User talk:Digitizemuseumcollections

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First, Welcome to Wikipedia and to editing museum articles. It is great to have the help working on these pages. If you have any questions or need help coding feel free to check in with me. You may wish to check out and join WikiProject Museums It is a community of Wikipedia users interested in improving Wikipedia's content surrounding museums. Myotus (talk) 00:17, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

February 2023

Hello Digitizemuseumcollections. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Digitizemuseumcollections. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Digitizemuseumcollections|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. 331dot (talk) 21:43, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, the current content in this sandbox will be moved over to the creation of a new Wikipedia page called CatalogIt (it will then be deleted from this sandbox), and the final page will include the Paid template requirement. Digitizemuseumcollections (talk) 22:27, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That's fine, but you need to post a disclosure as instructed on your user page as well. You also should submit a draft article(the preferred term, not the broader "page") for review and not directly create one. 331dot (talk) 22:33, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, understood! Can you please clarify what the correct paid disclosure is that should be used for this draft article? Digitizemuseumcollections (talk) 22:34, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My first post above describes the notice to put on your user page, User:Digitizemuseumcollections. Your draft is not ready for the encyclopedia; it reads like a company website, not a neutral encyclopedia article that summarizes what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the system, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of notability. Wikipedia is not for merely telling about something and what it does. 331dot (talk) 22:38, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for this information. Can you offer deeper clarification regarding which section(s) of the draft article read as a company website? I will revise to meet the standards of Wikipedia, but did intend to word the draft in a fact-based, straightforward manner. Digitizemuseumcollections (talk) 23:11, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The whole draft reads like company literature. The majority of the draft is unsourced, mostly the parts describing the features and how the system was developed, which doesn't contribute to notability. Any article about this must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage of your system choose on their own to say about it. "Significant coverage" goes beyond merely telling what it does and goes into detail about its significance or influence as the source(s) sees it, not as the company that created it sees it. I get that you and the company think it is important, and it may be, but we need independent sources to say that on their own(not prompted by the company or based on materials from the company) and say how exactly it is important. Your sources are

An announcement of a museum using this system which just name drops the system
a piece about a digital donation that doesn't even mention the system but seems to describe its use
a piece written by a Catalogit board member, which is not an independent source
a brief piece describing the use of the system with some quotes from a creator and a user
similar to the first
a press release from a user of the system, not independent
a piece describing the use of the system
a blog entry that doesn't even mention the system; blogs are almost never considered reliable sources
another piece describing the use of the system
similar to the second source

None of these are acceptable for establishing notability. Please read Your First Article for more information. I fear that you may be too close to this to be able to write about it as Wikipedia requries; you must set aside everything you know about Catalogit, all materials from your company, and all routine coverage, and only write based on the content of independent reliable sources. Most people in your position have great difficulty doing that. 331dot (talk) 00:11, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

331dot, I concur with your findings and opinions. The article comes off very strongly as a marketing piece, not an encyclopedic article. Additionally both citations 7 and 9 from History Associates Incorporated's website can be considered not an independent source as they are a business partner with CatalogIt. Digitizemuseumcollections, You may wish to look at software articles on Wikipedia that have Good article status to see examples to work from. Ex: MacPaint & Android Debug Bridge. Myotus (talk) 19:58, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @331dot and @Myotus, thank you for the above feedback and the recommendations. Based on you comments, I have rewritten the draft. I have also tried to add the disclaimer mentioned above, but I am continuing to see a "Incorrect template usage. Please use {{connected contributor (paid)}} instead" error message. I see a similar error message when I try using the other template mentioned. Can you please provide guidance here? After I properly include the template I would like to submit this draft for review. Thank you! Digitizemuseumcollections (talk) 22:50, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again @Myotus, I wanted to reach out as I am working to revise the CatalogIt draft for resubmission. Can you please advise if there is a way to move the draft back into the sandbox? Digitizemuseumcollections (talk) 17:24, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: CatalogIt (March 15)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Greenman was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject)
reliable
secondary
independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:CatalogIt and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Greenman (talk) 10:38, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Digitizemuseumcollections! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Greenman (talk) 10:38, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:CatalogIt

Hello, Digitizemuseumcollections. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:CatalogIt, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 11:03, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]