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Greetings, welcome to my talk page. '''Please leave me new messages at the bottom of the page'''; [{{fullurl:{{TALKPAGENAMEE}}|action=edit&section=new}} click here to start a new section at the bottom]. I usually notice messages soon. If I think it is important to keep a thread together I will respond here; otherwise I may respond on your talk page. Or maybe both. A foolish hobgoblin little minds consistency.
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==I know it means nothing but...==
I really respect you. You make me want to come back from being a "white dwarf" and do mediation again. --[[User:CakeProphet|<font color="MediumBlue">The Prophet Wiz</font><font color="DarkCyan">ard of the Cray</font>]][[User talk:CakeProphet|<font color="MediumBlue">on Cake</font>]] 03:22, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

:It does mean something! Thank you! And please come back any time you so desire; mediation is a rare skill and a much-needed one. All the best, [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 03:29, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

== User Unitwikias ==

I noticed that you reverted a set of edits made by user [[User:Unitwikias|Unitwikia]] on the [[De-Stalinization]] page, and your edit summary read [http://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Talk:De-Stalinization&curid=18124385&diff=281366056&oldid=280964753 "rm banned user's usual nonsense"]. I wasn't aware that this user was banned; I've been dealing with disruptive edits by several of his obvious sockpuppets recently :
*{{user|Unitwiki}}
*{{user|Unitwikis}}
*{{user|Unitwikia}}
*{{user|Unitwikias}}
*{{user|Unitmorewikis}}
*{{user|Unitmorewikias}}
Though I've [http://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Unitwikis&diff=prev&oldid=279639129 tried to be helpful and assume good faith], it doesn't seem to be taking. If there's a main user here who was banned, then I'd like to file those accounts as socks of the original user. Can you point me in the right direction to identify the primary account and its ban history?
Best, -- [[User:Docether|Docether]] ([[User talk:Docether|talk]]) 15:30, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

:Yup. I sure wish you had e-mail enabled. Situation of great delicacy. He's been harassing us for three years, and the harassment has, on occasion, reached quite extreme levels. [http://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Wikipedia%3ALong+term+abuse%2FGeorge+Reeves+Person This] is where the history was; notice who deleted it. Shoot me an e-mail if you want to know more. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 15:48, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

::Thanks for the followup. Since you know more about the history of this user, would you like to submit the accounts I've listed above to the sockpuppet list and get them blocked / salted? -- [[User:Docether|Docether]] ([[User talk:Docether|talk]]) 16:49, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

:::Will do. Caution: do not ever e-mail him, even though he will plague you relentlessly with requests to do so (unless your e-mail service masks IPs in the header). He's a serial stalker, is quite insane, and can and will damage you any way he can if he decides your are on his bad side; he also reserves his fiercest hate for people who try to help him (like me). [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 17:05, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

::::You got it. Thanks again for the advice, and all your help. Best, -- [[User:Docether|Docether]] ([[User talk:Docether|talk]]) 17:21, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
::::Oh, and here are two more socks which have popped up, if you haven't listed the others yet :
::::* {{user|Funrunfunf}}
::::* {{user|Colormepurple}}
::::Thanks, -- [[User:Docether|Docether]] ([[User talk:Docether|talk]]) 19:45, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

== You observation on behavior mentions at [[Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2009 April 3]] ==

Hi. You may be interested in my comments at [[Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2009 April 3]] where I reference you. --[[User:SmokeyJoe|SmokeyJoe]] ([[User talk:SmokeyJoe|talk]]) 02:07, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

:Thank you -- yes, I would never have noticed (I never really know if ''anyone'' reads that essay, except by the occasional notes I get; and as you can imagine, once in a while I get a hostile one). Regarding that user talk page -- there are actually a fair number of deleted pages of trolls and troublemakers I routinely look at, usually to help me identify possible sockpuppets. Now that I'm looking at it, oy -- it's not pretty. Some people just are not suited to a collaborative environment. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 02:42, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

==A Lucky Penny==
{| style="border: 1px solid gray; background-color: #fdffe7;"
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|style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;" | '''A Lucky Penny'''
|-
|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | In the spirit of ''"See a penny, pick it up. All the day you'll have good luck"'', this penny is offered to Editor:Antandrus for his timely help with vandalism at [[Timetable of the Presidency of Barack Obama]]....--[[User:Buster7|Buster7]] ([[User talk:Buster7|talk]]) 02:54, 7 April 2009 (UTC)|}
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:Thanks! Yah, that was one of those cases when I just happened to click on "recent changes" and saw something happening that didn't look right. Cheers, [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 02:57, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

== Ding! ==

I sent you an email. =) -- [[User:Gogo Dodo|Gogo Dodo]] ([[User talk:Gogo Dodo|talk]]) 06:52, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

:Responded. :) [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 14:00, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

==Kudos, O Guru==
I don't really give out barnstars (or pay much attention to the few I've got), but I'd like to express my admiration of your [[User:Antandrus/observations on Wikipedia behavior|observations on Wikipedia behavior]], which I just happened to be led to by a link. [[User:Deor|Deor]] ([[User talk:Deor|talk]]) 02:17, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

== File:Chaparral California.jpg ==

Hello. I am [http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Rufous-crowned_Sparrow/archive1 currently] undertaking a Feature Article Candidacy for the [[Rufous-crowned Sparrow]] article. I used one of your pictures, [[:File:Chaparral California.jpg]], as a representative image of where the sparrow lives. During the image review, it was noted that the image's uploader is different from yourself, so I was asked to confirm that you have released the image. If so, could you please sign a statement on the image description page to confirm this? Thank you. [[User:Rufous-crowned Sparrow|Rufous-crowned Sparrow]] ([[User talk:Rufous-crowned Sparrow|talk]]) 19:03, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

:Uh, I took the picture, so it would have to be me who uploaded it. Let me check it out. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 19:09, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
::Thank you for clearing up the issue and for uploading a larger version of the picture. [[User:Rufous-crowned Sparrow|Rufous-crowned Sparrow]] ([[User talk:Rufous-crowned Sparrow|talk]]) 19:31, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

== Deo Volente ==

Thanks to delete this page → User talk:Jarandra. [[User:Mikhailov Kusserow|Mikhailov Kusserow]] ([[User talk:Mikhailov Kusserow|talk]]) 03:49, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

:You're welcome. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 03:57, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

== Happy first edit anniversary! ==

I know I am about ten days late, but to say something about you being here on Wikipedia for [http://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&dir=prev&target=Antandrus half a decade] already, I would like to wish you a happy fifth "first edit" anniversary! The time does indeed go fast, it has been FIVE years since you joined! <small><span style="border:1px solid black;background:red;padding:1px;">[[User:NHRHS2010|<b>NHRHS2010</b>]] | [[User_talk:NHRHS2010|<font style="color:black;background:red;">&nbsp;Talk to me&nbsp;</font>]] </span></small> 00:31, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

:Hey, thank you NHRHS! You're the only one who noticed. Yeah, it's a long time. That seems like forever, that innocent day when I thought "what the heck? ''I'' can edit this thing?" I'm sure you must remember your own sense of shock on the discovery (two years, a month, and a week for you!) All the best, [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 00:36, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

== The Category of Anti-(Nationality) in this case Anti-Turkism, Anti-Armenianism etc... ==

The Category Anti-Turkism page is relevant as the "organizations" (some of whom are listed as terrorits organizations by the U.S. and the E.U.) and people who fought, fought the Turkish state and/or individuals for ideological/nationalistic/political purposes as the Turkish state was an obstacle for thier goals. In case of nationalism Anti-Turkism is totally relevant and applicable as their nationalisms and actions clashed or still clashes with Turkish nationalism and the Turkish state, and vice versa. The same applies for the Category Anti-Armenianism. So for the sake of partiality either these two categories should be erased or should stay. The same applies for the other Anti-(Nationality) Categories as well.
But not one or the other.

P.S. I am neither Turkish, Kurdish, Armenian or Greek; I am Iranian if anybody was curious about me. But I don't think that is relevant either.

[[User:Saguamundi|Saguamundi]]
:I think it's better to discuss this at CfD where I have proposed the category for deletion [http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2009_April_15#Category:Anti-Turkism]. --[[User:Folantin|Folantin]] ([[User talk:Folantin|talk]]) 10:17, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

== Fellow codgers ==

[http://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AOld_Codgers%27_League&diff=285028258&oldid=276075070 I take it] you've been browsing Kat's recent contributions, too? :) Best, [[User:RobertG|RobertG]] &#9836; [[User talk:RobertG|talk]] 15:52, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

:Exactly! Her talk page remains on my watchlist. :) [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 16:27, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

== GO FUCK YOURSELF ==

FASCIST. Leave your racism out of the Jonathon Swift article. {{unsignedIP|86.40.98.36}}
:As used, the word ‘Fascism’ is almost entirely meaningless. In conversation, of course, it is used even more wildly than in print. I have heard it applied to farmers, shopkeepers, Social Credit, corporal punishment, fox-hunting, bull-fighting, the 1922 Committee, the 1941 Committee, Kipling, Gandhi, Chiang Kai-Shek, homosexuality, Priestley's broadcasts, Youth Hostels, astrology, women, dogs and I do not know what else ([http://www.orwell.ru/library/articles/As_I_Please/english/efasc]). And don't get me started on "Go fuck yourself." '''[[User:MastCell|MastCell]]'''&nbsp;<sup>[[User Talk:MastCell|Talk]]</sup> 21:35, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

:86 would be interested to learn that I am myself Irish. But then he's not interested in helping us write an encyclopedia, only in finding anyone who disagrees with him on anything whatsoever and tagging that person as a "Nazi". People like that provide innocent entertainment for the reasonable portion of the world, and a little bit of exercise for the fingers of those with "block" buttons. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 21:45, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
::[[WP:NPA|Personal attacks are wholly untowards]]. I'd have let it slide, but the wantonly mistaken take on [[fascism]] was altogether too much for this lassie. [[User:Gwen Gale|Gwen Gale]] ([[User talk:Gwen Gale|talk]])

:::This particular character reminds me of two things: 1) one of my favourite characters in James Joyce's [[Ulysses]], met in a bar; 2) certain characters I've encountered in real-life bars, who were bodily hurled into the street by bouncers, again and again. Unfortunately, two things: in Joyce, he was not so hurled, and on Wikipedia, as in RL, he's likely to come stumbling back in, unenlightened. I'd offer him a Flaming Nazi with cinnamon schnapps. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 00:40, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

== Woops ==

Sorry, another typo. [[User:Bugboy52.40|Bugboy52.4]] ([[User talk:Bugboy52.40|talk]]) 02:07, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

== Chronomètre of Loulié ==

Hello, I hope your vacation amongst the lovely flowers was very pleasant! I've written an article on Loulié's chronomètre and would appreciate your critique. [[User:Ranumspa|Patricia M. Ranum]] ([[User talk:Ranumspa|talk]]) 18:10, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks... ==

for [http://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=User:Rrburke&diff=285976585&oldid=285976577 that]. --[[User:Rrburke|Rrburke]]<sup><small>([[User_talk:Rrburke|talk]])</small></sup> 02:54, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

:You're welcome -- I blocked him, and after he started vandalizing his own talk page I adjusted the block to prevent him from editing that too. Oh well. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 02:56, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

== are you a communist? ==

I am surprised you mandated censorship on wiki. Yo-Yo Ma is a musician. I am not arguing that, but his involvement with the Bush administration needs to be documented. I am very disappointed that your behavior is more or less the similar as a communist official. I feel sorry for you. Go take a look at Herbert Von Karajan's wiki. You will know what I mean.

I don't have high hopes that you will stop what you are doing. That's not important to me. What is important is that I now understand wiki is a censored material, controlled by people like you using some sort of law that you manipulate for your advantage. SHAME ON YOU!

:Antandrus not loyal party member but is running dog lackey of [[WP:NPOV|imperialists]]. Visit [[User:Short Brigade Harvester Boris|dacha of Boris]] for correct zeal to revolution. Mir i druzhba to all comrade. [[User:Short Brigade Harvester Boris|Short Brigade Harvester Boris]] ([[User talk:Short Brigade Harvester Boris|talk]]) 18:38, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

:"Liberalism manifests itself in many ways ...
:"To indulge in irresponsible criticism ... To indulge in personal attacks, pick quarrels, vent personal spite or seek revenge instead of entering into a discussion and struggling against incorrect views for the sake of unity or progress or getting the work done properly ...
:"To be aware of one's own mistakes, and yet make no attempt to correct them ..."
:[[Little Red Book|Quotations from Chairman Mao Tsetung]], p. 245-246. Foreign Languages Press, Peking, 1972. [[User:Antandrus|Mandator of Censorship, and Running-Dog Harassment Engineer]], 19:59, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

:::Antandrus, only commies botch how many tildes to put in a sig :D [[User:Gwen Gale|Gwen Gale]] ([[User talk:Gwen Gale|talk]]) 20:21, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

::::Uh, but I thought two plus two ''did'' equal five? [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 20:39, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::[[Little red book|Spot. on.]] :) [[User:Gwen Gale|Gwen Gale]] ([[User talk:Gwen Gale|talk]]) 20:46, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

==Note about the above comments==
I have to say, that being called a "fascist" and a "communist" by two different people, within a 24-hour period, is one of my proudest accomplishments on Wikipedia to date, and is happily timed for my (slightly-late) five-year anniversary. Shouldn't I get the Molotov-Ribbentrop Order of Merit or something? [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 00:07, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
::You know, those two [[Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact|got together in Moscow]], canny scammin' for uncle Joe and you-know-who, Ribbentrop the champagne flogger, Moletov who had an [[Molotov cocktail|unhelpful "cocktail" thingy]] named after him, maybe I think it all slurs the [[Wiskey|eald malt]] but that's another tale. [[User:Gwen Gale|Gwen Gale]] ([[User talk:Gwen Gale|talk]]) 00:30, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

:::I don't know what overall effect Wikipedia has had on my intellectual life, but I do know I drink more than I did five years ago. However I'm havin' dinner in a moment and could do with one of them [[Molotov bread basket]]s (oh ... uh ... wait ...) [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 00:33, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
::::Aye, me too and meanwhile I'd never heard of that sick gadget (never mind we're going through it all again now, you know what I mean). [[User:Gwen Gale|Gwen Gale]] ([[User talk:Gwen Gale|talk]]) 00:55, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

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|style="font-size: large; padding: 0; vertical-align: bottom; height: 1.1em;" | '''The Inaugural Uncle Duce Award for Contradictory Political Bias'''
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|style="vertical-align: top; border-top: 1px solid #999999;"|Awarded to '''Antandrus''' for being accused of being a fascist and a communist within 48 hours. The party of your whim salutes you!

'''<font face="Arial">[[User:Acroterion|<font color="black">Acroterion</font>]] <sub><small>[[User talk:Acroterion|<font color="gray">(talk)</font>]]</small></sub></font>''' 17:34, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
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[[Image:National-Bolshevik-Party.png|thumb|200px|Celebrate diversity with the NBP's two totalitarianisms for the price of one offer!]]
Or why not join Russia's [[National Bolshevik Party]]? Lovely people. --[[User:Folantin|Folantin]] ([[User talk:Folantin|talk]]) 18:09, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

: I hope, Antandrus, particularly with your being a musician, that you aren't suffering from [[cognitive dissonance]]. --[[User:RobertG|RobertG]] &#9836; [[User talk:RobertG|talk]] 19:40, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

::Heh, fascism and socialism/communism both spin up into much the same tune, only each played to their own scores to keep folks guessin' :) [[User:Gwen Gale|Gwen Gale]] ([[User talk:Gwen Gale|talk]]) 04:06, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

:::LOL. While I'd need to borrow Boris's ''Complete Works of Lenin'' for an appropriate quotation, not having yet found a suitably priced copy on eBay, I have to say this is the most fun I've ever had with a couple of (entirely serious, as far as I can tell) trolls. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 01:06, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

== User page ==

Can I use your user page as my own? I plan to edit it to make it different from yours of course but I wanted to know if I could have your permission before I tried anything. [[User:Moon-sunrise|<font color="gray">月</font>]][[User talk:Moon-sunrise|<font color="orange">と</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Moon-sunrise|<font color="red">暁</font>]] 01:17, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

:Certainly! I think ten or twelve other people have adopted it as a template (I did not design it, by the way: credit goes to the delightful [[User:Phaedriel]], designer of many user pages, who unfortunately has left the building). Cheers, [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 01:25, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

::Saw your comment on my talk. Thank you for allowing me to use, even though you didn't design it I'll still credit you. If I have any troubles could I ask you for help? [[User:Moon-sunrise|<font color="gray">月</font>]][[User talk:Moon-sunrise|<font color="orange">と</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Moon-sunrise|<font color="red">暁</font>]] 01:53, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

:::Sure -- no problem! I'm no expert on Wiki-syntax --preferring to add content -- but can usually figure things out. Cheers, [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 01:54, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

== Little Red Book ==

Not sure if you are still following the thread you started on the copyright info talk page, but from my reading of [[Intellectual property in the People's Republic of China#Copyright law]] and some other quick references the book is not covered by copyright. [[User:DreamGuy|DreamGuy]] ([[User talk:DreamGuy|talk]]) 15:45, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

:Thank you! No, I've been hiking in the mountains all day. Just got back, haven't looked at any threads yet. It was just a wild hair idea -- I thought a picture of the book might help the article, but I never, ever upload fair use, so I wanted to see if there was a way. (See the hilarious thread above for context.) All the best, [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 00:43, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

== Admin request - file history? ==

I've gotta say you have one of the more interesting talk pages. Communism ''and'' fascism, indeed.

I'm here for a somewhat more mundane purpose that I'm wondering if you can help out with. [[:File:Fortticonderoga inside.jpg|This image]] was originally uploaded to en.wikipedia, and then moved to Commons by a different user. Its copyright status is being questioned in [[Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Fort Ticonderoga/archive1|this FAC]]. Is there a way to retrieve the file history from when it was on Wikipedia, so that we can see what, if anything, the original uploader (who appears to have been the photographer, and is also inactive) had to say about copyright/left?

Feel free to point me elsewhere if you can't help. Thanks! ''[[User:Magicpiano|<span style="background-color:khaki;color:firebrick;">Magic</span>]]''[[User_talk:Magicpiano|♪piano]] 14:48, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

:Hi Magicpiano -- yes indeed. And it's nice to have someone visit my talk page who isn't accusing me of being a mass murderer or something.
:Here is the deleted file history (took me just a little sleuthing since the file changed name):

Page history
(diff) 12:43, 4 November 2007 . . SieBot (talk | contribs | block) (192 bytes) (Exact duplicate on Commons with same name)
(diff) 22:06, 29 May 2006 . . Ebedgert (talk | contribs | block) (This photograph was taken by Wikipedia member Ebedgert.)

File history
22:06, 29 May 2006 . . Ebedgert (talk | contribs | block) 640×480 (99,036 bytes) (This photograph was taken by Wikipedia member Ebedgert.)

Retrieved from "http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Special:Undelete"

:And here is the complete content of Ebedgert's 29 May 2006 page (from "page history", not "file history", which is the image -- and I verified it is the same image)

<nowiki>
== Summary ==
This photograph was taken by Wikipedia member Ebedgert.
== Licensing ==
{{PD-self}}
</nowiki>

:Which is quite clearly "I took the picture myself, and am making it public domain."
:Hope this helps! [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 14:58, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

::That should help. Thanks again! ''[[User:Magicpiano|<span style="background-color:khaki;color:firebrick;">Magic</span>]]''[[User_talk:Magicpiano|♪piano]] 15:09, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Actually, while I'm at it, can you do the same for [[:File:The Victory of Montcalms Troops at Carillon by Henry Alexander Ogden.JPG]]? This one is much more problematic, and it would be good to have the WP file and page history. ''[[User:Magicpiano|<span style="background-color:khaki;color:firebrick;">Magic</span>]]''[[User_talk:Magicpiano|♪piano]] 15:35, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

::Greetings again -- here you go:

Page history

* (diff) 21:50, 17 March 2009 . . Magicpiano (talk | contribs | block) (323 bytes) (CSD F8 (copied to Commons))
* (diff) 21:37, 6 April 2008 . . PericlesofAthens (talk | contribs | block) (240 bytes) (Undid revision 189109135 by 158.91.84.80 (talk))
* (diff) 21:16, 4 February 2008 . . 158.91.84.80 (talk | block) (80 bytes) (Summary)
* (diff) 00:02, 22 November 2007 . . Albrecht (talk | contribs | block) (240 bytes) (''The Victory of Montcalm's Troops at Carillon''. Early 20th century painting by Henry Alexander Ogden (1854 1936). [http://books.google.com/books?id=vwEm3wyIs-cC Online]. Fort Ticonderoga Museum, NY.)

File history

* 00:02, 22 November 2007 . . Albrecht (talk | contribs | block) 818×736 (100,066 bytes) (''The Victory of Montcalm's Troops at Carillon''. Early 20th century painting by Henry Alexander Ogden (1854 1936). [http://books.google.com/books?id=vwEm3wyIs-cC Online]. Fort Ticonderoga Museum, NY.)

Retrieved from "http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Special:Undelete"

::And here is the contents of the original upload page (22 Nov 2007):

<nowiki>
== Summary ==
''The Victory of Montcalm's Troops at Carillon''. Early 20th century painting by Henry Alexander Ogden (1854 1936). [http://books.google.com/books?id=vwEm3wyIs-cC Online]. Fort Ticonderoga Museum, NY.
== Licensing ==
{{PD-US}}</nowiki>

::The copyright status is not clear to me. It ''seems'' it should be in public domain, but it's not certain without getting an actual date on the painting, which seems to be lacking. PD-art would apply if you can verify it was published prior to 1923 (see the documentation for PD-US). Good luck, [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk)]] 19:32, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

:::There is no date (yet) on the painting, nor is there any adequate publication history (which is also apparently at issue when the artist is known to have died after 1923). I'm currently in the early stages of a dialog with the Ticonderoga Museum curator over this. If these things can't be established, the image will have to go. Thanks again for your help! ''[[User:Magicpiano|<span style="background-color:khaki;color:firebrick;">Magic</span>]]''[[User_talk:Magicpiano|♪piano]] 19:44, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

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