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There must be translation[edit]

This page needs to be translated into a scientific Turkish page that contains more data. It is full of very inaccurate, biased and debunkable information. The Turkish version contains many more sources and scientific data. In order to introduce the Zaza people, it would be appropriate to translate them into the language of the country where they live. Zazaki wikipedia can help you with this. [Zazas, (Wikipeda Turkish Language)] [Zazas, (Wikipedia Zazaki Language)] Deylemi (talk) 15:49, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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“Remove “Zazas generally[8] consider themselves Kurds,[9][6][10][11] and are often described as Zaza Kurds by scholars.” This is a political issue and most of the Zazas consider themselves Zaza.” Adevran (talk) 13:17, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. M.Bitton (talk) 15:03, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The source is even mentioned in the article. The total figures here show that 90% of the Zazas see themselves as a separate ethnic group. The "Kurdification" of the Zaza people is merely political.

"According to a 2015 study that examined the demographics of the voting-age population in the Kurdish inhabited areas in Turkey (Northeast, Central East and Southeast Anatolia statistical regions, n=1918) 12.8% of the people ethnically identified as Zaza, which made Zaza the biggest ethnic identity after Kurdish (73%) in the region. Zaza speakers were more numerous (15%) compared to people who identify with the Zaza ethnic identity, showing that some Zaza speakers identified as other ethnicities, primarily Kurds"

It is a survey made by TESAV.

source: https://www.yada.org.tr/kurt-secmenlerin-oy-verme-dinamikleri-kuzeydogu-ortadogu-ve-guneydogu-anadolu-alt-bolgelerinde-secmenlerin-siyasal-tercihlerinin-sosyolojik-analizi/ Zaza scholar (talk) 03:31, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edit Request: Selfidentification[edit]

Good evening, I would like to ask you to change the points of self-identification, as most Zazas see themselves as a separate ethnic group. I am attaching the Tesav survey.

The total figures here show that 90% of the Zazas see themselves as a separate ethnic group. The "Kurdification" of the Zaza people is merely political. "According to a 2015 study that examined the demographics of the voting-age population in the Kurdish inhabited areas in Turkey (Northeast, Central East and Southeast Anatolia statistical regions, n=1918) 12.8% of the people ethnically identified as Zaza, which made Zaza the biggest ethnic identity after Kurdish (73%) in the region. Zaza speakers were more numerous (15%) compared to people who identify with the Zaza ethnic identity, showing that some Zaza speakers identified as other ethnicities, primarily Kurds" It is a survey made by TESAV. source: https://www.yada.org.tr/kurt-secmenlerin-oy-verme-dinamikleri-kuzeydogu-ortadogu-ve-guneydogu-anadolu-alt-bolgelerinde-secmenlerin-siyasal-tercihlerinin-sosyolojik-analizi/ Martinbreu.89 (talk) 22:37, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]