Module talk:Sidebar

Templatestyles parameter

@Izno: Are there still benefits of the caller templates using the numerous parameters |templatestyles=, |child templatestyles=, and |grandchild templatestyles= over a simple <templatestyles> in each? 172.97.141.219 (talk) 10:39, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

Yes. Using the dedicated parameter allows you to use the cascading part of CSS, namely that the CSS in the child will apply after, not before the core TemplateStyles. This avoids the case where the child's styles are potentially overridden by styles of the same specificity in the core styles. You should generally always use these parameters. Izno (talk) 06:03, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

Treating Module:Navbar/styles.css

@Izno: Is it right not to treat Module:Navbar/styles.css in add_list_styles() whether sidebar has a navbar or not? If an article page transcludes a sidebar (with a navbar) and another navbar in this order, the styles doesn't seem to be applied on mobile view. 本日晴天 (talk) 15:42, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

add_list_styles is just for the two kinds of lists and is about the classes that have been added since eternity in the several templates (infobox also). Both navbox and sidebar have instead move_hiding_templatestyles which will take care of embedded TemplateStyles tags. Izno (talk) 17:32, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Okay, but on some pages (ex. Finder_(software)) on mobile view, navbars are actually displayed in unintended styles because Module:Navbar/styles.css isn't used. How about modifying this module like this and output an additional templatestyles tag if navbar is used? 本日晴天 (talk) 08:19, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

Option to omit nomobile?

@Izno: At Module talk:Sidebar/Archive 6#How to override "class=nomobile" to display sidebar in mobile view? you said "This cannot be overridden and that will not change". Did you only mean that there is no way to override an existing class=nomobile, or did you rule out adding a new sidebar option like mobile=yes to omit class=nomobile? I came from a discussion about {{NGC objects}} at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2025 January 4#Template:NGC objects. A long list is split into intervals so the articles are closer tied together than normal sidebars and this sidebar is very narrow. I think an option to omit nomobile would sometimes be nice. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:45, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Ruling both out. I can reinstate vertical-navbox if we prefer just to make it more opaque ;). It's not about how narrow or wide sidebars are, it's about how much HTML they dump into the page that isn't used in mobile. Izno (talk) 20:19, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Which maybe doesn't make my true preference clear of course - which is that everything is displayed at all resolutions (or at least until this module is deleted, which is probably my truest preference, for various reasons). What I'm doing is respecting the WMF's choice to remove these elements from mobile. Izno (talk) 20:22, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Should there be a way to automatically open up the relevant section of the sidebar?

After Template:Feminism sidebar got reorganized, a bunch of transclusions no longer automatically expand the correct section. For example, the article Feminist theory in composition studies automatically expands the "Concepts" section even though the article is now listed under the "Theory" section. Something I realized is that expanding the section that contains a link to the current article might be something that could be done automatically, so that editors no longer have to manually specify the section to auto-expand on every article where a sidebar is included. PBZE (talk) 19:39, 27 January 2025 (UTC)