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Sources: Renault Aero Engines

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General

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  • Pagé, Victor Wilfred - Aviation engines, 1917 (http://www.archive.org/download/aviationenginesd00pagrich)
    • page 312 depicts a liquid cooled Renault V12 in Fig. 132
    • pages 505-512 "Renault Air-Cooled Vee Engine": mentions 40hp, 50hp engines, describes and depicts 70hp V8 and 90hp/100hp V12
  • Henri André, Moteurs d'aviation et de dirigeables, 1910 (https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/001040283)
    • page 88-90: describes and depicts air cooled 25hp Renault vee-4 engine (90/120mm, 1800rpm, 110kg)
      • page 90: mentions 8 cylinder 50ch engine of same type
    • page 141: describes and depicts water cooled Renault straight-4 engine (100/130mm, 35/40hp, 100kg)
  • PARIS FLIGHT SHOW, Flight 1909, page 624(http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1909/1909%20-%200620.html)
    • mentions De Dion aero engines being of the same design as their car engines as of 1909
      • 2 larger models are V type, the 35hp type also used for cars
    • mentions air cooled Renault aero engines -> the design of the fan cooled V8 engines seemingly originated at Renault, not De Dion
    • additional water cooled Renault engine mentioned: steel cylinders, copper jackets
  • FLIGHT ENGINES AT PARIS SHOW, Flight 1909, page 709-710 (http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1909/1909%20-%200707.html)
    • Pictures and dimensioned (!) drawings of 25hp air cooled V4 and 45hp water cooled inline 4-Cyl. engine.
    • additional data in text:
      • 25hp@1200rpm, 90mm/120mm, 115kg, 6000 francs
      • 45hp, 110mm/160mm, 190kg, 1100rpm, 11000 francs
    • note mm written as m/m, compare engine drawing dimensions ("Z" -> m/m) in Sherbondy, Wardrop
  • Great Britain. Air Board - The Claudel-Hobson carburettor models R.A.F., Z. & H.C.7., for aero engines : instruction manual, 1918 (http://www.archive.org/details/claudelhobsoncar00greaiala)
    • mentions on page 7 that Renault engines use the Claudel-Hobson carb. (however: water cooled Renaults typically used Zenith carbs.?)
  • Pictures (http://www.wwi-models.org/Photos/Engines/Renault80/index.html)
    • note: photos from Brussels Museum depict liquid cooled 80hp V8@~50°, other photos depict air cooled 80hp V8@90°
    • note@liquid cooled: data from sign: Renault 80HP, 1250rpm, 10.37 hp/kg, 25l; Used in: Farman ??, Voisin, BE2; 1913
    • note@liquid cooled: data from sign might be inaccurate: i have not heard of any liquid cooled BE2s (but need to check)
  • Aero Engines, Chorlton A E L, 1921, Journal of the American Society of Naval Engineers, Volume 33 Issue 4, pp 738
    • https://books.google.at/books?id=hJJCAAAAYAAJ
    • pg 753, Table 4 - Aero engines before 1910, Renault/vertical/water/4cyl/B=4.33in/St=6.30in/38.5hp/1100rpm;
      • 1155ft/min piston speed; 286 lbs dry weight
    • pg 756, Table 5 - Leading Engines 1914, Wolseley-Renault/Vee/12cyl/B=3.78in~96mm/St=5.51in~140mm/113.5bhp/1800rpm;
      • 1654ft/min piston speed; 0.66lb fuel/bhp*h; 478.8 lbs dry weight complete; 863.2 lbs weight incl fuel & oil 4h
    • pg 765, Table 10 - 12 Cylinder vee type water cooled engines: Renault 50°V12/220hp/B=4.92in~125mm/St=5.91in~150mm/1348cu.in/4.36compress/225bhp/1300rpm;
      • 1081ft/min piston speed; 0.53/0.062 lbs fuel/oil consumption per bhp*h; 951 lbs engine dry weight
    • pg 766, Table 11 - Air cooled, vee type engines: Wolseley Renault 90°V8/80hp/B=4.13in~105mm/St=5.12in~130mm/549.5cu.in/4.16compress/102bhp/1800rpm
      • 1538ft/min piston speed; 0.66/0.055 lbs fuel/oil consumption per bhp*h; 500 lbs engine dry weight
    • pg 767, Text, Renault water cooled 240 hp 50°V12 Bore/Stroke 124mm/150mm, 1200 rpm normal speed

Air cooled

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  • Aeronautics, Vol. 9, page 180, November 1911
    • depicts French Wright aeroplane with Renault V8 fan cooled engine
    • engine set aside fuselage/nacelle, chain drive to propellers, transverse engine mounts, carburettor not mounted on top
  • Aeronautics, Vol. 10, page 65, February 1912
    • depicts French Wright aeroplane with 70hp Renault V8 fan cooled engine
    • engine set aside fuselage/nacelle, chain drive to propellers, carburettor on side, warm air intake around exhaust
    • nice frontal view of fan
  • Heri Petit, Les moteurs, 1922 (http://books.google.at/books?id=WWQNAQAAMAAJ)
    • page 145: picture of fan cooled de dion vee-8
    • page 160, 161: pictures of fan cooled 70hp Renault vee-8
    • page 153: picture of 180 hp liquid cooled Renault straight-8 with reduction gear
  • AEROMOTORS EXHIBITED AT THE PARIS AERO SALON, Flight 1912, page 1080
    • Table lists Renault and Dion engine (amongst others):
      • Renault 25hp fan cooled V4, 90/120mm, 1800rpm, 242 lbs (ca 110 kg)
      • Renault 40hp fan cooled V8, 75/120mm, 1800rpm, 242 lbs (ca 110 kg)
      • Renault 50-60hp fan cooled V8, 90/120mm, 1800rpm, 374 lbs (ca 170 kg)
      • Renault 70hp fan cooled V8, 96/120mm, 1800rpm, 396 lbs (ca 180 kg)
      • Renault 100hp fan cooled V12, 96/120mm (?), 1800rpm, 638 lbs (ca 290 kg)
      • De Dion 80 hp air cooled V8, 100/120mm, 1700rpm, 484 lbs (ca 220 kg)
      • De Dion 150 hp water cooled V8, 125/150mm, 1600rpm, 968 lbs (ca 440 kg)
    • Note: Tabulated particulars compiled, with the assistance of L'Aero, from data supplied by the manufacturers.
  • Gerard Hartmannn - 1908 année de l’aéronat (http://www.hydroretro.net/etudegh/1908_annee_de_l_aeronat.pdf)
    • page 28: Describes early Renault V8 (~50cv): ca. 180kg (less later); steel pistons (aluminium later); constant flow carb (François Baverey, founder of Zenith), previously pump carb (as in Antoinette)
    • several pages state other Renault engine weighs (150/170/190kg)
  • Siegmund Huppert - Leitfaden der Flugtechnik, 1913 (http://books.google.at/books?id=d7NFAAAAMAAJ)
    • picture and description of 90 hp fan-cooled Renault 12 cylinder 60° Vee engine on page 333
    • Bore/Stroke = 96mm/140mm, 1850 rpm, 90 hp, 290kg
  • Renault et l'aviation, La Vie au Grand Air, 1910 July 2
    • pictures, text: biplan Farman, Renault V4, Renault 60 ch V8, no dimensions given
  • Le Moteurs d'Aviation, La Vie au Grand Air, 1910 October 29
    • mentions Renault V4 and V8, no dimensions, no pictures

Liquid cooled

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  • Henry Woodhouse - Textbook of applied aeronautic engineering, 1920, page 125 (http://www.archive.org/details/textbookofapplie00woodrich)
    • page 125 shows installation of a water cooled 190 hp Renault (1550-1600 rpm) in an A.R.1
    • page 127: [A.R.1] "The exhaust gases are carried outwards to each side through short collectors. With the older motors the exhaust from both rows of cylinders was carried inwards to a common collector carrying up [...]"
    • also many other good drawings ow ww1 and post war aeroplanes

Renault 90/120mm V8 (2 fans, ca. 1908)

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  • Ueber die Konstruktion der Flugmotoren., Der Motorwagen 1908 Volume 1, pages 269-281
    • Renault engine (90/120mm, 2 fans, 130kg), estimated 42hp, pictures
  • Fritz Huth, Luftfahrzeugbau: Konstruktion von Luftschiffen und Flugmaschinen, 2. Auflage 1910

Renault 35 hp V8 (ca. 1911)

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Renault 45-55 hp V8 (90mm x 120mm), c.1909

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  • THE FIRST PARIS AERONAUTICAL SALON - ENGINES FOR AEROPLANES, Flight 1909 (Jan 16 and 23), pages 33-35 46-49
    • [1] lists 45hp@1500rpm Renault V8 aircooled, 90mm/120mm, 145 kg, 40 hp R.A.C. rating
    • 45hp Renault V8 air cooled picture and short description (page 46)
    • details from picture (page 46) propeller driven off camshaft, flat crankcase w/o traversing mounting tubes, conical fan housing, carburetor on top centrally, exhaust pipes facing down
  • AERO-MOTORS AT OLYMPIA, Flight 1909 (Apr 3 and 10), pages 193-197 205-208
    • Table lists 50hp Renault V8 air-cooled, 90mm/120mm, 1600rpm, 264 lbs (ca 120 kg), 520£
    • 50hp Renault V8 air cooled picture and description (page 207)
    • details from picture (page 207) propeller driven off camshaft, flat crankcase w/o traversing mounting tubes, conical fan housing, carburetor on top centrally, exhaust pipes facing down
  • The aero manual, 1st Ed, 1909, Compiled by the staff of 'The Motor'
    • pages 152-153 depict and describe Renault fan cooled V8
    • 55hp@1800rpm, 375 lbs (ca 170 kg) in running order w/o fuel, 90mm x 120mm
    • two rows of cylinders slightly offset, rods side by side on crankpin

Renault 50-60 hp V8 (90mm x 120mm), c.1910

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Renault 90/100 hp V12

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  • Airplane Engine Encyclopedia, Angle Glenn, 1921
    • page 414 lists Renault air cooled V12 engines
      • 90 hp V12@60°, 90/140mm, 638 lbs
      • 100 hp V12@60°, 96/140mm, 1800rpm, 639 lbs (ca 290 kg), depicted (double carburetor mounted on one side centrally)
      • 130 hp V12@90°, 105/130mm (same dimensions as Renault 80 hp V8, see Renault 130 hp V12)
  • Description and Drawing (1913-1914), 5e Exposition Internationale de Locomotion Aérienne vom 5.-25. Dez.1913., Ansbert Vorreiter, Zeitschrift für Flugtechnik und Motorluftschiffahrt, Vol.5 1914, pages 67-67 and 82-85
    • drawings fig.90-91 (page 67-68): stroke/bore ratio around 1.55-1.60, closer to 90mm x 140mm (90hp!) than to 96mm x 140mm
    • fig.94-98 on page 69 show details of carburetor and ignition
    • pages 82 and 85 (table): normal Renault 70hp V8 engine, 96mm x 120mm, also available without cooling fan
    • pages 82 and 85 (table): new Renault 100hp V12 engine, 96mm x 140mm, with articlulated rods
    • pages 82 and 85 (table): De Dion-Bouton 80hp V8 engine, 106mm x 120mm , separate reduction gear for propeller shaft, because usage of camshaft is patented

Renault 130 hp V12

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  • DIE DEUTSCHE LUFT-KRIEGSBEUTE-AUSSTELLUNG., Dipl.-Ing. Roland Eisenlohr., Deutsche Luftfahrt v.21 1917; no.3-4 p.18-20, no.5-6 p.13-19, no.7-8 p.13-15
    • no.3-4 p.18-20: Nieuport
    • no.5-6 p.15: depiction of Farman F.40 nacelle with 'Renault 120PS' engine, description on page 17
    • no.5-6 p.13-19: B.E.12, F.E.2b, Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter, Farman, Voisin, Caudron G.4. (the one with the harlekin emblem)
    • no.7-8 p.13-15: Sopwith Tabloid, F.B.A.

De Dion 80hp, 130hp

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  • Aeronautics, No. 4 February 1914, page 52
    • Engines from Paris Aeronautical Salon
    • De Dion 80hp air cooled V8, 1,800rpm, 465 lbs, 106/120mm air cooled V8 (4 3/16 in x 4 3/4 in)
    • picture, slightly different looking from 1912 (gallica) version (readable inscription on crankcase: DE DION BOUTON)

List of Renault Aero Engines (WIP)

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  • Renault A?
    • 1908 V8 à 90° type 8 A de 50 ch Breguet, Witzig, Busson 6 litres refroidi par air 15 (Hartmann)
    • 1909 V8 à 90° type 8 Aa de 60 ch Biplans Champel, Sommer Régime porté à 1800 t. 30 (Hartmann)
    • 1909 V8 à 90° type 8 Ab de 70 ch Biplans Sanchez-Besa, Astra Alésage porté à 96 mm 100 (Hartmann)
  • Renault 8B, 8 cyl V90°:
    • 1910 V4 à 90° type 4 B de 20 ch Destiné aux monoplans 3 litres refroidi par air 5 (Hartmann)
    • 1911 V8 à 90° type 8 B de 30 ch Destine aux monoplans Alésage réduit 70 mm 10 (Hartmann)
  • Renault 8C, 8 cyl V90°: 8C 70ch*, 8Ca 80ch* (*Hartmann)
    • 1912 V8 à 90° type 8 C de 70 ch Biplans M Farman Nouvelles culasses 1 100 (F) 230 (GB) (Hartmann)
    • 1913 V8 à 90° type 8 Ca 80 ch Appareils britanniques Alésage 105 mm 2 206 (GB) (Hartmann)
  • Renault 12D, 12 cyl V90°: 12D 90ch*, 12Da 100ch*, 12Db 120ch*/130hp+, 12Dc 130ch (*Hartmann, +Brussels museum)
    • 1911 V12 à 50° type 12 D 90 ch Biplans Breguet, M Farman Nouvel embiellage 130 (Hartmann)
    • 1912 V12 à 50° type 12 Da 100 ch Victoire à Saint-Malo 1912 Carburateur à filtres 35 (Hartmann)
    • 1913 V12 à 50° type 12 Da 110 ch Saison des courses 1913 Moteur allégé 12 (Hartmann)
    • 1913 V12 à 50° type 12 Db 120 ch MF-11, Caudron R4 Renaux à Deauville 1 800 (Hartmann)
    • 1914 V12 à 50° type 12 Dc 130 ch Biplans MF-11 et F.40, Caudron R-19 Moteur de 19 litres refroidi par air 2 900 (Hartmann)
  • Renault 12E, 12 cyl V50°: 12E 200ch*, 12Eb 220ch*, 12Ec 235ch* (*Hartmann)
    • 1915 V12 à 50° type 12 E 200 ch Bombardier Paul Schmitt Refroidissement à eau 60 (Hartmann)
    • 1916 V12 à 50° type 12 Eb 220 ch Breguet-Michelin type 5 B2 Programme M4 550 (Hartmann)
    • 1917 V12 à 50° type 12 Ec 235 ch Breguet-Michelin type 5 Ca2 Programme M4 550 (Hartmann)
  • Renault 12F, 12 cyl V50°: 12F 250ch*, 12Fb 265ch*, 12Fc 280ch*, Fe 300ch*/320ch* (*Hartmann)
    • 1916 V12 à 50° type 12 F 250 ch Breguet XIV prototype Mot. d’homologation 12 (Hartmann)
    • 1917 V12 à 50° type 12 Fb 265 ch Paul Schmitt type 7 Version série du SBR * 125 (Hartmann)
    • 1917 V12 à 50° type 12 Fc 280 ch Breguet 14 A2 Versions 1917 450 (Hartmann)
    • 1917 V12 à 50° type 12 Fe 300 à 320 ch Voisin 10, Breguet 14 A2 et B2, Breguet 16 Bn2, hydravion Lévy-Besson, Potez 15, Farman 60, 61 et 70, Latécoère 14, 16 et 17 Plus grande série jamais construite chez Renault, essais turbocompresseur Rateau 5 300 (Hartmann)
  • Renault 8G, 8 cyl V50°: 8G 140ch*, 8Ga 150ch*, 8Gb 160ch*, 8Gc 175ch*, 8Gd 190ch*, 8Ge 200ch* (*Hartmann)
    • 1913 V8 à 90° type 8 G 140 ch Farman F 40 Moteur de 12 litres refroidi par eau 5 (Hartmann)
    • 1914 V8 à 90° type 8 Ga 150 ch Farman F.40 Appareils français 200 (Hartmann)
    • 1915 V8 à 90° type 8 Gb 160 ch Farman F.40 Appareils britanniques 300 (Hartmann)
    • 1916 V8 à 90° type 8 Gc de 175 ch Farman 40 Premières versions 20 (Hartmann)
    • 1917 V8 à 50° type 8 Gd 190 ch Dorand AR1, Farman 80 120 (Hartmann)
    • 1918 V8 à 90° type 8 Ge 200 ch Dorand AR2 Dernier V8 Renault 160 (Hartmann)

Measurements taken from Renault engine drawings (WIP)

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Engine
config.		 Stroke/Bore
(numeric ratio)		 Bore/Stroke
(numeric ratio)		 Cyl. bank
angle		 Description Source Comment
V12@liq 140/119 = ? 0.85 50° The 220 H.P Renault Aero Engine finemodelworks (front) rescaled and rotated
V12@liq 87.2968/72.3781 = 1.2061 0.8291 47.85° * Moteur Renault type 12 E 1916 développant 220ch (Dessin Manuel d’aviation de la première guerre mondiale) Hartmann - renault.pdf measurement aligned, left cyl. row (front), *distortions not compensated
V12@liq 87.2968/72.8282 = 1.1987 0.8343 47.85° * Moteur Renault type 12 E 1916 développant 220ch (Dessin Manuel d’aviation de la première guerre mondiale) Hartmann - renault.pdf measurement aligned, right cyl. row (front), *distortions not compensated
V12@liq 143.2867/111.9055 = 1.2804 0.7810 47.36° * 300 H.P. Renault end section Sherbondy,Wardrop: page 235 measurement aligned, left cyl. row (front), *distortions not compensated
V12@liq 143.2867/111.6840 = 1.2830 0.7794 47.36° * 300 H.P. Renault end section Sherbondy,Wardrop: page 235 measurement aligned, right cyl. row (front), *distortions not compensated

Table of Renault engine bore/stroke and their ratio

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Bore/Stroke Bore
[mm]		 Stroke
[mm]		 Stroke/Bore Displacement
per Cyl.		 Comment
0.5833 70 mm (2.756 in) 120 mm (4.724 in) 1.7143 0.46 L (28.071 cu in)
0.6250 75 mm (2.953 in) 120 mm (4.724 in) 1.6000 0.53 L (32.343 cu in)
0.6857 96 mm (3.780 in) 140 mm (5.512 in) 1.4583 1.01 L (61.634 cu in)
0.7500 90 mm (3.543 in) 120 mm (4.724 in) 1.3333 0.76 L (46.378 cu in)
0.7813 125 mm (4.921 in) 160 mm (6.299 in) 1.2800 1.96 L (119.607 cu in) Sherbondy, Wardrop, drawing/description "300 H.P. Renault" on page 235/240
0.8000 96 mm (3.780 in) 120 mm (4.724 in) 1.2500 0.87 L (53.091 cu in)
0.8077 105 mm (4.134 in) 130 mm (5.118 in) 1.2381 1.13 L (68.957 cu in)
0.8333 125 mm (4.921 in) 150 mm (5.906 in) 1.2000 1.84 L (112.284 cu in)
0.8462 110 mm (4.331 in) 130 mm (5.118 in) 1.1818 1.24 L (75.669 cu in)
0.8571 120 mm (4.724 in) 140 mm (5.512 in) 1.1667 1.58 L (96.418 cu in)

Dimensions from Renault engines according to sources (WIP)

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Renault, air cooled:

Type
[Hartmann]		 Engine
config.		 Bore /
Stroke
(mm)		 hp rpm total
mass
(kg)		 piston
speed
(ft/min)		 price Description Source
(year)		 Comment
Type 4 B 1910 V4/air/90°* - 25 - - ? - - [AZPARIS09] *pic
Type 4 B 1910 V4/air/90°* - 25 - - ? - - [AZPARIS10] *pic
Type 4 B 1910 V4/air/- 90/120 25 1800 110 ? 220£ Renault Carb [FLPARIS12]
Type 4 B 1910 V4/air/90° 90/120 25 1800 110* - - np=59.2lb/in2, 33.4bhp@1200rpm, Prop on camshaft, Fan [FLCLARK12] *no flywheel
V8/air/- 75/120 40 1800 110 ? 340£ Renault Carb, 3.8/0.11 gal/h (Fuel/Oil) [FLPARIS12]
V8/air/90° 75/120 40 1800 110* - - np=68.1lb/in2, 53.4bhp@1200rpm, Prop on camshaft, no Fan [FLCLARK12] *no flywheel
Type 8 B 1911 V8/air/90°* 70/120 40 - 110 - 340£ Fan [FLOLYMP13] *txt
Type 8 B 1911 V8/air/90° 70/120 40 1800 110 1420 $1650 prop not on camshaft? [MCCOULL15]
V8/air/- - 40 - - - 320£ - [FLOLYMP14] pg. 272 & 337
V8/air/- 75/120 40 1800 96 ? 8000F [FLPARIS13] data from text
Type 8 A 1908 V8/air/90° 90/120 - - 130 ? - Renault Carb, Propeller on cankshaft, 2 fans, estimated 42 PS [HUTH10] pg. 242-246
Type 8 A 1908 V8/air/90° 90/120 45 1900 150 ? - "square cooling flanges", 2 fans, normal rpm=950 [SA1671S08] pg 30
Type 8 Aa 1909 V8/air/- 90/120 50-60 1800 170 ? 420£ Renault Carb [FLPARIS12]
Type 8 Aa 1909 V8/air/90° 90/120 55 1800 170* - - np=65.0lb/in2, 73.4bhp@1200rpm, Prop on camshaft, Fan [FLCLARK12] *no flywheel
Type 8 Aa 1909 V8/air/90° 90/120 50 1800 170 1420 $2040 prop not on camshaft? [MCCOULL15]
Type 8 Aa 1909 V8/air/90° 90/120 60ch 1800 160* ? - "Moteur de 50 chevaux", fuel 310gr/(h*ch) , oil 2.3 l/h [MARTINO18] *running order
V8/air/- 96/120 70 1800 180 ? 480£ Renault Carb, 7.7/0.22 gal/h (Fuel/Oil) [FLPARIS12]
V8/air/90°* 96/120 70 1800 180 1420 12000F 1 magneto (camshaft)* [FLPARIS13] *txt
V8/air/90°* 96/140 70 - 180 - 480£ Fan [FLOLYMP13] *txt
V8/air/90° 96/140 70 1800 180 1660 $2330 prop on camshaft, 0.64/0.045 lbs/(hp*h) fuel/oil [MCCOULL15]
V8/air/90°* 96/120 70 1800 181 - 480£ 0.64pints/(bhp*h) (fuel); Cast Iron Cyl. [FLOLYMP14] *txt/pic pg.272
V8/air/90° 96/120 70ch 1800 200 ? - "type 70 chevaux", 33/2.5 l/h (fuel/oil) [MARTINO18]
V8/air/90° 96/120 78 1800 180* - - np=79.8lb/in2, 102.6bhp@1200rpm, Prop on camshaft, no Fan [FLCLARK12] *no flywheel
V8/air/90° 96/120 78 1800 180* - - np=72.6lb/in2, 0.64/0.045 lb/(bhp*h) (Fuel/Oil), 21.37 % Brake therm. efficiency, 102.6bhp@1200rpm, 3.2/0.225 lb/(bhp*5hrs) @1200rpm (Fuel/Oil) [FLCLARK12] *no flywheel on this motor
Type 8 Ca 1913 V8/air/90° 105/130 80 1800 227* 1538 - 549.5 cu in, compression 4.16, 102bhp, 0.66/0.055 lbs fuel/oil per bhp*h; B.M.E.P.=82; 21.05 Brake therm. eff. [CHROLTN21] pg 766, Table 11, *dry
Type 8 Ca 1913 V8/???/90°* 105/130 85ch ? 225 ? - mounting heads of rods like R.E.P. & Clerget [MARTINO18] *same general system
V12/air/- 96/120 100 1800 289 ? 680£ Renault Carb, 11/0.66 gal/h (Fuel/Oil) [FLPARIS12]
V12/air/60° 96/120 100 1800 290* - - np=79.8lb/in2, 133.4bhp@1200rpm, Fan [FLCLARK12] *no flywheel
V12/air/60° 96/140 90 1800 290 ? - prop on camshaft, fan on crankshaft [HUPPERT13]
V12/air/60°* 96/140 90-100 - 290 - 680£ Fan [FLOLYMP13] *txt
V12/air/60°* 96/140 100 1800 290 - 680£ 0.64pints/(bhp*h) (fuel); Cast Iron Cyl. [FLOLYMP14] *txt/pic pg.272
V12/air/60°* 96/140 100 1800 289 1655 17000F 2 magnetos (camshaft)* [FLPARIS13] cf. Flight 1912, pg.998; *txt
V12/air/60° 96/140 100 1800 290 1660 $3300 prop on camshaft [MCCOULL15]
V12/air/- 96/140 - 1800 217* 1654 - Wolseley-Renault 1914, 113.5bhp, 0.66lb fuel/bhp*h, 392 kg (incl 4h fuel/oil), brake M.P.=33.64 lb in2 [CHORLTN21] pg 756, Table 5, *dry
V12/air/90° 96/120 120ch 1800? 300 ? - 2 magnetos [MARTINO18]

Renault, liquid cooled:

Engine
config.		 Bore/Stroke
(mm)		 hp rpm total
weight		 piston
speed
(ft/min)		 Description Source
(year)		 Comment
I4/liq 110/160 38.5 1100 286 lbs (dry) 1155 before 1910, B.M.E.P.=74.71 lb in2; [CHORLTN21] pg 753
V8/liq/- ? 130-150ch ? ? - - [MARTINO18]
V12/liq/50° 125/150 220 1300 951 lbs (dry) 1081 compression 4.36; 225bhp, 1348cu.in, 0.53/0.062 lbs fuel/oil per bhp*h [CHORLTN21] pg 765
V12/liq/50° 124/150 240 1200 ? - 1200 rpm normal speed, 25.81% Brake therm. eff. [CHORLTN21]

De Dion:

Engine
config.		 Bore/Stroke
(actual values)		 Cyl. bank
angle		 hp rpm total
weight		 piston
speed		 price Description Source
(year)		 Comment
V8/air 100mm/120mm - 80 1700 220 kg - 480£ DeDion Carb, 7/0.44 gal/h (Fuel/Oil) [FLPARIS12]
V8/air 100mm/120mm 90° 80+ 1700 220*kg - - np=79.9lb/in2, 55.7bhp@1200rpm, Prop on camshaft [FLCLARK12] +metric; *no flywheel
V8/air 100mm/120mm 90° - - - - - blower fan [FLDDION13]
V8/air 100mm/120mm 90° 80 1700 200 kg 1340ft/min $2340 50lbs/(hp*h) fuel, [MCCOULL15]
V8/air 104mm/120mm 90° 80ch 1800 213 kg - - 35/3 l/h (fuel/oil); ext. like Renault; L/W/H=1324/960/940mm [MARTINO18]
V8/air 106mm/120mm 90° * 80 1800 211 kg 1420ft/min 13000F blade&fork* [FLPARIS13] cf. Flight 1912, pg.998; *txt
V8/liq 120mm/130mm 90° * 80ch ? 220 kg - - cast iron cyl. pairs with water jacket; fork&blade [MARTINO18] *pic
V8/liq * 90° * 140ch ? ? - - * like 80ch V8/liq from [MARTINO18] but greater dimensions [MARTINO18]
V8/liq 125mm/150mm - 150 1600 439 kg - - DeDion Carb, 10.5/0.7 gal/h (Fuel/Oil) [FLPARIS12]
V8/liq 125mm/150mm 90° 150+ 1600 439*kg - - np=81.5lb/in2, 110.9bhp@1200rpm [FLCLARK12] +metric; *no flywheel/water/pipeing


Sources:

Aircraft equipped with Renault engines (WIP)

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According to aviafrance.com (WIP)

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Engine Power [ch] Aircraft Year
Renault 8B 70 Farman MF-6 1911
Renault 70 Farman MF-7 1913
Renault 8C 100 Farman MF-8 1913
Renault 8B 70 Farman MF-9 1913
Renault 100 Farman MF-11 1914
Renault 12Fa 220 Farman HF-36 1916
Renault 8Gc 160 Farman F-40bis 1916
Renault 8C 130 Farman F-1,40 1916
Renault 8C 130 Farman F-40 1915
Renault 8Ga 160 Farman F-1,40 bis type 60 1916
Renault 8B 80 Farman F-41 1915
Renault 8B 80 Farman F-41 H 1917
Renault 8B 80 Farman F-1,41 type 70 1916
Renault 12Fa 220 Farman F-43 1916
Renault 8Gc 170 Farman F-45 1916
Renault 8B 80 Farman F-1,46 1918
Renault 8B 80 Farman F-46 1918
Renault 8B 80 Farman F-46 1918

According to Davilla, Soltan - French Aircraft of the First World War (WIP)

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Engine Power [ch] Aircraft (Army type) Year pages comment
Renault 8Gd 190 A.R.1 1916 37
Renault 8Gd/Gdx 190 A.R.2 1916 37
Renault 12d ? A.R.1 D2 Trainer 1916 37 maybe a Renault 12Db 130hp
Renault 12Db 130 Caudron R.4 1917 166 some good photos of engine installation
Renault 8B 70 Maurice Farman M.F.2 1911 206
Renault 8B 70 Maurice Farman M.F.6 1911 206
Renault 8B 70 Maurice Farman M.F.7 1913 222
Renault 8B 80 Maurice Farman M.F.11 1914 223, 232
Renault 8C 130 Maurice Farman M.F.11bis 1914 223, 232
Renault 8C 100 Maurice Farman M.F.11bis (Type 27) 1914 223, 232
Renault 8C 100 Maurice Farman M.F.12 (Type 26) 1914 232
Renault 8C 130 Farman F.40 (Type 26) 1915 234, 240
Renault 8Gc 160 Farman F.40bis (Type 56) 1915 234, 240 water cooled (see picture page 235)
Renault 8B 80 Farman F.41 1915 241
Renault 8B 80 Farman F.1,41 (Type 70) 1916 242
Renault 8C 130 Farman F.1,40 (Type 40) 1916 242
Renault 8C 160 Farman F.1,40bis (Type 60) 1916 242 water cooled (see pictures page 243)

Other

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Aircraft Year Engine Configuration visible features Reference
Maurice Farman M.F.7 1913 Renault 80 hp or 70 hp? V8@90° air
B.E.1 1912 Renault 60 hp V8@90° air Munson
B.E.2 1912 Renault 70 hp V8@90° air Munson
B.E.2a 1912 Renault 60 hp? V8@90° air
B.E.2b ? Renault 70 hp V8@90° air
B.E.2c 1914 Renault 70 hp V8@90° air
Farman F.40 1915 Renault 135 of 140? hp V12@90°? push, ex.u, one photo with water cooler? http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3307/4626550430_00d0049fd7_z.jpg
Voisin 10 Renault 300 hp V12@50° liq, ovhd, ex.c, in.o
Caudron R.4 1915 Renault 12Db 130 hp 2x V12@90° air Caudron R.4
Dorand AR.1 ? ? V8@? liq?
Breguet 14 1917 Renault 300 hp V12@50°? liq, ovhd, ex.c, in.o

ad. Farman F 40:

features legend:

abbrev feature
air air cooling
liq liquid cooling
ovhd overhead camshaft
push pushrods visible
ex.c exhaust to the center
ex.u exhaust to the inner/upper side of the cylinders
in.c intake in the center
in.o intake on the outside

Renault aircooled aero engines (WIP)

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Renault liquid cooled V-8 aero engines (WIP)

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Engine Bore/Stroke compression type Rated
HP		 Rated
RPM		 Normal
HP		 Normal
RPM		 Max
HP		 Max
RPM 		weight Magnetos Water pumps Comment
Renault 170 hp 125/150 Vee 50° 170 1300 183 1400 190 1450 4 2 [1]
Renault 125/150 4.5 Vee 50° ? ? ? ? 198 1550 474 lbs 4 1 [2]
Renault 200 hp 125/150 5.0 Vee 47.5° 200 1800 ? ? 210 1840 510 lbs (dry) 4 2 [3]

Renault liquid cooled V-12 aero engines (WIP)

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References (WIP)

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  1. ^ RENAULT Moteur d'Aviation 170 HP 8 cylindres. Engine Manual.
  2. ^ Glenn D. Angle. Airplane Engine Encyclopedia. The Otterbein press. 1921
  3. ^ E. H. Sherbondy and G. Douglas Wardrop. Textbook of aero engines. Frederick A. Stokes. New York. 1920
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