk) 17:34, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Re: Different

I'll take a peek. I wish I could be at the concert! Graham87 11:57, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

All done. The first chorus of BWV 12 is just breath-taking. I was trying to find some words to describe the quasi-canonic first part of that chorus, but this recording left me speechless! Graham87 12:58, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for sharing this. I listened and stopped typing! (That says a lot.) I also had to find words for our concert program, but they would be considered original research here. I am sure that the four notes of the last alto entrance (prepared by the four preceding entrances of the Andante) a e f c, mean the cross, das Zeichen Jesu, the sign of Jesus. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:32, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

I've replied at my page, to keep the indentation manageable. Graham87 14:28, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Missa (Bach)

The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Hildegard Laurich

The DYK project (nominate) 18:03, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Petra Noskaiová

The DYK project (nominate) 06:03, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Herr Christ, der einge Gottessohn, BWV 96

— Rlevse • Talk • 18:04, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Stephen Varcoe

The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Andris Nelsons

Thanks for your note about Andris Nelsons. I don't really think that more of an introduction is needing regarding the international stature of Andris Nelsons. The number of 3rd-party references and the existence of the article is, to me, sufficient to convey his importance in the classical music world right now. In my opinion, writing more in the introduction threatens to turn the article into a fan page, which wikipedia is most emphatically not supposed to be. If it is any measure of his current place, you can look at the July 2010 traffic statistics, where there is a large spike at the time of his appearance at The Proms. Cheers, DJRafe (talk) 23:59, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Werner Güra

The DYK project (nominate) 12:03, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Barbara Scherler

— Rlevse • Talk • 12:02, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Marguerite Bériza

Here is one you might enjoy reading and noming for DYK. Best.4meter4 (talk) 15:52, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

By all means please expand Orville Harrold. Would be nice to make this a double. :-) I'll take a look at it too and watch the nom. Thanks for the help! I thought you might have picked the Bach cantatas as a hook but I like the one you came up with.4meter4 (talk) 22:16, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Ich elender Mensch, wer wird mich erlösen, BWV 48

— Rlevse • Talk • 12:04, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Marguerite Bériza

The DYK project (nominate) 00:04, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Orville Harrold

The DYK project (nominate) 00:04, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Re: International Bach Competition

Hello, thanks for your message and interest in the matter. No problem with merging those two, I just thought that the list of prizewinners is too long (and includes too many red links) to be involved in the article. It would be better perhaps to divide the list into columns. I'd be grateful if you could see to it, I'm not very active on enwiki. Kind regards Gregory of Nyssa (talk) 10:27, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

• By the way, I see you're into the topic of Bach... Haven't you any info about jurors in the competition 1950-2008? I cannot find a full list anywhere. Gregory of Nyssa (talk) 10:37, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Lauren Flanigan

Here is another good DYK possibility. :-)4meter4 (talk) 09:53, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. :-)4meter4 (talk) 10:26, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Re: BWV 60?

Done. To tag one of your user pages for speedy deletion, add {{db-u1}} to it. Graham87 11:41, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Ach! ich sehe, itzt, da ich zur Hochzeit gehe, BWV 162

— Rlevse • Talk • 00:02, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Mac Morgan

Here is another DYK potential for you. :-)4meter4 (talk) 03:20, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Victuallers (talk) 14:47, 21 October 2010 (UTC)Picture is fine I just suggested that we forget to mention who sketched it as it confused the hook

DYK for Lauren Flanigan

— Rlevse • Talk • 06:03, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Ich glaube, lieber Herr, hilf meinem Unglauben, BWV 109

— Rlevse • Talk • 12:03, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

31 Oct

See comment for your 31 Oct hook. — Rlevse • Talk • 23:39, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Mac Morgan

— Rlevse • Talk • 18:02, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Bach DYK

Hello, an editor has asked me to correct the DYK hook of one of your articles. Could you please quickly comment at User talk:Sandstein#Error in forthcoming DYK about whether the proposed change is correct?  Sandstein  11:20, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

BWV 55

It is my pleasure! I'm going to add some English translations, having worked out how to stay the right side of copyright. Best regards, Mathsci (talk) 18:52, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK-related discussion which mentions you

Hi, Just to let you know, there is a discussion which mentions you here [6] --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:20, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

The BLP Barnstar

		The BLP Barnstar
		Thanks for brightening up my day after many hours of cleaning up dozens of poorly sourced BLP stubs :) Kudpung (talk) 10:51, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Piccolo Quintet

-- Cirt (talk) 12:02, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Christiane Kohl

-- Cirt (talk) 06:02, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Janis Martin (soprano)

-- Cirt (talk) 00:04, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Falsche Welt, dir trau ich nicht, BWV 52

-- Cirt (talk) 06:04, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Kaspar or Caspar

In looking at the red links in the Bonhoff article I find that a Google search has Johann Seyfert with his middle name as "Caspar" more often than "Kaspar". I've seen this K/C in my own German ancestors, and am not sure if it is an Englishing of the name or a variant in German as well. I disambiguated his surname and put it as Caspar. I suggest a similar change in Bonhoff. When the Seyfert article is written they can do a redirect. LilHelpa (talk) 12:09, 7 November 2010 (UTC) Update-- I started the Seyfert article and did the redirect to it. --LilHelpa (talk) 13:21, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your messages

For your information, I'm currently not in the mood to do lots of free work to promote Jimmy Wales's ego. He may be able to combine being a pornographer with being a prude, but he can't tell the difference between good faith editors who get exasperatedby malicious trolls and said malicious trolls.--Peter cohen (talk) 20:21, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Double Bach cantatas

Two ticks issued and I've moved the nominations to the special holding areas to increase their visibility. Nice work, as expected. I've suggested a slight reword on the hook of the first article - any thoughts? Bencherlite^Talk 14:34, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Monika Frimmer

The DYK project (nominate) 18:04, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Christa Bonhoff

The DYK project (nominate) 18:04, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Dantes Diwiak

The DYK project (nominate) 18:04, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Andreas Pruys

The DYK project (nominate) 12:03, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for O Ewigkeit, du Donnerwort, BWV 60

The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Johannes Krahn

Gatoclass (talk) 12:03, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Du Friedefürst, Herr Jesu Christ, BWV 116

The DYK project (nominate) 06:03, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for St. Martin, Idstein

The DYK project (nominate) 12:03, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

I'll do yours if you do mine

Ah.. you showed up just in time. It must be extra sensory perception. I need you to look at Heinrich Zoelly for me. I tried to bring it in from the German Wikipedia. Also, do you know how to attribute it to the German WP? If not, I'll look up how to do it. Thanks, smile. --LilHelpa (talk) 15:28, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Re: Wolfgang Schäfer

Hi Gerda, yes, I certainly do. I've just copyedited that article. Is the change from "last concert" to "farewell concert" okay? Graham87 01:14, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good, I'm glad he's still working, albeit in a limited capacity. I wonder if "music education" is a good translation for "Schulmusik" in this case? Graham87 12:06, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Gabriel Dessauer

Materialscientist (talk) 18:03, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Max Beckschäfer

Materialscientist (talk) 18:03, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Elisabeth Scholl

Materialscientist (talk) 06:03, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

The 100 DYK Medal

		The 100 DYK Medal
		THIS MEDAL IS HEREBY BESTOWED UPON GERDA ARENDT, SHORTLY AFTER THE TREMENDOUS CENTURY MILESTONE WAS REACHED. SO MUCH MUSIC, SO MUCH TIME. MOONRAKER2 (TALK) 11:25, 26 NOVEMBER 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Daniel Sans

Materialscientist (talk) 06:03, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Please consider DYK nom for Matthew Passion table

http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Template_talk:Did_you_know#Articles_created.2Fexpanded_on_November_26

Thanks! Woz2 (talk) 01:21, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your message re: DYK. I missed the bit about only prose counting. Ah well, maybe next time. Woz2 (talk) 14:18, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

It looks like you need 1,500 characters of prose for DYK. Is there anything useful to add to prose section? e.g. why did NBA think it necessary to invent a new numbering scheme? The BWV scheme seemed OK to me. What didn't they like about it? Woz2 (talk) 14:24, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Wolfgang Schäfer

Materialscientist (talk) 06:03, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Stefano Bernardi

Materialscientist (talk) 18:03, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Nun komm, der Heiden Heiland, BWV 61

Materialscientist (talk) 00:02, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Actus tragicus

I'm not sure what you're getting at. I'd say that "Actus tragicus" is even wronger Latin than "Actus Tragicus", the correct spelling obviously being "ACTVS TRAGICVS".  --Lambiam 19:46, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Diethard Hellmann

Materialscientist (talk) 06:03, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Jens Josef

Materialscientist (talk) 18:03, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

		What a Brilliant Idea Barnstar
		To Gerda for the Jens Josef article and DYK nom. Not only was it a good article, the reference to the WorldCat site (new to me) encouraged me explore it for the Robert Greenberg article I was working on, and the site proved to be a gold mine of information about his compositions. Thanks! Woz2 (talk) 15:36, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Wachet! betet! betet! wachet! BWV 70

The DYK project (nominate) 18:03, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Rudi Spring

Materialscientist (talk) 12:20, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Mille grazie

Now, to find some use to put it to... :-) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 15:15, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Oh, excellent - perhaps I'll look in this evening. At the moment, it's off to Don Carlo at the movies. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 16:19, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for St. Bonifatius, Wiesbaden

Materialscientist (talk) 18:04, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Glacier Noir

Thanks Gerda. I will rework the lede, but need to make sure the hook is properly referenced (I had to translate it from French!). Re "Oisins": the German article says "Dauphiné", but the reference says "Oisins" which is a region in the French Alps. So I had to use that. Unfortunately there is not yet an English Wiki article on Oisins. Gruß. --Bermicourt (talk) 20:41, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Okay, the lede has been simplified and the hook moved to the next section and references also simplified. I have created a short article on the Oisans (yes, I know, I got the spelling wrong!) and linked it for greater clarity. How does it now look? --Bermicourt (talk) 21:47, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

BTW would you like to join WP:WikiProject Germany? We need all the experts we can get! --Bermicourt (talk) 21:47, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the invitation, you are right, I never officially joined, just did the Portal's DYK for months, smile. But I'm not an expert, only a singer. - I looked at the French Alps: no Oisins. BTW I think French Alps is a better link than just French. One more: if you change a hook more than minor, do it as an alternative, you can cross out the former one by <s></s> if needed. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:02, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice with this. I have simplified the sentence you suggested and a few others as well to clean it up a bit more. It's now been okayed but that doesn't mean it can't be improved further.

Well, you are an expert of sorts - your English (and presumably your German too) is outstanding! I've focussed mainly on translating articles from German Wiki, especially around the area I live. But I hope to pick one or two and develop them into B then GA then FA if I can. --Bermicourt (talk) 18:39, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Ooopppsss! Yes, it's now moved - but a disappointing (or suspiciously) low no. of hits. --Bermicourt (talk) 18:43, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Schnarcherklippen

Hi Gerda. I wonder if you can help with the proper translation of the excerpts from Faust in the above article. It would be good to be able to display both German and English versions side-by-side if possible. Gruß. --Bermicourt (talk) 16:53, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

But I thought you were German?! Klippen are crags, rock outcrops, etc. --Bermicourt (talk) 21:11, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

"Cliffs" seems to be obvious. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 06:38, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

"Cliff" is not always the right translation. A cliff is a steep or vertical rock face on the side of a mountain or overlooking the sea. But the Schnarcherklippen are rock pinnacles, so in this particular case we wouldn't call them "cliffs". Even "crag" is not quite right. "Rocks" is general enough and "pinnacles" are what they actually are. --Bermicourt (talk) 10:02, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

• Learning, thank you! I would introduce the term pinnacles right in the lede, then, also the translation. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:05, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

I've added a note in the article lede to that effect anyway. Re: the Kamelfelsen, I've left the translation as "sun disc" because "sun wheel" appears to mean a circle and cross representing the sun, whereas "sun disc" seems to better describe the rock carvings - there is a good picture of one at [7] (bottom right). Where a translation (usually specialist) is unclear, I usually put the original German in brackets, so an expert can come along and correct it later. Could be a useful "guideline" as long as it isn't abused. --Bermicourt (talk) 10:10, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

BWV 132

Hi. Thanks for the help with Glacier Noir and letting me know it's in the queue. I've approved BWV 132 after eventually finding the reference - great hook for tomorrow if they're quick! --Bermicourt (talk) 17:47, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Bereitet die Wege, bereitet die Bahn! BWV 132

Materialscientist (talk) 12:03, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

St. Martin, Idstein

I've tweaked the paragraph about the organ based on what I learnt at pipe organ, but left the German words in brackets just in case. I'm off to rebuild my Bavarian train set, but will try and have a look at those other DYK noms later if I have time. --Bermicourt (talk) 12:30, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

P.S. You might want to archive your talk page soon! It's getting rather long! --Bermicourt (talk) 12:30, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for The Legend (opera)

Materialscientist (talk) 00:02, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Gelobet seist du, Jesu Christ, BWV 91

Seasons Greetings. Thanks for your contribution from the DYK project Victuallers (talk) 06:02, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Gelobet seist du, Jesu Christ

Seasons Greetings. Thanks for your contribution from the DYK project Victuallers (talk) 06:02, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for The Emperor Jones (opera)

Materialscientist (talk) 06:04, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Selig ist der Mann, BWV 57

Season's Greetings! --The DYK project (nominate) 12:03, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Sehet, welch eine Liebe hat uns der Vater erzeiget, BWV 64

BorgQueen (talk) 12:03, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK review

Hi. I responded to your DYK review of The Merry Zingara at the Did You Know nominations page. Here's a link to the nomination. Thanks. -- Ssilvers (talk) 16:02, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

? I am one of the two authors. Tim and I worked on these articles together, and you'll see me listed as Author 2. I wondered why you sent your notice only to Tim, but not to me... Tim initially put the information up on the article, but some of it is based on materials that I had previously written; then I added to it. Do you want me to e-mail him and ask him to respond also? -- Ssilvers (talk) 16:15, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

No, please forgive me, I missed that you also wrote this entertaining piece! I'm still new to reviewing. Will tick it now, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:23, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

No problem; but in the meantime I have managed to confuse Tim, who may weigh in at the DYK page. All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:44, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Stripsenjochhaus

I agree, the place looks amazing - I hope to visit it this summer. You're right about Zahmer Kaiser - that's done - and I've added the ref for the quote and changed the font size and appearance (it was set to the default before). I can't find a reference to the fire. If it's a problem for the DYK I'll take it out - it came from German Wiki. Gruß. --Bermicourt (talk) 22:00, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

PS Well done on your lead DYK for Christmas Day - very appropriate! Halleluya! --Bermicourt (talk) 22:02, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

I think the appearance of the quote box depends on your browser setting. Mine is fine at zoom=100% and text size=medium, but goes wrong at other settings (try pressing Ctrl + and Ctrl - and you'll see what I mean). Anyway I've changed it to blockquote which seems to work better at different settings. --Bermicourt (talk) 09:08, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK archive

Sehr geehrte Frau Arendt, are we recording our DYKs in different places. I put my (Germany-related) ones at WP:WikiProject Germany#Did you know? (DYK), but I don't see yours there. Wo sind sie? Mit freundlichen Grüßen. --Bermicourt (talk) 17:12, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Section (Alpine club)

Well spotted! Of course it's only a translation (that's mainly what I do) but the article could be improved. I use the term "club" because that seems to be the generally accepted English term for these organisations - see [8] and [9]. I was surprised by the SD, but take a look at the user's other contributions. He's been on Wikipedia for about 3 nanoseconds and has contributed a whole raft of SDs and notability tags. Hmmm... --Bermicourt (talk) 22:07, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Good luck. Club - it's more than that, club sounds a bit like night our private. Perhaps just have Association bold and establish a redirect, same for Alpenverein. (That's what I do for choirs, redirect them to their founder until they get their own article.) - Someone translated one of my articles to German, a new experience. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:44, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Harlequin Cock Robin

What a splendid message to get on New Year's Eve! Best wishes for 2011. Tim riley (talk) 21:58, 31 December 2010 (UTC)