User talk:Catchsinger

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This user's request to be unblocked to request a change in username has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

Catchsinger (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Requested username:

Catchsinger (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Request reason:

My account has been blocked because the article Catch (music) appeared to be intended for publicity and/or promotional purposes. Though I had not intended promotional activity (and was hurt by the accusation that it was intended only for advertising or promotion), the decision was clearly justified as things stand, especially as I had failed to respond to an earlier warning. There are also COI issues, which may contravene neutrality. Had I read and fully absorbed all the guidance notes beforehand, through which I have since been working, I would have made several differences. The bulk of the article is neutral and can become fully so; I would like to try to improve it in due course into a category above Start-Class . I had planned to add pages on minor composers whom I have mentioned, or am likely to mention, in the Catch article as well as comments on rounds and glees and a few topics in non-musical domains. I will be grateful for an opportunity to improve my editing, and to sign my Talk entries properly. CatchClub 4:13 pm, 12 February 2016, last Friday (5 days ago) (UTC+1)

Accept reason:

Allowing username change to requested username. Please put this request in at Wikipedia:Changing username as soon as possible to avoid re-blocking. Vanjagenije (talk) 11:17, 17 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You obviously have a WP:Conflict of interest regarding the Catch (music) article. Do you understand what does that mean? Our WP:COI policy is clear: COI editing is strongly discouraged. Even if we unblock you, you would not be allowed to directly edit any article with which you have a COI, including Catch (music). You would be able to propose changes using the WP:requested edit process, but not to make edits yourself. You would also not be allowed to create articles on "minor composers". Since they are "minor", they are probably not WP:NOTABLE, and since you have a COI, you can only propose article creation using the WP:AFC process, but not directly create it. Are you aware of all of this? Do you still want to be unblocked after you have learned this? Vanjagenije (talk) 19:54, 16 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Regards COI

I think I had expressed this badly. I do not personally have a conflict of interest, but had managed to create one in the article in question by quoting material I had written without taking adequate precautions over checking.

The user name CatchClub is one that my wife invented years before I thought of editing in Wikipedia and has an associated password which is easy for us to remember for historical reasons. My email address is one of several that I use, all @ashworth.demon.co.uk because as an early subscriber to Demon I have in effect a complete domain, and it helps to filter incoming emails to suitable folders; some include other interests (croquet for example) but most are based on personal names. Much of this problem arises from having sung catches in an amateur club (group of friends really) for over 40 years, which might indicate that I am well past the age of being interested in commercial possibilities. It may be that you would consider my proposed alternative name as too close to CatchClub, in which case I will find another.

As regards what I have called minor composers, your response implies that Wikipedia's coverage is complete and not to be added to, which I am sure you did not mean. One or two were well known in their own field but also wrote catches and glees as amateurs; some of them are mentioned in the Catch article, which is clear because there are no links; I would like to create short articles to enable such links.

So, yes please, I really would like to be able to continue to edit and will take much more care in future to avoid over-enthusiasm. I would like to place my knowledge and skills, such as they are, at Wikipedia's service. CatchClub 10:22, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

I unblocked your account. You should request username change as soon as possible, as explained above (green box). Your username (CatchClub) together with your edits (example) suggest that you have a COI regarding certain Catch club(s). You've been a member of Wikipedia for more than a year, and the only article you've been editing is Catch (music), mostly writing about Catch clubs. When we say "promotion", that does not necessarily mean "advertising" or commercial promotion. Many people want to use Wikipedia to promote their non-commercial causes, which is not allowed (see: WP:NOBLECAUSE). So, you are free to write about catch music, but you should avoid writing about Catch clubs with which you are personally connected. As about your comment regarding composers, I never said that "Wikipedia's coverage is complete and not to be added to". What I said is that Wikipedia has certain inclusion criteria called WP:NOTABILITY. Wikipedia only accepts articles about subjects that are notable according to that criteria, and notability is proved by citing several reliable independent sources with significant coverage of the subject. Vanjagenije (talk) 11:17, 17 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Your thread has been archived

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