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		This Working Man's barnstar is awarded to Bsherr for copy editing articles totalling 10,168 words during the Guild of Copy Editors July 2010 backlog drive. Your contributions are appreciated!--Diannaa (Talk) 16:26, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

GOCE copy edit drive

Greetings, the Wikipedia Guild of Copy-Editors invites you to participate in the November 2010 Backlog Elimination Drive, a month-long effort to reduce the backlog of articles that require copy-editing. The drive will begin on 1 November at 00:00 (UTC) and will end on 30 November at 23:59 (UTC). The goal for this drive is to reduce the backlog by 10% (approximately 500 articles). We hope to focus our efforts on the oldest three months (January, February, and March 2009) and the newest three months (September, October, and November 2010) of articles in the queue. Sign-up has already begun at the November drive page, and will be open throughout the drive. If you have any questions or concerns, please leave a message on the drive's talk page. Before you begin copy-editing, please carefully read the instructions on the main drive page. Please make sure that you know how to copy-edit, and be familiar with the Wikipedia Manual of Style. Awards and barnstars A range of barnstars will be awarded to active participants, some of which are exclusive to GOCE drives. More information on awards can be found on the main drive page. Thank you; we look forward to meeting you on the drive! — The UtahraptorTalk to me/Contributions, S Masters (talk), and Diannaa (Talk)

nuh ibn zbigniew

Please delete the Nuh ibn Zbigniew thread. I am the person mentioned and don't want unsubstantiated claims and vindictive lies about my life made through wikipedia. I cannot police this thread on a daily basis.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ngondek (talk • contribs) 17:20, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

120.17.169.149

Hello, Bsherr. Would you mind relaying to me what this IP stated at Talk:Pedophilia? Through email, if you prefer. Flyer22 (talk) 17:45, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

From memory, it was something like [e-mail address] is an Internet pedophile and then something about notifying the police. I had it oversighted because of the e-mail address. --Bsherr (talk) 17:50, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Oh, okay. Thank you for informing me. And Happy Holidays. Flyer22 (talk) 18:12, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Of interest

Pursuant to this, you may be interested to see User talk:Joshua P. Schroeder#Cold fusion talk where eventually the decision was made to semi-protect. jps (talk) 07:55, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Template talk:Delrev

I've replied to your question on Template talk:Delrev. --Tothwolf (talk) 10:21, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

GOCE Year-end Report

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Andrew Peach

There needs to be something done about the Andrew Peach page. The reference regarding 5-Live is invalid. Even though it says Andrew Peach sits in for Stephen Nolan, that page doesn't provide enough evidence he is even an occasional stand-in presenter. The arguments I have read are rediculous. I have to agree with the few that say that 5-Live shouldn't even be on there. He is a presenter for BBC Berklshire only by the sounds of it, and is now hardly ever on Radio 2 as a news reader. I think we will need to take their word for it, as I am an avid Radio 2 listener and haven't heard Andrew on there for ages. As for 5-Live, I called up and asked about Andrew Peach, and the three people I spoke to before I got put through to the right person hadn;t a clue of who he was! --FreeSpirit10 (talk) 11:42, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

A reference was provided for an instance in which he apparently stood in for a regular presenter. That doesn't speak to whether the occasion was notable enough to be included in the article. I wouldn't object to its being removed. --Bsherr (talk) 15:55, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Are you saying that you are able to agree with people who don't think it's acceptable to have the link included? The link about 5-Live (and R2 for that matter!) are not necessary. Can we finalise this argument? 82.41.235.103 (talk) 19:47, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

It would be better to discuss this on the article talk page. --Bsherr (talk) 23:33, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

At the moment, nobody can discuss any issues on the Andrew Peach talk page, as someone has put a semi protection on it. I would like to think that people are more adult than this. This is completeley unacceptable. Lets put this to bed once and for all and just keep it basic and just say he is a radio presenter on BBC Radio Berkshire and a occasional news reader on BBC Radio 2. Five Live need not be monetioned as the link is now invalid and I can't find any other evidence that he was ever on 5-Live. From what I can see, it seems that people are thinking that Andrew Peach is adjusting his own page to make himself sound big. To be honest, I can see this. I have studied carefully the times of which most of the edits have been made. Between 6am and 10am most of them, and from a BBC IP address. Hmm, that's strange I would say. a Breakfast presenter changing his own page during his show in his studio? Surely this is proof that he is editing his own page. Lets try and put a block on these IP addresses to see if any further changes will be made, instead of blocking other innocent people who are trying to help false facts be included on Wikipedia. Is there any way we can unlock the protection on the talk page and finalise this argument? 93.96.66.172 (talk) 14:12, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

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Jason Upton article

• Thank you for doing the job. I was off for some days and I am not used to all that Wikipedia bureaucraty. I thought that was not allowed move the page back. Best wishes. Cgadbois (talk) 04:24, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Template:Uw-block

Hello! I know you've been working alot on this template. When HJ full-protected it in August, this was brought to HJ's talk page, and HJ then brought the protection level down to semi. Today, can you think of anything more that needs to be done with this meta template? HJ wants it full-protected when we are done with the template. HeyMid (contribs) 16:32, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Mechamind added a whole lot of parameters to it, and extracted out some of the block language as separate templates. I'd like to try to bring those back in and simplify it. As far as I know, there's been no vandalism of it. --Bsherr (talk) 21:07, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

My question wasn't whether the template has been vandalized (it certainly hasn't) – my question was whether there is anything more to do with the template. Regarding the "extracted out some of the block language as separate templates" part, I think you mean {{after-block}} and {{unblock-hard}}. I've nominated both for deletion, since it seems they're not needed. HeyMid (contribs) 15:44, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Help:R help

A tag has been placed on Help:R help, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect from an implausible typo.

Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. If you believe that there is a reason to keep the redirect, you can request that administrators wait a while before deleting it. To do this, affix the template {{hangon}} to the page and state your intention on the article's talk page. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this.  —  Paine Ellsworth ( CLIMAX )  19:35, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

GOCE drive news

Guild of Copy Editors January 2011 backlog elimination drive Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors January 2011 Backlog elimination drive! The drive is halfway over, so here are some mid-drive stats. Participation GOCE January 2011 backlog elimination drive progress graphs So far, 43 people have signed up for this drive. Of these, 25 have participated. If you signed up for the drive but haven't participated yet, it's not too late! Try to copy edit at least a few articles. Remember, if you have rollover words from the last drive, you will lose them if you do not participate in this drive. If you haven't signed up for the drive yet, you can sign up now. Progress report We have eliminated two months from the backlog – January and February 2009. One of our goals is to eliminate as many months as possible from the 2009 backlog. Please help us reduce the size of this part of the backlog if you haven't already. Another goal is to reduce the entire backlog by 10%, or by 515 articles. Currently, we have eliminated 375 articles from the queue, so if each participant copy edits four more articles, we will reach that goal. Thank you for participating in the January 2011 drive. We anticipate it will be another big success! Your drive coordinators –S Masters (talk), Diannaa (Talk), The UtahraptorTalk to me, and Tea with toast (Talk)

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Allmon

Why did you move it to mainspace only to PROD it? You should have just declined it instead. This is not the proper way to review Afc submissions. Jarkeld (talk) 20:18, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Which decline reason would you have used? I don't see any that are applicable. --Bsherr (talk) 20:27, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Notability. Jarkeld (talk) 20:31, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Your changes were incorrect. The subject of the article is not a CSD A7 topic. --Bsherr (talk) 20:33, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Did you even read the whole text? Btw: please read WP:PROD as it is not for use outside main article space. Jarkeld (talk) 20:34, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Could you identify which of the A7 categories the subject of the article is within, then? --Bsherr (talk) 20:39, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

"This suggestion doesn't sufficiently explain the importance or significance of the subject. See the speedy deletion criteria (A7) and/or guidelines on notability. Please provide more information on why the subject is worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. Thank you." See the italicized text: It is a standard template for A7 AND for notability issues. Jarkeld (talk) 20:41, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

"This suggestion doesn't sufficiently explain the importance or significance of the subject." That's a standard that is only applied to A7 subjects. No? --Bsherr (talk) 20:46, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

As far as Afc submissions are concerned, option nn can be used for both cases. Jarkeld (talk) 21:00, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

According to what? --Bsherr (talk) 21:01, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Template:AFC submission/doc and Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Reviewing_instructions Jarkeld (talk) 21:07, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Would it not be better to use the correct standard for notability, significant coverage in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject, rather than the wrong one? And if "nn" is intended to be used for non-A7 topics, why would it use the A7 standard instead of the notability standard? --Bsherr (talk) 21:12, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

I am using the correct standard, it's just that software does not have it's own Non notable template message yet. See option music for example: notability and A7 type standards both at once. Jarkeld (talk) 21:17, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Could you explain why you think you are using the correct standard? "Importance or significance" appears in WP:CSD A7, but appears nowhere on WP:Notability. Doesn't that suggest that you're using the wrong standard? --Bsherr (talk) 21:20, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Can you explain why User:Timotheus Canens calls it "nn - subject appears to be non-notable. Consider a more appropriate decline reason" --> because it doubles as A7 AND notability decline template. Jarkeld (talk) 21:45, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

I don't understand what you are referring to. Could you address my question above? --Bsherr (talk) 21:47, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

I already have, but you seem to be missing the point. Jarkeld (talk) 22:14, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

If, as you claim, "importance or significance" is the general notability standard, why does it appear in WP:CSD A7, but nowhere on WP:Notability? --Bsherr (talk) 22:17, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

That is where you are missing the point. The tamplate is for Afc space only. Therefore it has A7 and notability in one. It has nothing to do with CSD. Jarkeld (talk) 22:21, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

If that's true, then why does it use language from CSD A7 instead of from WP:Notability? Can you explain that? --Bsherr (talk) 22:23, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Because they chose that text when the Afc options were setup. I use the NN option: if you look at the table at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Reviewing_instructions you'll see that it is the final option at Notability. Jarkeld (talk) 22:31, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Why would they choose language from CSD A7 if, as you claim, CSD A7 has nothing to do with the template? Doesn't that indicate that it was only supposed to be used for A7 topics? --Bsherr (talk) 22:33, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

If you'd take a look at the editing history for Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Reviewing_instructions and it's talkpage you might find out. Jarkeld (talk) 22:41, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

I already did, and I did not find out. I expect the way to resolve this will be to come to a decision on the project talk page. --Bsherr (talk) 22:46, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

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enough!

Enough with your shit!--Yay Good (talk) 00:45, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

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