User talk:Wizzy/Archive3

Archives at User talk:Wikiwizzy/Archive1 up to October 2005, User talk:Wikiwizzy/Archive2 to March, 2006.

I will answer requests here, if you post them here. I mostly concentrate on Africa based articles.

Township Category

I've renamed the category as suggested. --Mohau 10:05, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Township is defined as a residential development which confined non-whites (Africans, "coloureds" and Indians) who lived near or worked in white-only communities.

Residential developments that were developed for non-whites would be in the list, but any other residential development that did not have the same racial confines will not be included. --Mohau 13:32, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

I am a little uncomfortable categorizing them based on race. Where is the 'new' South Africa ? Wizzy…☎ 06:07, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

They are categorized on intent and not current status. There are a few non-whites residing in these residential developments currently, so they are no longer confined to race, but the original intent was just that.

Just to bring my point to perspective, there are residential areas that were earmarked for whites and post 1994, when non whites started buying into these areas, white people literally moved out and currently these areas are occupied by non-whites. These residential areas would not be categorized as township. Hope that makes sense... --Mohau 06:56, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Proxies (hopefully sorted now)

I've sent an email to Tim Starling (according to meta:XFF project), with the details of the proxies, and he replied that they have been whitelisted. So hopefully everything's sorted out now. dewet|™ 08:27, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Great! I presume the proxies do the X-Forwarded-From ? Did you check ? Wizzy…☎ 08:32, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I checked using another proxy-detecting-website; they pass my real IP on. I've also verified in the sandbox that my IP shows up, so everything seems hunky-dory. dewet|™ 02:38, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

wikibreak

Andy. Sure. I won't post again before end April. best wishes. Bob BScar23625 21:20, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you Andy for the revert on my talk page. As soon as I start vandal patrol this starts. I see that you are from Kenya, what tribe? My neighbours are Kenyan. The husband is Luo and the wife is Kĩkũyũ. --Jcw69 18:17, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

The White tribe .. :-) Wizzy…☎ 11:18, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

"what tribe?" <- That's too funny!!!!!!!!!!!! They say a laugh a day keeps the doctor away - at this rate I'll be immortal!! Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 11:55, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, I consider myself African, and so I don't consider the question inappropriate. It was not intended as a facetious reply. Wizzy…☎ 13:07, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Eh? I thought I belonged to the only white tribe of Africa? :-) Elf-friend 07:02, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

A laugh a minute (well, almost)

Well, considering yourself African does not mean you belong to a "tribe". In the same way that being a US rapper does not mean you are a nigger. Beware of colonialist divide-and-conquer theories when dealing with African issues. Speaking of which, could you perhaps take a look at what I dumped at Talk:Bantu languages yesterday? Be sure to tell all your friends about it... Please alert me on my talk page when you respond. Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 14:25, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

CD download

Fixed now. thanks for heads up (you may need to refresh)

--BozMo - talk 07:10, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Getting it ! Wizzy…☎ 08:17, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Not really but just to show you: {{WPCD}} — Preceding unsigned comment added by BozMo (talk • contribs)

Yes, I have been following things, and will be tagging articles. Any word on a script to build the CD ? Wizzy…☎ 08:22, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

South African Timeline

Andy, some users want to vote off the Timeline of South African history from wikipedia. Please vote at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Timeline of South African history. Thank you --Jcw69 20:40, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your vote, the nomination for deletion has been withdrawn. --Jcw69 12:29, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Please vote

Hi, if you have not yet done so, we could sure use your input on Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Dewet. Thanks! Elf-friend 10:24, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

WPCD

Hi Andy, regarding the WDCD template you're adding, does the template automatically add these to a category page, do you know? I tried to follow what was being added from "what links here," but it doesn't list pages in alphabetical order, so it's hard to use, whereas the category list would be alphabetical. Any information gratefully received. :-) SlimVirgin ^(talk) 13:50, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

SV, The Talk page is added to [[Category:Wikipedia CD Selection]]. The project page mentions it, but perhaps the template itself should mention it directly? Wizzy…☎ 13:54, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Hello Andy -- Just wanted to send a "thank you" for adding the WPCD tag to the Che Guevara article!-- Polaris999 17:17, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

WP1.0, CD and WP0.5

Hi Wizzy,

Hey, thank you so much for getting the WPCD template out there, that's really helpful! Can I take it that you would be interested in helping with the next version of that collection?

Thanks also for signing up to help out with WP:V0.5. I was thinking of opening up the V0.5 nominations page on Thursday to start accepting nominations, what do you think? Will you be around to help in the next few weeks? Would you be able to help review articles for it? I have contacted Maurreen and Tito directly as well, they are currently the active folks associated with this, though I hope that more will join us once we get up & running. Let me know your opinion. Thanks again for all your help, Walkerma 02:43, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

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Hello again, I notice that you have been busy with the {{WPCD}} template, and I saw your mention of downloading category listings. Have you thought about using the bot to do this sort of thing for you? The main listing is here, and there is a guide to adding a project to the listing. I'll also post something on the project page. I hope, too, that you can help review articles for us at WP:V0.5N when you get a chance. South Africa has already been passed! Cheers, Walkerma 01:27, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

I want to try and turn out a CD myself, just to get through the whole process once. I like Bozmo's CD, but its just not big enough! I converted it to plucker format, and its only 40Meg - I would like one 10x that size. I am not as picky as he is either - even though schools are a target of mine as well. I am thinking along the following lines :-

1. Start with a current xml dump - 89% now, I should have it all tomorrow.
2. Get used to the xml tools, like mwdumper. I can cut down the dump to just the list in a file - that list is the WPCD category dump.
3. I need the category listings to work on the CD.
4. Post-processing on the dump - remove 'red-linked' article markup. I think I will leave External Links - they can be useful.
5. Count highly inter-referenced pages that are not in my selection - consider adding a proportion.
6. List all images referenced in the dump. Figure out how to get just those pictures out of the impossibly-sized image tarballs - maybe by getting them directly via Export or something.

I have the mediawiki software, so I can re-create a server with just those articles. I have (a quite old) picture archive, that might save me some time. Maybe a combination of my own server and some pybot tools will allow me to experiment ? Wizzy…☎ 13:27, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Sorry I took a while to follow up. I know that User:BozMo can do a lot of the cleanup that you mention, though I dare say you knew that! If you want a bigger list, try looking at Wikipedia:Concise, though I notice that WPCD is getting much bigger now (Bozmo said around 4500 to me recently). At some point soon we will need to set up a sub-project at WP:1.0 to handle all of these sorts of issues, would you be willing to be involved with that? I realise that Version 0.5 may only be small, but I think things will begin to grow rapidly once we begin to produce CDs. Let us know how you get on. Thanks, Walkerma 04:35, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Static content notes : do you have time to engage in running discussions about how to generate static content snapshots of WP, et al? I'm helping start a static content working group, and working with people designing a small-footprint snapshot for the One Laptop per Child machines... would love your expertise, wish-lists, and other input. +sj + 00:12, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Very much so. I have a procedure down - which includes categories - yaay. I now have to make pictures work (without downloading the entire tarball): not present on my snapshot, they all register as upload links. I think I need to figure out the hashing algorithm, and pick them up individually. I must also figure out the cleanup scripts, to remove interwiki links and other dross, like See also links that do not exist in the snapshot. Wizzy…☎ 11:48, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

The South African Bush Telegraph

Hi Andy, the Africa Award has been proposed as an official award, we could sure use your input at the proposal page - Thank you! --Jcw69 07:56, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Me again, the South African Bush Telegraph has a page of its own. If you interested please go to ... Wikipedia:WikiProject South Africa/Bush Telegraph. Regards, --Jcw69 15:21, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

St Lucia

Hi Andy, I am sorry I don't know how to reference a page without showing the image. Would you like me to change the image in any way? I have the source files somewhere. Just let me know and its good as done. --Jcw69 16:16, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Done!!! The photoshop source was not on my computer anymore and had to search a number of backup disks for it. Anyway I have uploaded the new one. --Jcw69 11:00, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Looks fine - Thanks!! Wizzy…☎ 11:57, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Howzit...

...from BarCampCapeTown ;) dewet|✉ 13:08, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Robert I

Why is Robert Isherwood still banned? Two more people have been banned for giving very similar legal advice etc. As its extremely unlikely they are all the same person (!) what is the precise argument against him? 81.129.155.181 22:18, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Wikimania :-)

Will you be online for wikimania ? Where are you living/working these days? Best, +sj + 14:03, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Online ? IRC or something ? Still in Cape Town. Wizzy…☎ 08:45, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Libya

Hi,

I've recently added Libya to the list of featured article candidates. Overall the candidature is going well with many of the objections now sorted out. The final concrete objection is with the article's prose. I have been the main contributor to the article and have been looking at it for the previous 9 - 10 months. My eyes no longer see it freshly, so I am not a suitable copy-editor!

To meet the final demand of copy editing, I have been advised to ask different people to edit parts of the article.

I would really love to get this article featured as you can probably see from the page's history! I've worked very hard on it and I see this as possibly being the final hurdle.

You can see the prose objections, mostly raised by Sandy, on the candidature page. If you have the time, please choose a section (Politics, Religion, Culture etc.) and copyedit, perfect, ace it! I would be very grateful with any help I can get.

Thanks a lot,

P.S. I see you have the coveted Africa award. Would you much rather have this : )

--Jaw101ie 17:02, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

CopyVio.

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! We appreciate your contributions to the Trevor Ncube article, but we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material. Perhaps you would like to rewrite the article in your own words. For more information, take a look at Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Happy editing! [1] -- Jeandré, 2006-07-24t18:28z

Good work on Atomic line filter

Thanks for note! I'm glad you appreciate it. -- Rmrfstar 13:39, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

cheers

Thanks for the note. I guess this means that I'll be sticking around.  :) - BT 20:20, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Back to Barack

Hey Wizzy. I've been working on Barack Obama these last days and was hoping you'd consider cleaning up and condensing the Africa section there (where I see you'd contributed earlier), to take it from a kind of rolling newsfeed to a more encyclopedic tone. As yet, there is no detailed mention of the HIV test or the Chad visit and Darfur isssues. Would be great for our global Wikipedia if some of the key references cited come from the local press. Others who can lend a hand are also welcome. There's loads of material about it on the official Obama sites (listed at the bottom of the article), and "Obama"+anything is a googler's paradise. Thanks in advance.--HailFire 23:36, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

I've also posted this --HailFire 16:06, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for you edits, good stuff, much appreciated! I thought the stage version of Dreams from My Father was an interesting story, but think you did right to remove it and add more detail about the tensions with the Kenyan government (maybe insert those lines in the article dedicated to the book?). A good balance showing the Kenya visit was not all happy talk. --HailFire 15:29, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

For sure, but the quote seemed a bit ugly, so I took it out. Add it back somewhere ... Wizzy…☎ 15:36, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Your vote please

Hi Wikiwizzy - Please vote on the proposed title change of the 'South African farmer murders' page. The straw poll is here. Please also pass this message on to others you think would be interested. Thank you! Cheers, Jason Lionchow - Talk 08:29, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Butterworth, Eastern Cape

No problem, Andy, to tell you the truth I also saw the notice on the African Regional Board and started the article. When I went back to let them know that it was done, I saw that there had just been another new article for the same place created so I just made it a re-direct. :-) It is good that many of us cover all the bases --Jcw69 10:55, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks a lot for your kindness! Of course all of this work comes to nought if there isn't someone like yourself to put it into a usable format for the world to read! No pressure! I'll be in touch regularly in the coming days. Thanks, Walkerma 18:26, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Torrent project

You have (I dl'd) a Palm-compatable format of BozMo's 2006 Wikipedia CD Selection. Are you are planning to do this with future releases? Interest in distributing a Palm version was expressed here. If OK with you, The torrent project could take the version you have made available by ftp and pass it along the channels the project works in. Do you know if this is already on eD2K or in the Kad Network? (I searched for wikipedia.pdb and wikipedia palm in eMule and found a similar but larger prc file). -- Paleorthid 17:58, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Certainly you can 'torrent' the palm version. Yes, I want to do the same for the next CD. I have personally already got BozMo's wpcd2 on my Palm - text only, though. The python script plucker-build that I use needs huge amounts of RAM - I will have to borrow a machine with at least 2Gig RAM to create the palm version of wpcd2. Wizzy…☎ 07:24, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Prior to preparing a torrent, I made the file available here. Basically my harddrive gets accessed by anyone who needs a copy. Let me know if including the ftp location or your WP userID give you any heart palpitations - I can edit them out very easily. Thanks for all your work on this! -- Paleorthid 05:08, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

No probs - thanks for setting it up. Wizzy…☎ 07:47, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Script

Any luck on finding a host for your script mentioned here? -- Paleorthid 17:58, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

I have emailed Nominaladversary. Are you offering? Wizzy…☎ 09:32, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

No. I don't have linux, for one thing. Just wanted to make sure it was still active and moving forward. -- Paleorthid 15:01, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Give me a skype if you can (skype: metasj, phone: +1617529 4266) about setting you up with an account. Unfortunately, we don't have a full image dump; I'm inquiring about what image data we have. +sj + 21:50, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

African military history

Hi, I'm trying to lay the foundation for an African military history task force within the Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history. Would you be interested in joining (I read your edits on Impi)? Greatings Wandalstouring 11:02, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Literacy

Hi. Your edit to Literacy (rv spam) seems to have gone wrong. I tried to fix it; perhaps you could check whether I guessed your intentions correctly? Cheers, Jitse Niesen (talk) 10:57, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

You did - I saw that linkspam come by another page, and did not check the history of the Literacy page. Thanks for fixing it. Perhaps the link is even appropriate ? It was not appropriate on the other (country) pages. Wizzy…☎ 11:14, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Whites in Zimbabwe

Andy. Thanks for the Barnstar - it is much appreciated. Tell me, can you see any link between images 1 and 7 in the Whites in Zimbabwe article?. best wishes. Bob BScar23625 14:51, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Nope. Should I ? Wizzy…☎ 15:04, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Maybe it needs just a little imagination?. best wishes. Bob BScar23625 15:09, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Well - they are 23 years apart - same chick ? Wizzy…☎ 15:34, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

You got it. Bob BScar23625 16:13, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

IRC meeting on Saturday

Hi Wizzy, we're having an IRC meeting at 23:00 UTC on Saturday November 4th, to discuss upcoming offline releases from en, please attend if you can! I think you could contribute a lot to the conversation, please feel free to add to the agenda if there's anything urgent. Please sign up here if you can make it, thanks! Walkerma 09:22, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Biglist

A complete list of articles in V0.5 (except countries and new additions) is at Wikipedia:Version 0.5/biglist. You should format it to work with the CDTools. Port 22 is still not open... Eyu100^{(t|fr|Version 1.0 Editorial Team)} 23:38, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Version 0.5

Reviewing has stopped. I have a complete list of all the articles that will go into Version 0.5 (except for the countries, you'll have to add them). Can you try to find a way to generate a CD from that list? You should probably post on the talk page, as you will most likely need help. Eyu100^{(t|fr|Version 1.0 Editorial Team)} 05:15, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks - I will give it a shot. I am a little stranded at the moment, as my laptop got stolen :-( but I have another machine. I will also contact Sj - it would be much easier on a big machine and access to the picture archive. Wizzy…☎ 07:32, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Wizzy, how are things going with Sj and pictures? Sorry to hear about your laptop, hope it is recovered. Our list is pretty much complete, we've done a lot of checks with AWB and the like to catch all the missing/broken tags, etc. We just need to see if any articles need the older version rather than the current one. We should hear from Emmanuel tomorrow about what Pascal's demo can offer. By the way, I thought (on IRC) pm27 was joking when he said his server was Windows based - this is the copy from my log:

• <andy1> pm27 - quelle OS ? Linux ?
• <pm27> windows :)
• <pm27> no debian
• <andy1> Thanks - I want the process, not the result
• <andy1> I want people to be able to roll their own, rather than the big sweat one CD story

Does this affect this information? I'll check with Emmanuel by email. Keep in touch. Cheers Walkerma 08:12, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Also see Emmanuel's update here. Walkerma 08:18, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

No, it does not. A student using a browser to read the CD will not be able to use the reader search index. Wizzy

I think pm27 was not referring to his software, he was referring to his working machine/server. Going through Emmanuel's document, this is a rough googly translation of the relevant sections :-

Portability

We need free multiplatform software:

• x86 & IA-64 /Win32
• x86 & IA-64 /Linux
• x86 & PPC /OSX

Accessibility

The software must reach the most level of accessibility. In its contents generated by the software, like the search results page [...]. Thus the software will have rigorously to satisfy chapter 12 (assistance with navigation) while the chapter 13 (contents accessible) is the responsibility of the content provider.

Localization

This software must make it possible to be easily localisable.

Technologies

This software must be based on XPFE.

• It should not use any server, even local.

Installation

The installation must:

• provide the choice of a minimal/maximum installation on the hard disk.
• provide the choice of installation path.
• install an icon in the menu of access to the programs, or on the desk (by choice).

Licence

All the provided code must be under licence LPG version 2.

• All software modules necessary to its correct operation
• must be compatible with the LPG version 2.

Delivery

The delivery must comprise for all the systems/architectures:

• The source code of the program with accompanying notes.
• the functional program (with fr.wikipedia.org like contents).
• An installer for Windows.
• an image for Mac.
• All scripts allowing the production of the program with its contents, also their documentation.
• User documentation of the product.

It all looks great, but all requires software to be installed. I don't want to nix their work, but I also want access with just a browser. Wizzy…☎ 13:05, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for this! Thanks too on the clarification of reader (Win) vs. server (Debian), I guess I was getting a bit confused. I agree with your final comment, but if there's room to include it on the CD, we can let the user make the choice. If it's a computer-savvy teenager with a 3 GHz processor and 1GB RAM, they will happily try out the free offline reader. If it's someone in a remote village school using a 486 computer (hey, even my lawyer here in Potsdam, New York still uses one!), then maybe they could use a basic browser. That may mean they can't do searches, but they should be able to use the alphabetical list and the article tree (which I plan to write soon). What about a javascript file - do we have one? Does BozMo? How would the HTML summary page work as an index - would you use the "Find in this page" feature in Firefox? If you can manage to download the huge file of Pascal's, please let me know what you think. Walkerma 17:04, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Trolling on SA articles

Hi. I think it would be better for all concerned if we simply ignore the various trolls on these articles instead of engaging them time and again. Zunaid©^{Please rate me at Editor Review!} 13:47, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

WPCD

Hi. Hope (and trust) the weather is a bit better where you are. Several things: the 0.5 plus images has been grabbed and put up here: http://wikipedia-release-version-0.5.fixedreference.org/ and our 2007 list (which is much longer) is at http://2007-wikipedia-cd-selection.fixedreference.org/wp/index/alpha.htm

Also to let you know about Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/2006_Wikipedia_CD_Selection. The current marginal majority to move the page to Wikipedia space. This makes some sense but practically far fewer people will ever see the CD releases if we always put them in project place (the internal search on Wikipedia excludes project pages) and I think there is enough notability now to make the case...--BozMo talk 11:57, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you BozMo - I am fetching them now. I will look over them, and I am interested in the total size. Will let you know in due course - and will find the time to come up with a way to re-create it from another article list. Your picture archive will help greatly. Did you use your own CSS around the pages ? Is that the best way to remove the clutter ? Wizzy…☎ 12:04, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

the css is fudged (and full of rubbish), but makes it look cleaner --BozMo talk 10:53, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Unnecessary info

I was just wondering if the "External links" and "See also" sections couldn't be removed? Lincher 17:01, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

It looks much nicer without them (2007 CD version from BozMo). Lincher 17:03, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Taj Mahal RFC

I've filed an RFC relating to the Taj Mahal at Talk:Taj Mahal#Request for Comment: Inclusion of minority points of view. Your comments would be welcome. Joopercoopers 18:22, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

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bondy by any other moniker has seen two serious blocks today and it looks like they will keep at it - so thanks for that - it will probably continue - sigh SatuSuro 13:22, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:2006 Wikipedia CD Selection

Wizzy, There is one week left for final comments on the 2007 Wikipedia CD Selection to be submitted. The 2006 CD has an estimated circulation of over 50,000 so its worth getting as good as possible. The most recent viewable copy is at : [2]. Changes planned are listed at Wikipedia:2006 Wikipedia CD Selection in terms of (1) articles currently included to exclude (2)articles to add (3) articles to update because the version listed is vandalised (4) sections to exclude (mainly on appropriateness to children) (5) string deletes and spelling corrections (to UK English) (6) redirects of common article names to the main article. Most proposals are coming to me by email (which is a bit easier to manage, so please do) but suggestions on the article page or discussion pages are also useful. Navigation and search pages are being sorted separately. --BozMo talk 14:04, 16 March 2007 (UTC) PS Plan is to download with thumbnails but offer a DVD with full images. I guess I could mail you the DVD...--BozMo talk 14:05, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for notifying me - I will take a look. Did you check kiwix, at http://download.kiwix.org/kiwix-0.5.iso.bz2 ? Wizzy…☎ 15:34, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Re: Submarines

Hey Wizzy. I'm kinda perplexed about the message as I'm not sure what exactly needs to be fixed up. So far as I can see, the details are correct. — Impi 14:01, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry - I missed your Current vs. Future distinction. Wizzy…☎ 16:51, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Ah, ok. I see where the confusion lay. No problem. Impi 19:49, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Digital freedom expo.

Looks interesting - at UWC 2007-04-19 if you're interested. -- Jeandré, 2007-04-12t09:31z

You need to pay to hear the key speakers ?

iCommons Free Culture Tour:

Cape Town ccSalon feat Jimmy Wales (founder of Wikipedia), Closet Snare Fri 20 Apr, 20h00 Armchair Theatre

Wikipedia Founder, Jimmy Wales and Creative Commons CEO, Larry Lessig will be in South Africa for a host of festivities to celebrate digital freedom in the country. Speaking at a number of events in Cape Town, Wales and Lessig will be encouraging local support of institutions like iCommons, the University of the Western Cape, the University of Cape Town and the Internet Society of South Africa in their efforts towards developing a culture of freedom on the local internet.

From: http://www.armchairtheatre.co.za/page.asp?page=gigs Scroll down to 20 April

Nigerian general elections

I don't know how much expertise I have in this area, but I can at least try to look out for vandalism and neutrality.--Cdogsimmons 17:48, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

2007 CD

See http://schools-wikipedia.org we are closing the gate on changes in 48 hours. It will be available on DVD with full images (3.5 GB) or as a download with thumbnails only. Are the shuttleworth foundation interested? The Wikimedia Foundation want to do a press release when we kick off and it would be nice to say anything if you intend to but look first. The search bit is the main outstanding improvement.

Talk to me! Happy to post to you guys of course. --BozMo talk 18:55, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

BozMo - fine job! Do I 'spider' the site, or is there a download link ? 48 hours is a little tight to get a response from TSF. I am very interested to see your search facility. What I want (and TSF) is content we can put on a website (local to the school, on their server) and browse. Does your search facility work in that scenario ? If you could post one to me, at this address, that would be great! Wizzy…☎ 19:47, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Wait 48 hours (please) and there'll be a link download for the zipped up thumbnail only version (there are still known errors to correct). But if you want the 3.5 GB version email me an address and I'll post it (in principle its free for anyone who turns up and asks). I would rather this than botting please (we have 500GB bandwidth so we don't get many at 3.5 GB a pop) The search we are still thinking about. Full text search ain't much use unless you have some algo for the more important links (there is a huge amount of text: I didn't like the Release version search). I think we are likely to go with a title and redirect index search only (like http://schools-wikipedia.org/wp/index/a.htm but prettier) not a content search. Actually the redirects seems to make it much better since it tends to include the common terms people are looking for (the current version has the redirect under the alt tag). On the disk anyway whatever we do will be static HTML pages. --BozMo talk 20:02, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Do post me a copy - address in link above. I think it should be a text search, of at least the first paragraph. It is too late, I know, but I think categories are also very useful/important. Wizzy…☎ 20:37, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Do though please look at http://schools-wikipedia.org/wp/index/subject.htm which is entirely designed to help people with school content. It works as a cat tree (so things are double listed). It matches school syllabus content.

PS can still add articles until tomorrow if there's anything you badly want in. --BozMo talk 20:08, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Ahrn Palley

When you get a chance please revert Beneaththelandslide's edit to Ahrn Palley.[3] The user has followed me onto that page from Rhodesian Front. Perspicacite 05:25, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

email

Wizzy thanks. My email on WP does work: other people use it all the time. The Torrent download has a problem I think (because people are struggling to unzip the file: size too big). I have put up a different compressed file but am doing a complete check through of download process before flagging it and I will post you the DVD whenever you want. Article size is definitely 4655. --BozMo talk 18:45, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

5462 might include redirected articles of course? --BozMo talk 18:45, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Zimbabwe

Hey, Mangwanani started a Zimbabwe WikiProject. If you are interested, please join us. Perspicacite 17:05, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! for the barnstar. Perspicacite 17:16, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Election notice: Your endorsement

Hi! You have endorsed one of the candidates in the current board elections. However, you have not provided a link from your local project (this one) to your user page on Meta, so we have no way of confirming that you are the same person. Please provide a link to Meta from your user page or user talk page to Meta, then reinstate your endorsement, which I struck and indented. If you like to have your user page in a certain way, you can do it in a diff, like this, but then you have to provide the link to the diff for us. Thank you for your cooperation! Jon Harald Søby 19:56, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

DRV for "Truth in Numbers: The Wikipedia Story"

Dear Wizzy, this upcoming Wikidocmentary film article is currently under discussion at Wikipedia:Deletion review on today, because a recent decision to retain it on Wikipedia has been appealed and it is in progress in reaching an ultimate consensus. You may wish to support for restoration by contributing it to the review. Since you had involved into it in regards to this upcoming Wikidocumentary film by Nic Hill, so please do help out and try not to hesitate to voice out your advocated opinion! Otherwise without you commenting about it, this article would never had existed. Pole Heinz Tower 14:31, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Me being involved in the film doesn't make it any more wiki-worthy, I am afraid. Just because the film is about wikipedia also doesn't make it more wiki-worthy, nor even the JW knows the film. I say wait until it is released. Wizzy…☎ 06:48, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Version 0.7, Cape Town, etc

Hi Andy, I tried sending an email but it bounced - is there a problem? Anyway, I was just wondering if you were still active on WP and interested in Version 0.7. I know a student who's been working at the University of Cape Town, and he was very interested in our work. Please get in touch. All the best, Walkerma 05:37, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Your message

Many thanks for that! I get a lot of satisfaction from contributing, but it was also good to receive your unexpected message & barnstar. Regards Rexparry sydney 02:21, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Chris Hani and Rhodes University

I'm afraid you were mistaken about Chris Hani and I have reverted the articles to previous edits. According to National Heritage Council, Africa Files and Chris Hani's biography on the South African Communist Party website [4] he was expelled from Fort Hare University and graduated from Rhodes University. --Cazo3788 16:10, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Great. I think it would be better if you added those references first to the Chris Hani article - as I thought you were suggesting that Fort Hare graduates become Rhodes grads. Wizzy…☎ 16:17, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Pius Ncube

Hello. I saw that you edited the Pius Ncube article. I only recently discovered it, via Portal:Current events. I think that, with some referencing and cleanup, it could become a Good Article. What do you think? --Agüeybaná 20:43, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

I am afraid I just maintain my watchlist at the moment, and don't have the time to do GA. Wizzy…☎ 08:43, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

That's OK :-) Happy editing! --Agüeybaná 20:04, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Salisbury redirects

I appreciate your comments, and the fact that you think the redirect should point at Salisbury, UK - not to Harare. I do however think my comments should remain, if someone is claiming that I have been using expletives and I am breaking various wikipedia rules, then I feel I should at least put my side of it, otherwise people will assume, that all I have been doing is insulting the editor, without making any attempts to discuss the issue. I dont want people to think Ive been saying things along the lines of 'change the fu***ng redirect, you idiot' when I did try very hard to discuss this with him.

Out of respect, I will not put the comments back in, without waiting for a response from you, if there is a good reason, as to why I shouldnt put the comments in there again, of course I am more than willing to listen to your opinion.

Right now, I feel my comments should go back, but then again, my opinion is not always 100% perfect, so lets wait and see. thanks Sennen goroshi 07:37, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Your comments probably should go back. Perspicacite has been a good contributor to Zimbabwe-related pages (which is how I know him/her) and I am keen that he remain so. If you are concerned, maybe a middle road is to note the edit somewhere. Life is short, and there are better things to do than get into disputes in cyberspace. Wizzy…☎ 08:16, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

I will re-write my concerns, in a manner that seems a little less aggresive. I can say exactly what I want to, but maybe using a little tact and diplomacy would be nice.Sennen goroshi 08:41, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Wiktionary on Plucker Format?

Hi, Is there any efforts made to make Wiktionary (or even other wiki projects) converted to Plucker Format? PS: Thanks for your great work on Wikipeadia 06 on Plucker format, work great on my Windows Mobile 5.2 Treo with VadeMecum viewer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.168.201.105 (talk) 09:04, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Snoqualmie Pass photo

The photo you added to the Snoqualmie Pass page is nice, but I do not believe it is actually from Snoqualmie Pass. There are 2 major problems with this to be a SP photo. First, the railroad tracks shown on the photo are below the road. The Milwaukee Road rail lines were never located near the road anywhere on Snoqualmie Pass, especially below the road. Also the lack of trees makes this photo appear to be taken in Eastern WA, possibly near Ellensburg. It might be a photo on Highway 10 'on the way to' Snoqualmie Pass, but it could not have been taken on Snoqualmie Pass. Mrhyak 14:53, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

I have never been there. The credit for the picture says :- Vehicles line up on the ascent to Snoqualmie Pass in 1946. Photograph by a Seattle Post-Intelligencer photographer, donated to the Museum of History and Industry in Seattle, and provided by the University of Washington Digital Collections. Perhaps check with them ? I found it in Commons - I will not object if you remove it. Wizzy…☎ 18:04, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

419 debate at Nigeria

You know, how can I get Aji to stop the massive dumps of text - his comments are hard to read through... and IMO I feel they are not necessarily long... more like long for long's sake. BTW he disputes what you are saying. Some anon signed up, but I don't know if it is Aji or someone else. WhisperToMe (talk) 00:29, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Please note the following:

1. My comments are not intentionally long. I have merely taken the effort to clearly state my reasoning in order to minimise the very back and forth that has occurred here. If you take the time to read them, hopefully you would understand that.
2. The anon is someone else - I object to the implication that I would use an anonymous entry to support, what I feel, is a clearly articulated, and strong argument. Ajisekanla (talk) 17:00, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

I am sorry if I implied it was a sockpuppet. That was not my intention. Wizzy…☎ 10:26, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

• Thanks for you contribution. I have responded to your comments and think your response would be helpful in resolving this issue. Ajisekanla (talk) 10:16, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Hello

Hello... Nice contributions, leave me a message! --The lil lady with the hat 20:45, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Next big update on Schools Wikipedia

Will be the end of April. Any particular requests? We are including a tour bus feature to try to improve interest for children

--BozMo talk 13:12, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Am happy to go with your selection. I mentioned it at my blog - http://blog.wizzy.com/ too - Habeni Primary. Wizzy…☎ 16:32, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

References

You wrote this in an edit summary: "http://allafrica.com/stories/200804110823.html - I am not putting ref in page because allafrica expires news to its pay site" Please put references like this regardless of whether they will become pay-only after a length of time. A reference is still a reference even if there's a barrier to access; it is likewise perfectly acceptable to cite off-line books and journals. Any kind of reference is better than no reference at all (however, if a more accessible reference can be found, it should be used instead, or in addition). Everyking (talk) 20:32, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Please take the time to rewrite the info you add from references; it's a copyvio to just copy-paste. I think maybe you do change it somewhat sometimes, but a lot of sentences seem to be taken verbatim from the source. Otherwise, I appreciate your help on the election article. Everyking (talk) 03:44, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

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Shaka#Shaka in Zulu culture

Hi, Wizzy. Thanks so much for spotting the inadvertent pong among my 'consistency' edits! Because the article is quite long, I became harried into going on and on, and then having to rush. It's a great article, but a pity it's marred by lack of proper citations. Cheers Bjenks (talk) 21:58, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Mzoli Ngcawuzele

A tag has been placed on Mzoli Ngcawuzele requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a company or corporation, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for companies and corporations.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. andy (talk) 11:52, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Re:Nigeria

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Photo request

Hi, I'd like to ask you to do something if it is possible. The Spirit of Mystery is currently docked in Cape Town and I need someone to take a photograph of it and upload it to Wikipedia so that it can be used in the article. I did post a request at WP:SAFRICA but have had no response there. Don't worry if you are unable to do this for any reason, it's not a big thing. Mjroots (talk) 19:32, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Fatima Hajaig

Her comments talk about Jews! Where in the quote or the recording is the word Zionist????

Not all Jews are Zionists, so why use the headline "Comments about Zionists."

I used that because in her (lame) apology, she said that is what she meant. Wizzy…☎ 15:02, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Every the foreign minister realised she was talking about Jews...hence her condemnation.

Maybe you arent up to speed on World War II, but her comments are EXACTLY the same as is documented in just about every history book about the Nazi view of Jews. I can cite any one of thousands of these books if you wish to transpose her comments to the Nazi era.

Besides which, why else would the Sunday Times say "Heil Hajaig!?" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Qwerty084 (talk • contribs) 14:48, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Read WP:LIVING - it is very important in this case. You are making the connection between what she said and Goebbels, you can't do that, it is called WP:OR. I don't know why the Sunday Times say "Heil Hajaig!" - its not my problem. You are not going to make Hajaig any muddier by throwing in Nazi references, it just makes you/us look like idiots. Just the facts, Ma'am. And - BTW - well done finding that December meeting comment - that was good. Wizzy…☎ 15:01, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Tx!