Talk:Zhang Zhen (diplomat, born 1936)

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Requested move 31 January 2018

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: consensus to move the pages, per the discussion below. For the time being, I have used the birth year, as this is an unalienable characteristic; it may not be an issue here, but this sort of disambiguation shouldn't require additional moves whenever citizenships or postings change. Please feel free to reinitiate a discussion to move to the country names if necessary, however. Dekimasuよ! 18:39, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Zhang Zhen (diplomat) → Zhang Zhen (Ambassador of China to Jordan and Syria) – Or something better, but the current title isn't precise. I think Zhang Zhen (Ambassador of China to Ukraine) can be moved to Zhang Zhen (diplomat, born 1930), but I can't determine the other guy's birth year. (They have different names in Chinese.) Are ambassadors inherently notable? Timmyshin (talk) 07:41, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support I've sourced the d.o.b., but it was a pretty obscure source. Not all ambassadors are notable, but given this is the PRC in the context of diplomatic jockeying with Taiwan I'd say the Jordan one is certainly notable. And first Chinese ambassador to independent Ukraine yes that too. The proposed country disambiguation is a much much better solution that 1936 v 1930, these aren't footballers. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:54, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support Zhang Zhen (diplomat, born 1930) and Zhang Zhen (diplomat, born 1936). This clearly disambiguates the article titles and that's all we need without the unnecessary wordiness of the other option. Hatnotes and dabpages are quite sufficient for full disambiguation. However, if "Ambassador of China to Foo" is used then surely it should be "ambassador of China to Foo", lower case, just like, say, Matthew Hutton (archbishop of Canterbury). -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:53, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Pretty neutral, but I'd be down with anything. I'd be good with supporting the requested move or supporting Zhang Zhen (diplomat, born 1930) and Zhang Zhen (diplomat, born 1936). Paintspot Infez (talk) 17:18, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support Zhang Zhen (diplomat, born 1930) and Zhang Zhen (diplomat, born 1936), and, better yet, merge all these minuscule pages into ~~List of ambassadors of China~~, Alphabetical list of ambassadors of China, since there is no content in them. Staszek Lem (talk)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.