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Those stupid bastards commenting on the complaints page will probably think I'm you. Let them. They are a bunch of morons. Keep up the good work. I notice loads of those republican gits have now either retired or been topic banned. I assume you've also noticed this. Mo ainm - it's obvious who he was and I take it you know by now. I'd also look very closely at One Night In Hackney. Its quite clear who he used to be as well. Somewhere in there is Wikipiere. [[User:Carnival Fred|Carnival Fred]] ([[User talk:Carnival Fred|talk]]) 15:55, 17 September 2012 (UTC) |
Those stupid bastards commenting on the complaints page will probably think I'm you. Let them. They are a bunch of morons. Keep up the good work. I notice loads of those republican gits have now either retired or been topic banned. I assume you've also noticed this. Mo ainm - it's obvious who he was and I take it you know by now. I'd also look very closely at One Night In Hackney. Its quite clear who he used to be as well. Somewhere in there is Wikipiere. [[User:Carnival Fred|Carnival Fred]] ([[User talk:Carnival Fred|talk]]) 15:55, 17 September 2012 (UTC) |
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::Hey Facto, I'd leave that AN/I page alone if I were you. It just attracts baiting trolls like Baseball and Cailil. They are determined to nail you one way or another, as are several other bastards, so just ignore them and don't give them the chance. Concentrate on putting solid arguments towards removing Irish republican POV, which presently pervades many articles. [[User:Fred Carnival|Fred Carnival]] ([[User talk:Fred Carnival|talk]]) 13:03, 18 September 2012 (UTC) |
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As you have been told already, the city is known as Derry on Wikipedia. O Fenian (talk) 10:06, 13 September 2010 (UTC) Please read WP:IMOS, which clearly states we must say Derry for the City and Londonderry for the County. BritishWatcher (talk) 11:03, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
Replying to your email:
And also Mick McCarthy is born and bred in England and currently holds a British passport. Why is he still considered Irish? Is it necessary to include and Irish translation for the Airport? really? there as many chinesse speakers in Northern Ireland as there are fluent Irish speakers yet there is not inclusion of a chineese translation.
GED, it is unfortunate that the Derry/Londonderry can not be resolved where a middle ground can be found. Would it be possible for me to set up a page for Londonderry to run in parallel with the Derry page? Also, by general consensus, if i get enough people to agree, is it ok if I change Russia back to USSR much the same as people have changed Londonderry back to derry?Factocop (talk) 13:44, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
Can you tell me how to lock a page as I have made some changes to other pages that keep on getting changed?
I have raised the topics in the relevant discussion forums but as yet the people who keep changing my edits have not responded but rather reported me for disagreeing. I don't think the Derry issue will be resolved as general consensus of a few over rules fact. Irish translations used un necessarily. As many people speak chineese in NI as they do Irish yet no chinesse or ulster scots translation. Your recent edits
I have raised topics in various discussion boards but the people who have blocked me have yet to speak to me. Edit-warringI have reported your edit-warring to the appropriate administrators. Lithistman (talk) 16:30, 13 September 2010 (UTC) I don't understand why you have reported me. I changed Mick McCarthy's nationality to English because he is english. Did you also report yourself because your were also involved in making edits. I noticed this about wikipedia, in that if someone has a disagreement, rather than discuss, you just report them instead. Shame really!Factocop (talk) 16:42, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
That is not true. You have not reached out to me to discuss. I started a thread on the discussion board. No one has presented me with any facts that Mick McCarthy still holds an Irish passport. I have noticed that wikipedia is run by clique's of people who share the same opinion and prefer to ignore fact.I am new to wiki so not sure how to report people but it seems that I will dismiss dialogue in much the same fashion as you have and just report you.Factocop (talk) 16:50, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
So are you telling me that on his passport it has details of his actual nationality and then his footballing nationality? In another argument, Londonderry is called Derry, not factual but based on general consensus. And based on general consensus, Mick McCarthy is considered English. Can you prove that he still has an Irish passport?Factocop (talk) 08:10, 14 September 2010 (UTC) City of Derry Airport - Edit warringThis airport is an airport in Ireland, and is in line with other Irish airports. An airport is a significant location. And you say you've changed the location. No you've just removed that it serves Derry. You have a complete dislike of the term Derry which is evident! It's good for you that someone with very similar views flagged this up... and blocked it in your vandalised state. It will be duly reverted.--NorthernCounties (talk) 17:48, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
 {{unblock|Your reason here}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. SarekOfVulcan (talk) 17:57, 13 September 2010 (UTC)Im sorry but I changed the location it serves to County Londonderry and Donegal but I don't think it came up. I think to say that it serves only Derry is wrong! Why does Belfast City or Belfast International not have an Irish Translation? Why is there no Ulster Scots translation?Factocop (talk) 08:12, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
 Factocop (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log)) Request reason: The changes I made were factual and necessary given that some of the comments were not in keeping with similar articles. I removed the Irish translation from the title of City of Derry Airport. It was un necessary considering that the other major airports in Northern Ireland do not have an Irish Translation. If those who had made complaints about me and sought to make it a neutral page they would of either left the page as it is following my edits or included an ulster scots translation as well, a language largely spoken by the Protestant community. I did open a discussion but given that there was no credible argument to my edits I was simply blocked. Decline reason: No matter how convinced you are that your view is The Correct View, edit warring to impose your view is not acceptable. JamesBWatson (talk) 12:55, 14 September 2010 (UTC) If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
Factocop (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log)) Request reason: Can you suggest how I can have people enter a discussion rather than edit my changes and then block me? Did you also block O Fenian for his edit-warring? didn't think so. Decline reason: This does not appear to be an unblock request; please focus on your own actions. Kuru (talk) 15:13, 14 September 2010 (UTC) If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked. O Fenian reverted 3 times, and stopped. You reverted either 4 or 5 times, depending on whether that first edit is counted as a revert or not.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 14:26, 14 September 2010 (UTC) SarekofVulcan, why did you not enter the discussion I setup after you reverted my change? I thought that making 3 repititive changes in the space of 24hrs was considered edit- warring? I did make a valid point but no one has been able to offer an argument. why is there not an ulster scots translation along side every irish translation. It seems only fair?Factocop (talk) 14:48, 14 September 2010 (UTC) AGF
I understand, but my back was against the wall. I was out numbered really. I did raise discussion but nobody responded and then I got blocked. I have no faith in the system. Factocop (talk) 10:36, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
It was not an attitude, just an observation. I made a 6 reverts against 3 people who made 2 reverts each. I have read on their pages that there is need for a united front. SO it is not me that has turned this into a battle. I'm sorry if I have caused you any offense but some of the edits I made seemed pretty fair and in absense of a discussion what Im I to do?Factocop (talk) 10:47, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
We'll im pretty sure I wasn't editing and reverting against myself. But i think in this case I have come up against a clique so I was always going to get blocked. Should I raise the suggestion first in the discussion channel and then if nobody comments within a day I can make an edit?Factocop (talk) 10:59, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
VirtualRevolution, you need to relax. I've not mentioned any names and hence have not accused anyone. Can you answer my question please? Should I raise the suggestion first in the discussion channel and then if nobody comments within a day I can make an edit?Factocop (talk) 11:19, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
No need for the attitute. I just asked you a simple question. ashame really!Factocop (talk) 11:43, 15 September 2010 (UTC) KearnsGotta warn you, as soon as the WP:FOOTY people get hold of that article, it's toast. :-) Also, I could {{prod blp}} it right now -- better get at least one source from http://news.google.com/. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 16:12, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Well Sarek, if you read the comments, i was deemed politically immature. That doesnt sound like an attempt at community building? does it? I'm assuming a similar message has been left on the board of NorthernCounties? Why was he not blocked for editing the City of Derry Airport page before consensus was made? Factocop (talk) 11:56, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
To be fair I was always likely to be blocked given that my edits were being monitored by 3 other users who made reverts to my changes. But that uisn't my point. my point was that the comment you removed was equally as bad as being deemed politically immature. is it not? I raised the discussion on the city of Derry airport and posed questions that have yet to be answered. So for NC to make changes before a consensus had been reached didnt seem to be the correct process, but again i'm new to wiki so ill leave it for now.Factocop (talk) 12:09, 16 September 2010 (UTC) RespectIf you don't respect other editors enough to even respect their names, and you simply repeat your old opinions rather than seek progress towards a consensus, and moan about the principle of building that consensus, while ignoring advice; and then startapproaching others to repeat the whole whinge, then Wikipedia is not the place for you. Kevin McE (talk) 17:07, 19 September 2010 (UTC) Kev, I guess an adequate response would be to ignore your response and simply delete it so I suggest you change the record. You have a habit of looking over my shoulder and disagreeing with every point I have made. That is not exactly progressive. Every point I have made has been met with a series of attacks all because I value fact over consensus, especially a consensus that is generated by a clique of people who patrol particular pages. Consensus is worthly unless it is found by an unbiased jury, but as wikipedia is largely made up of contributions from users of unknown allegences or agendas I don't see how this could be seen as fair representation. So please do not preach of principles to me when you have shown no manner of decorem. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and by definition should contain facts. If you wish to ignores facts then wikipedia is not the place for you.Please close your account and get a life.Factocop (talk) 17:47, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
barmbleclawx, apologies but given the attacks I have come under I would expect to see a similar warning on Kevin McE's page?Factocop (talk) 18:12, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
NorthernCounties, It really is hard to find a link to discussions that have been deleted by yourself, O Fenian and Kevin McE, but I would suggest reading through your posts on everything Derry/Londonderry suggesting that I was 'politically sinister' before pointing the finger. You seem to disappear whenever a discussion doesnt go your way and then just like in this case join a discussion that has nothing to do with you and with no relevant point to make. I suggest you find that box again. And Kevin McE, you deleted our last discussion and then started a new one on my userpage. why? I distinctly remember you calling me 'politically immature'. You quote the rules and talk of respect when your handling of decorem is sadly lacking. This is a joke! but thankfully, I'm laughing.Factocop (talk) 08:48, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
NC suggests that there is an issue with my maturity - http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Talk:City_of_Derry_Airport#Irish_Translation.Factocop (talk) 09:29, 20 September 2010 (UTC) The silence is deafening! NorthernCounties, you seem to have a warning on your userpage for attacking other wiki editors. Care to explain? Pot, Kettle and Black spring to mind.Factocop (talk) 11:34, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Well after our last discussion on 'the City of derry airport' page you disappeared for 3 days. However I am glad to hear that you have changed your ways following your warning for attacks on myself and that you have stopped the gathering of support on other users pages to have me muted. I don't see how using the words 'Pot, Kettle and Black' would undermine my argument but anyway this is a discussion between myself and Kevin McE where 3 people not involved decided to jump in.Factocop (talk) 12:28, 20 September 2010 (UTC) EglintonYour views would be appreciated here Eglinton, County Londonderry --84.93.157.59 (talk) 07:43, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Shows how little you know! --84.93.157.59 (talk) 09:37, 22 September 2010 (UTC) It seems NorthernCounties is no stranger to controversy himself. --87.113.24.44 (talk) 11:26, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Seems according to the usual pro Republican suspects O Fenian, NorthernCounties, Asarlaí and Bjmullan your are a sockpuppet now? [1] How are these people ever allowed to edit? --87.113.24.44 (talk) 15:24, 23 September 2010 (UTC) I have noticed that there is a clique of editors of particular persuasion that patrol certain pages and in some cases fact can be ignored and replaced with the consensus of a few that seem to out number those of us with a sensible argument. But given that I am equally as anal as those who oppose me, I can not complain. You must remember that there is more than one way to skin a cat and in absence of a good argument, those you speak of generally seem to disappear and return without an argument and simply quote rule after rule. its annoying and incredibly patronising but I have become Immune to it now.Factocop (talk) 16:31, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Falsification of the facts certainly isn't an improvement and brings the project into ridicule. Your obvious resentment at the term Republican clique only goes to justify it. Political activist would be closer to the mark possibly. Couldn't win the war so now resort to propaganda...hmmnnnnn--87.113.26.186 (talk) 07:25, 24 September 2010 (UTC) Seen this Abuse at City of Derry Airport? --87.113.26.186 (talk) 09:31, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
sockpuppet claimsI've been obseving this for a while and I think I ought to add my imput. Just because O Fenian and NorthernCounties edit in similar ways it doesn't mean they are the same person. Accusing them of being one and the same is quite a serious allegation. Can you prove it by matching up the edit contributions? If you can't find any evidence that they haven't edited at the same time, then your accusation does look a bit thin on the ground as a claim. The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 12:01, 24 September 2010 (UTC) Well God, I didn't think I needed evidence given that the same accusation had been made in my direction by both NorthernCounties and Asarlaí? Obviously you have not been observing this too closely or else you would of placed a similar warning on the discussion pages of my accusers.Factocop (talk) 12:10, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
NC, I have provided as much evidence as yourself and Asa have with regards to the accusations you have made towards me, so I don't see why you feel the need to comment on this. Strange really. Now back in your box like a good little sock puppet.Factocop (talk) 12:38, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
NC/O Fenian/Asa or whatever your name is ... I am shocked. I can't believe that someone with in wiki community would make such an accusation. Can you prove that I am a sock? You were first to make the accusation so ill let you plead your case first. manners and all that!Factocop (talk) 12:48, 24 September 2010 (UTC) Its gone awfully quiet again. NC, this is the usual routine, in absence of an argument, you just disappear.Factocop (talk) 14:38, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. O Fenian (talk) 16:29, 24 September 2010 (UTC) {{unblock|Your reason here}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. SarekOfVulcan (talk) 16:36, 24 September 2010 (UTC)Factocop (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log)) Request reason: Sarek, I apologise perfusely given that no amount of editing on wikipedia can be described as terrorism. Obviously I was not aware that such a claim would be deamed a crime given that accusations of sockpuppetry and edit warring had gone unpunished. Apologise Decline reason: While I really appreciate the apology, that was an extremely nasty thing to say, especially in the context of Northern Ireland. 24 hours is a very lenient block for such behavior, especially given your previous record. Please use the time to ponder upon how you can work better with other people when you return, as this is a collaborative project. John (talk) 16:55, 24 September 2010 (UTC) If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
Indefinite {{unblock|Your reason here}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. --Cailil talk 18:16, 24 September 2010 (UTC) Factocop (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log)) Request reason: This is a tad rediculous. I am not and never have been The_Maiden_City. I have been accused of sock puppetry by a clique of wiki users who disagree with my opionion. I am not aware of The_Maiden_City's history but it seems that unfounded accusations of sock puppetry can be banded around so freely. Just because 2 wiki accounts side in a particular way in a discussion does not mean they are the same person. Is it just a coincidence that NorthernCounties and O Fenian seem to back up each others argument on the same topics everytime...do I hear shouts of Sockpuppetry. No. Silence. Wikipedia is not a community if its use can be dictated by a few close minded users. Please can you present evidence that I am using multiple accounts or unblock me. Can I assume my accusers will be blocked for lack of evidence? Decline reason: (First of all, I am completely ignoring the accusations of others, which are irrelevant: see WP:NOTTHEM.) It is perfectly clear that you have abused more than one account. I have looked extensively at the evidence, and it goes way beyond "Just because 2 wiki accounts side in a particular way in a discussion". Whether or not The Maiden City is one of the accounts you have used really doesn't matter. Finally, your editing has been disruptive enough to justify the block anyway, irrespective of the sockpuppetry issue. JamesBWatson (talk) 10:12, 27 September 2010 (UTC) If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
God, you have been of no help. You gave me a warning for accusing a clique of users of sockpuppetry yet when they made the same accusations towards me you were a mute! I am very annoyed that this clique can go page to page changing anything they wish, make accusations of sockpuppetry, edit-warring and vandalism while you stand back and watch.
God, given that I have been accused of having an account 'The_Maiden_City' which I believe is currently blocked I don't see how my accusers have made comparisons in contributions and times?It is a bit tedious to troll through dozens of discussions to find contributions and timings but where do I post my findings?Factocop (talk) 08:59, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
I had been accused on various discussions as being a reincarnate of The_Maiden_City but I am currently reading the case against me. And no I am not and never have been Blue_is_better.Factocop (talk) 09:13, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
I can't post anything as I am blocked. Claims of my sockpuppetry have been posted on the archived thread of The_Maiden_City but I have been accused of being a sockpuppet of Blue_is_better. 4 users have spent a great deal of time to get me blocked so I am really up against it. According to my accusers Northern Ireland is no longer a country but a region.Check Giant's Causeway page if you don't believe me. This really is ridiculous.Factocop (talk) 09:27, 27 September 2010 (UTC) I can't even plead my case as it was closed before I was able to make a contribution.Factocop (talk) 09:33, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
I am not sure how the CU works either, I am not even sure who to email or how I can get their email. Can you help Virtual? I am not familiar with Blue_is_better as we have not commented on the same thread and given that he is blocked, I can't even see what they were discussing on. I'm guessing they had a difference in opinion to certain people. I am not a sockpuppet and find this very disturbing that my case can be opened and closed so quickly without my input.One of the arguments against me was that I used 'pot kettle black' and the unregistered ip used the phrase 'people in glass houses...'. 2 phrases used the world over. Another argument was that blue_is_better has commented on 2 out of the 15 pages i have commented on. ooohhhhh!The arguments against me are thread bare. A joke! Any help Vitural would be great.Factocop (talk) 09:45, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
I have sent an email to the Arb Committee so hopefully they don't get too many requests like my own. I only started my account because I was reading on wiki and wanted to edit. I am not completely sure of the rules and regulations so I am hoping this will be resolved. I am not sure how the CheckUser works but it must be broken as I have never ever used another account, ever. Levenboy has also been blocked. It seems that someone shares an opinion with someone else then they can be accused of sockpuppetry and blocked without trial. Mo Aimn, O Fenian, NorthernCounties, ~Asarlaí and Mabuska have formed a strong alliance of opinion so it is very difficult to make edits without being accused of being disruptive by either one of them.I will just have to wait and see.Factocop (talk) 10:38, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
Factocop (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log)) Request reason: My edits have not been disruptive, they have been factual. On all the edits I have made, I have started discussion, unfortunately those who disagree with me have sought to have me muted rather than provide valid arguments. A spate of blocking has taken place based on 3 wiki pages - Eglinton, County Londonderry, City of Derry Airport and Giants Causeway. Please read and tell me how I have been disruptive Decline reason: This unblock request does not even attempt to address the reason for the unblock. In addition, both the checkuser evidence and the behavioural evidence indicate sockpuppetry. JamesBWatson (talk) 14:05, 27 September 2010 (UTC) If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked. You dont seem to be listening to me or the admins, you were not blocked for the edits you made but for sockpuppetry, and again you have listed a group of editors as some kind of defense, what they do or say is not relevant to what you do or say you are responsible for your own actions. Stop with the unblock requests as an admin will remove your talk page access if you keep using the unblock template and email the blocking admin and he will explain the CU process and how the concliusion was reached that you and Blue is better are the same person. VirtualRevolution (talk) 10:51, 27 September 2010 (UTC) I don't understand this process. Who is my blocking admin?Factocop (talk) 10:53, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
Thanks TFOWR, I have emailed Cailil as the CheckUser is broken or something is very wrong. All of the other evidence is thread bare to be honest. Can I ask why I was unable to contribute to the case against me before it was closed?Factocop (talk) 11:03, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
I generally only edit during the week when I am at work so the case was open and closed over the weekend when I was unable to contribute. The behavioural evidence is weak I feel other than some posts that occurred around the same time by myself and another user which was purely coincidental. The CheckUser obviously is not working or is not without its faults as I have never used another account. I will fight this out to the end.Factocop (talk) 11:17, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
I have notified the blocking admin of your claims the CU is broken, im sure they will comment when they see the note. VirtualRevolution (talk) 11:24, 27 September 2010 (UTC) O Fenian, well given that I was unaware of the extent or the nature of the investigation how was I to know. I was blocked for 24hrs for insulting you which I apologised for. I was not aware of the blocking for sock puppeting until this morning when I came to work. That is true!Factocop (talk) 11:27, 27 September 2010 (UTC) Message recievedI got your email. I have reviewed the checkuser result again[2] and their statement is unambiguous - User:Blue is better and this account are 'confirmed' as sockpuppets. Checkuser examines the IP addresses "beneath" or "behind" usernames and cross checks them. There are levels of matches - 'possible', 'likely' and 'confirmed' (which is the highest level of match)--Cailil talk 12:54, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
IP address has been temporarily restricted. This is probably due to persistent vandalism from the IP address you are editing from, which may be shared by many people if you are connected to the Internet via a proxy server (used by most schools and corporations and some Internet service providers) or dial-up access. Could the User:Blue_is_better be within my company and hence why the CheckUser is matching me to this user?Factocop (talk) 15:43, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
Well given that I work for a company that emloys 141'000 people around the world it not entirely impossible. Don't assume NorthernCounties, that if more than one person disagrees with you and your clique that they are the same person. And yes another cheap shot but something I have come to expect.Factocop (talk) 16:26, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
Telling you to get back in your box was not a cheap shot, just a suggestion. And given that many of yours arguments were pretty feeble, can you blame me? You have a number of people supporting you in many of the same arguments so I can sympathise with anyone who has created a sock to stop the bullying but I have never been The_Maiden_City nor Blue_is_better.Factocop (talk) 16:41, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
Hi Cailil, that isnt much of a warning, considering I am completed disabled. Have you checked CheckUser again? I still dispute that I was ever Blue_is_better. Also I did set up a sock NI4Life to try and raise a sock puppet investigation but it was dismissed as I used a sock. Can you raise an investigation against NorthernCounties, O Fenian, Mabuska, Bjmullan, SarekofVulcan and Mo ainm as so far this clique has avoided investigation by having people blocked for disruption, vandalism and the usual petty crap that they complain of. Thankyou.Factocop (talk) 08:26, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
God, I understand this but it is very suspicious that all seem to exist purely to back each other up in discussions. The first Sockpuppet investigation I was involved in had me accused of being 8 different ip addresses none of which matched. So can you raise a sock puppet investigation against these 6 or very soon Northern Ireland will cease to exist in the realms of wikipedia. I still dispute that I was ever Blue_is_better but do confess to opening 2 new accounts since my blocking - NI4Life and Pilgrimsquest. I had no real choice given that I was blocked without being able to present an argument. I say again that I was never Blue_is_better and there is something very wrong with the CheckUser if thinks I have ever held this account. It obviously doesnt take into account that there are more internet users than IP addresses in the world and given that I work in a company of 141000 people there are always going to be dupicate ip addresses and shared servers. God, can you tell me what discussions Blue_is_better edited on as I am unaware of their activity?Factocop (talk) 09:19, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
Sockpuppet??Heres my opinion on the sockpuppetry case that appears to have been filed by you. Offensive and laughable at the same time. Mabuska (talk) 09:25, 28 September 2010 (UTC) Mabuska, the sock puppet investigations are not ment to be offensive so please don't cry....You have not exactly been helpful in any of the discussions I have been involved in. Playing Devil's advocate and sitting on the fence is of no use to anyone. I noticed you contributed to my investigation. I dont think I am anymore extreme than those who oppose me so wise up. I was accused of being The_Maiden_City and several other IP addresses. I have never been Blue_is_better and we have never commented on the same discussions so I am not sure of the link but given that I share a server with 141000 other people the checkuser is not going to be accurate! I have become frustrated that for an encyclopedia, fact doesn't carry much weight. And when fact is disputed a clique of nationalist persuasion seem to outnumber a counter argument while you do nothing. And I was unable to dispute my case given that it was closed before I could contribute.A joke! can you tell me where Blue_is_better edited?Factocop (talk) 09:47, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
TFOWR, no I am not confused, but thanks for the concern. Are you going to help me? I have listed the names of 6 users who I think should be investigated. Are you going to do anything about that?Factocop (talk) 09:54, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
It is not my job to be helpful - its my job to do my best at keeping a balance between both opinions on thorny issues. If you had a case on the Eglinton talk page i'd have backed your corner no problems. You didn't have a case and wanted to plow on through the agreed conventions in place to prevent people imposing one viewpoint over another. Mabuska (talk) 09:58, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
RIRAIt appears that O Fenian is engaged in a concerted attempt to censor information relating to convicted terrorists and in particular, the self-confessed former second in command of the RIRA. O Fenian's motives are somewhat obvious since he has consistently edited articles in favour of Republican terrorists. I have no doubt that his conduct is contrary to Wikipedia policy on naming such terrorists given that several reliable sources have been given. --87.114.85.253 (talk) 10:50, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
UnblockYour account should now be unblocked; thank you for your patience while we looked into this issue. Note to others: After some investigation into the circumstances surrounding the block, it appears that there is another person near Factocop who is creating multiple accounts and editing in a problematic way. The checkuser wasn't incorrect per se, however private evidence indicates that this account is not run by the person who's been causing problems from this range. Please feel free to email me if you have any questions. Shell babelfish 19:49, 20 October 2010 (UTC) Thankyou Shell so much. Huge relief to have my name cleared.Thankyou again.Factocop (talk) 10:04, 21 October 2010 (UTC) Edit warringStraight back from a block and leaping into edit warring on multiple articles? If you're trying for the shortest unblock on record, I think you're already too late. :-) --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 12:47, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Obviously I am not guilty of edit-warring given that I attempted to resolve the issue with discussion. And ill ignore any further concerns you have given your recent lack of judgement on other discussions.Factocop (talk) 14:05, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Don't worry, just found this topic a tad patronising in light of Sarek's recent behaviour.Factocop (talk) 22:51, 22 October 2010 (UTC) Contae DhoirePlease stop removing the Irish translation for County Londonderry. If you are unsure why the translation is Contae Dhoire then please bring your concerns to the talk page. Thank you. Bjmullan (talk) 19:17, 27 October 2010 (UTC) I have posted questions and concerns but as yet you or anyone else has been able to answer them.Factocop (talk) 19:24, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
October 2010{{unblock|Your reason here}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. SarekOfVulcan (talk) 18:14, 28 October 2010 (UTC)Hi facto! There's something wrong here. The blocking admin was also a party to the so called edit war, and the reverts took place over an extended period. Its also apparent that tag teaming was taking place to revert your edit. No other party has even been warned, let alone blocked. I can't explain this, but you should appeal (it won't do any good, but on principle you should try). LemonMonday Talk 18:21, 28 October 2010 (UTC) Factocop (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log)) Request reason: I am not sure what I have done wrong here. I have made 3 reversions over a period of 7 days. Guilty! I have raised a discussion on the topic but as yet those who oppose my editing have yet to either join the discussion or answer the questions I have posted. What am I to do? And given that the admin who blocked me has 1) recently been involved in a petty spat with myself, and 2)has been involved in an investigation for unjust blocking maybe highlights why I should be unblocked. And strangely I am the only user to be blocked. Please can I be unblocked and the blocking admin investigated further. Thank youFactocop (talk) 18:36, 28 October 2010 (UTC) Decline reason: I have consulted the blocking admin on this. It is clear that, although the amount of reverting you have done recently has been small, it has been part of a longer trend, and, although you have taken part in discussion on the talk page, you have done so in a spirit of proving you are right, rather than with a readiness to reach agreement. I will also give you a word of advice for any future unblock requests. Consider WP:NOTTHEM. Failure to do so does not tend to encourage admins to look kindly on block requests. JamesBWatson (talk) 20:22, 28 October 2010 (UTC) If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
Though I'm not at all familiar with this situation, a few facts I'd like to point out. One is that edit warring is not necessarily making >3 edits a day, even if the reverse is true. WP:3RR is merely a "bright line rule" for what unquestionably IS edit warring; it isn't the sole defining criterion. Repeating the same reversion over and over is still edit warring, even if it occurs over an extended period. The other is that the blocking or lack thereof of other individuals is rarely, if ever, relevant to any given case of a block. See WP:NOTTHEM. In short, whether or not other people are punished has no bearing on what you did or didn't do. I do understand you're arguing you weren't edit warring here, and I'm not saying bringing up that other "edit warriors" were not punished nullifies your central argument. I do count two identical reversions of changes to your edit, but whether that constitutes an edit war is rather relative. I think it would be somewhat on the low end of the spectrum, if I'm not overlooking something. - Vianello (Talk) 19:42, 28 October 2010 (UTC) I didnt mention the 3RR. I simply mentioned that in total I had made 3 edits...anyway it seems that I can only set up a discussion according to JamesBWatson with the intent of proving myself wrong? Very strange that Sarek chose to block only me in this so called edit-war? Unfortunately when I raised a discussion those who opposed me chose not to join the discussion, or simply ignore my questions. It seems the only way to get any ones attention is to make an edit or revision.A very unjust block and I will be reporting both admins.Factocop (talk) 08:14, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Just seen that Sarek has blocked NorthernCounties for editing on a page that I have been editing on. He failed to join the discussion and made a revision without consensus. Blocked for 24hrs. I raised a discussion and made a revision when those who opposed me refused to join discussion...and I get 48hrs block. Doesnt make sense?Factocop (talk) 09:24, 29 October 2010 (UTC) Factocop (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log)) Request reason: Unjust block by Sarekof Vulcan. Blocked for 3 edits in 7 days and raising a discussion on the topic but those who opposed my edits failed to join discussion. This block does not make sense Decline reason: Procedural decline: block is no longer done by SarekofVulcan - block is for a slow edit-war, as per block log (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:23, 29 October 2010 (UTC) If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked. It is clear from the history that you were edit-warring. However, it is also clear that per WP:UNINVOLVED, SarekOfVulcan should not have blocked you because they were engaged in the dispute with you as an editor, [3]. I am asking SarekOfVulcan to comment before undoing the block. Sandstein 09:39, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
failse info?Factocop (talk) 10:21, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Here is what I mean by opposition - SarekofVulcanm, NorthernCounties, O_Fenian, Djegan and Bjmullan were the 5 users who reverted my edits. But only 3 of these joined the discussion but none of them were able to answer my questions or made contructive contributions except for Bjmullan who did answers my questions but by that stage I had been blocked. O_Fenian's contribution was to say 'there was no rationale for the change' - Thats not really contructive? And Djegan simply qouted the 3RR even though I was not in breach of this rule.Factocop (talk) 10:32, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
You used those words in the reason for reversion. Your previous posts were not really contructive and you refused to move on the topic or answer my questions. Also O_Fenian please be careful with your sock puppetry accusations. I was blocked for a considerable time due to unfounded accusations made by you and your friends ... and all because I didnt agree with your anti-british, anti-Northern Ireland campaign.Factocop (talk) 10:40, 29 October 2010 (UTC) "You used those words in the reason for reversion" - where exactly? You are a self-confessed abusive sockpuppeteer by your own admission, the links prove it. Speaking of "unfounded accusations", how about a diff where I ever said you were Blue is better prior to your original block? I bet you cannot provide one, so kindly retract your false accusation. O Fenian (talk) 10:44, 29 October 2010 (UTC) You accused me of being The_Maiden_City. Where is my apology?Factocop (talk) 10:48, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
O_Fenian, here are the 2 discussion contributuions you made before my block:- There is no Irish name for County Londonderry, and no valid rationale for removal of the native name. O Fenian (talk) 09:52, 22 October 2010 (UTC) You will find that Irish is an official language of Northern Ireland, and is used by the Northern Ireland Assembly. English is not an official language of Northern Ireland, for the record. O Fenian (talk) 17:00, 22 October 2010 (UTC) Would you really deem these contructive?Factocop (talk) 10:51, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Your right, so O_Fenian. Here is your 3rd irrelevant point -
O_Fenian, do you remember this? http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/The_Maiden_City/Archive#22_September_2010 Factocop (talk) 11:11, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
You started the investigation for 22nd September! Why is that so hard for you to understand?Factocop (talk) 11:15, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
O_Fenian, During the entire time I was blocked you were keen to stick the 'boot' in along with the rest of friends and you made no apology for it. You conspired to have my removed from wikipedia and following my investigation I was found to be true and honest in my case. You have been casting a shadow over me the entire time i have been on wikipedia gathering support on various user talk pages to have my arguments and discussions muted despite fact and sources presented. This is an encyclopedia, not a medium for you to air your polictical extremes and hide truth and fact. The sooner you realise that, the better.Factocop (talk) 11:31, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
No, I have already been blocked for 48hrs when the standard block is 24hrs. To block me any longer would be unjust.Factocop (talk) 11:50, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Well that was 6 weeks ago. I thought sins could be forgiven?Factocop (talk) 12:00, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Well ive done nothing wrong so ill pray for you instead.Factocop (talk) 12:05, 29 October 2010 (UTC) Factocop (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log)) Request reason: unjust block carried out by admin who was participating in edit-warring. Also standard block is 24hrs for edit warring but in this case it is 48hrs Decline reason: Block confirmed by uninvolved admin and length appropriate given previous block for edit warring. Favonian (talk) 12:28, 29 October 2010 (UTC) If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked. This doesnt seem correct. I have seen users in the past who have been blocked for edit warring on multiple occasions but never for more than 24hrs. That being the case Favonian, can you take a look at user:NorthernCounties as he was blocked yesterday for 24hrs for edit warring but he has been blocked for this in the past. I will assume that you will extend his blocking aswell?Factocop (talk) 12:35, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the block log link. Never seen that before. As for the other point. It doesnt seem correct that an admin can be actively involved in a discussion and block a user at the same time? Thanks for being so passive. Your a great help:/Factocop (talk) 12:55, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Ohh ok, Sorry, Im really not thinking straight, because when Sarek made a reversion to an edit of mine, I thought that meant that he had become involved. How silly of me. Im an idiot. So, just a question, how many edits does an 'above the law' admin need to make before they are deemed to be involved?Factocop (talk) 15:30, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Sarek, I think your blocking was more to do with your dislike for me and my views and less to do with your role as an admin and custodian of wikipedia. Having raised a discussion on the topic, few people joined. It seems the only way to get the attention of those who made the reversions to my edits was to make a further edit. I cant force people to join a discussion. And given that my edits were reverted by a group of users who I have known to of collaborated together in other topics to gather consensus, I was always going to be out numbered. Please, please tell what I can do to avoid edit warring when my edits and discussions are met with oppoistion by a group of users who collaborate together on a number of contentious articles? 5 of my edits can be met by 5 users who make a single reversion each, yet I will be charged with edit warring. How can I avoid this?Factocop (talk) 17:07, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Well if the 5 editors fail to join the discussion topic for lack of argument except to say 'just because', how can you tell? and given that certain editors troll pages like a pack of dogs forcing opinion over fact, consensus means little and is partly why wikipedia has become more of a forum than an encyclopedia.Shame really.Factocop (talk) 17:19, 29 October 2010 (UTC) I might suggest you review carefully the policy on dispute resolution.. Just because you are outnumbered doesn't mean you are wrong but it also means you cannot ignore other policies such as those on edit warring. Make use of the dispute resolution process and it will keep you out of trouble. 17:20, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Mo, with every post you make, your condition becomes more apparent, so you have my pity....but as I have said before and if you look through the history you will see that yes 5 users did join the discussion but they were not the same 5 that made the reversions to my edits. ok pumpkin?Factocop (talk) 17:29, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Also Sarek, just a mention about NorthernCounties. You blocked him for edit warring on 'Brandywell Stadium' WP but you did not undo his edits. Why not? my fear is that if I revert back to the original, I will be blocked again for edit warring.Factocop (talk) 17:31, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Factocop - we're up against a big POV pushing problem here, and that coupled with the admin cabal is making things extremely difficult. Look what's happened to TritonRocker and LevenBoy. In the near future I'll be developing a fairly detailed submission as an RFC on the whole British Isles/Irish Nationalist problem at Wikipedia. I hope you'll contribute. Thanks. LemonMonday Talk 17:58, 29 October 2010 (UTC) Wikipedia:IndentationHi Factocop can I suggest you look at WP:INDENT which explains why good indentation makes prolonged discussions easier to read and understand. Thank you. Bjmullan (talk) 10:20, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Bj, the only reason why I requested you to answer the questions is because you raised the objection in the first place. The onnus was on you then to provide sources. If you can not find a source then do not raise an objection on the basis of 'just because'.Factocop (talk) 11:18, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Also how do you paste in a link into a number/word/letter rather than pasting entire string....Factocop (talk) 11:55, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
November 2010
Sorry Mo, didnt realise you were an admin.Factocop (talk) 17:06, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
thanks. I actually posted on NorthernCounties user_page and he removed my post with summary reverting vandalism. will deal with the pair of them tomorrow.Factocop (talk) 18:07, 2 November 2010 (UTC)  You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. {{unblock|Your reason here}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. SarekOfVulcan (talk) 13:42, 3 November 2010 (UTC)Sarek, why have you blocked me? There is a long established consensus that Northern Ireland is a country and this is evident across Northern Ireland related pages. Why is it then that the 2 against 1 consensus on the Giant's Causeway page outweigh a long established consensus on the topic?Factocop (talk) 13:48, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Factocop (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log)) Request reason: I have been blocked for apparent edit warring. As this is an encyclopedia, I wish for consistency. At present and justified by the last consensus outcome, 'Northern Ireland' is a country'. This is a long established consensus and is evident across 99% of Northern Ireland related pages. However this consenus has not stretched to WP:Giants Causeway.Please can someone unblock me and also explain why the consensus of 2 against 1 out weighs an established consensus? Decline reason: I am declining your request for unblock because it does not address the reason for your block, or because it is inadequate for other reasons. To be unblocked, you must convince the reviewing administrator(s) that
Please read our guide to appealing blocks for more information. John (talk) 14:22, 3 November 2010 (UTC) If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
Dispute resolutionAfter checking the list at WP:Dispute resolution, I'm not sure if any of the noticeboards are really suitable, although a couple of them might be. I'd suggest settling this by a WP:Request for comment, posted on Talk:Northern Ireland. A neutral phrasing for the RFC would be something down the lines of "Is it appropriate to refer to Northern Ireland as a country, or constituent country, in Wikipedia articles?" You could then proceed to give a reliable source for it being referred to as a constituent country of the UK. It would also be best if you provided a reliable source on the other side of the argument (UK has never formally given legal status of NI, or something like that), because if you don't, you will be criticized for it. I would avoid claims that all these other articles do it this way, because as you've heard before, Wikipedia isn't a reliable source for itself. Once that's determined in a month or so, you'll have a stronger position for your edits -- or you'll know that there's insufficient consensus for them. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 15:44, 3 November 2010 (UTC) OK ill try that. But i have said in the past that I am not referencing other wiki pages but I do think that they should be in toe with each other. I know you are probably using it as an example but a constituent country is still a country. Im just guessing here but Im sure if I went on the Ireland page and suggested a change like 'Republic of Ireland is a constituent country of the British isles' there would be uproar from the same people here who wish to demote Northern Ireland to the status of a birds nest.Factocop (talk) 15:53, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
9 November 2010{{unblock|Your reason here}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. SarekOfVulcan (talk) 17:50, 9 November 2010 (UTC)During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Factocop (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log)) Request reason: Please can I be unblocked. I have been blocked for apparent edit warring but in fact I was only reverting a change that had been made with out consensus. A discussion had been set up, but no consensus was reached, so I reverted page back to original. Seems an illogical block. I was just restoring a page. Decline reason: Let me get this right; you had just returned from a block for edit-warring, and you decided to make three reverts, more or less straight off? This block is lenient in the extreme and you would be well advised to use the time reassessing your participation in the project we are working on here. The next block should probably be indefinite, in my opinion. This one clearly needs to stand. Sorry. John (talk) 18:10, 9 November 2010 (UTC) If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
Personal attack redacted and additional {{unblock}} request removed. Factocop, please confine your comments to content, not individual editors. I know it may seem like you are being kicked when you are down, but don't make it worse by attacking admins who are enforcing policies. There is a good-faith unblock above which was in response to you specifically stating you would seek consensus instead of making article changes. You didn't do that. Frank | talk 18:19, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
I just fixed the block length in the notice above. I meant to block for 72 hours, but only actually blocked for 48, so I'll let that stand. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 18:26, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
Factocop (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log)) Request reason: 1. page was not restricted. Sarek only imposed the 1RR on the page in the last 20minutes. 2. I made 2 reverts to 2 edits and I let the 3 edit alone. the 3 edits were made without even discussing in talk page, and users knew the change was controversial. 3. A discussion was set up, but no consensus was reached. 4. I reverted back to original page given that no consensus was reached. so why should an edit stand if it was not agreed? What have I done wrong? Please may I be unblocked Decline reason: The article is part of an entire series of articles that you are already aware are subject to 1RR - this article did not magically become subject to 1RR, it always has been since the "broadly construed" statement was provided ages ago. You were made aware that articles inside that broadly construed topic were under 1RR. You have agreed in the past as a condition of unblock to seek WP:DR. Instead, you broke a longstanding 1RR and your unblock request continues to show you have no desire or understanding of the DR process (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:53, 10 November 2010 (UTC) If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked. BW, Iwas hoping that by requesting Sarek to join the discussion, DR would not be needed. Why am I the only person to receive a warning? 4 others made 1 edit each. 3 of those edits were made prior to any discussion so I can only assume that it was vandalism. Are you going to give them a warnign as well? Why should the page stay in the same state even after a consensus could not be reached on the edits? If you can answer these questions, I would appreciate it.Factocop (talk) 12:40, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
Factocop (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log)) Request reason: I have been blocked for breaking 1RR but blocking admin had previously warned me not to break the 3RR. I did not break the 3RR and so I do not see a reason for this block. Decline reason: You haven't addressed the NPA/BATTLE issues that led tot he extension of your block, so I can't do anything here. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 12:49, 11 November 2010 (UTC) If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
Well if you feel that I deserve the 2nd block of 48 hrs then that would mean that I will soon to have completed a 48hr sentence, but you are aware I should not of been given the 1st sentence as Sarek reminded me of 3RR but blocked me for breaking 1RR. This fact is clear as day. I am not abusing the unblock process, I am just trying to appeal a block that should not of been awarded. And it is slightly hypocritical to warn me of my phraseology, given your use of the english language in the past. If you are not going to unblock me, then please do not comment on my page any further as to so would be deemed unnecessary aggrivation.Factocop (talk) 11:20, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
10 November 2010Because of this edit, which is using terminology that you have already been warned about elsewhere, I have added 2 additional days to the block for WP:NPA. Due to the nature of escalating blocks, it should have been a week. Take some time off and read policy - understand that Wikipedia is not a battleground. Rethink your personal strategy here. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 14:59, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
There was no consensus to avoid using the pipe-link? Seems to me, every editor in the discussion, didn't want the pipe-link, but you. Why should your lone objection there, become a veto? GoodDay (talk) 16:05, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
Also here is Sarek, qouting the 3RR to me - http://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ACarlingford_Lough&action=historysubmit&diff=395769035&oldid=395767654. Tell me again how I was suppose to know the page was under 1RR if an admin is telling me to be weary of 3RR?Factocop (talk)
I think I have a reason to feel slightly agreived.Factocop (talk) 16:42, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
11 November 2010BritishWatcher (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) appears to be connected with Factocop, and he's still active, having been overlooked in the SPI. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 11:41, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
Factocop must be due for release? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.183.128.2 (talk) 15:16, May 23, 2011 (UTC)
ReleaseCan I appeal to all admins, please release me. I have made several attempts to contact the arbcom but they seem willing only to listen to my case once every 6 months. I have been blocked for an eternity and I wish to continue using my wiki account. I have appealed to the arbcom committee and a explained my reasons for socking, wish I regret. But apparently my continual block exists because I have not outlined my reasons for edit warring. I did not know that I had been indefinitely blocked for edit warring and now I have to wait another 6 months to have this case reviewed. Please assist. My recent contributions: http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Special:Contributions/147.114.44.201 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.114.44.200 (talk) 15:08, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
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ArbCom unblock appeal
The Arbitration Committee has carefully considered Factocop's appeal and have decided to unblock under the following conditions:
1) That Factocop is restricted to editing only from one account, and always when logged in.
2) That Factocop does not use the revert tool (or any variation of it) at all - not even once, and not even to revert clear vandalism. For clarity: Factocop can make no actions as described in WP:Revert, though can make an edit of a current version of a page and manually add sourced material, and/or remove inappropriate material, and/or amend current text in a constructive manner. After six months of successfully not reverting, Factocop may apply to the Committee to have this restriction lifted.
These terms must remain displayed on Factocop's talkpage for a period of at least one month. The terms will also be placed on Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee/Ban Appeals Subcommittee - or any other project page or subpage as later felt appropriate (such as Wikipedia:General sanctions), so that admins are aware of the conditions; and the terms will remain on either that or a later decided page for as long as the restrictions are in place.
Concerns about possible violations of these terms should be discussed at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement, and if consensus is that the terms have been violated, an appropriate sanction applied.
For the Arbitration Committee. SilkTork ✔Tea time 09:14, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
Note to Factocop
If you have any doubt as to if your action may be challenged then it is strongly suggested you raise the issue on the talkpage and either get support for your action, or see if there are no objections after a reasonable amount of time has passed (the amount of time would depend on the significance of the edit and the page itself, but it should be at least 24 hours).
It will be your responsibility (same as it is for all Wikipedia users) to ensure that your own actions and edits are constructive and helpful and follow Wikipedia ethos, guidelines and policies. Part of that is to avoid any drama. It is to be expected that if someone has misbehaved in the past that the community will be slightly distrustful; it is up to you to overcome that distrust by proving you can be relied upon to edit constructively, calmly and without drama. If someone raises a query about your editing, then it would be expected that you will respond positively and helpfully to such a query. If someone feels that a new account may be you operating a sock account, then it would be expected that you allow the investigation to be conducted without hindrance, and you assist calmly and politely with any queries regarding the suspect account. SilkTork ✔Tea time 09:14, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
Nicely worded....
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Those stupid bastards commenting on the complaints page will probably think I'm you. Let them. They are a bunch of morons. Keep up the good work. I notice loads of those republican gits have now either retired or been topic banned. I assume you've also noticed this. Mo ainm - it's obvious who he was and I take it you know by now. I'd also look very closely at One Night In Hackney. Its quite clear who he used to be as well. Somewhere in there is Wikipiere. Carnival Fred (talk) 15:55, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
- And when are you going to take that ridiculous banner off your user page? Carnival Fred (talk) 15:58, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
- Hey Facto, I'd leave that AN/I page alone if I were you. It just attracts baiting trolls like Baseball and Cailil. They are determined to nail you one way or another, as are several other bastards, so just ignore them and don't give them the chance. Concentrate on putting solid arguments towards removing Irish republican POV, which presently pervades many articles. Fred Carnival (talk) 13:03, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
Doc - you are such a prat!