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Order?

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Are these crossings in south-to-north order? Brianhe 19:54, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Original research?

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User:147.70.242.40 suggested that this list needs documentation. This would seem a) unusually hard to do and b) is rarely done on Wikipedia, see for example List of crossings of the Columbia River or List of crossings of the Saint Lawrence River. While it might be preferable to get a definitive list, would not that list be likely to be quickly out-of-date? I don't see why local knowledge of Wikipedia editors isn't at least as good as an "official" source. -- Brianhe 07:46, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • As for the last comment goes, please refer to WP:V and WP:RS. Undocumented local knowledge can be contested (if there is any doubt, look at the challenges being made at Talk:Ghost ramp as a couple of editors are challenging the "local knowledge" of others who have contributed to the article)... and, in fact, there is a dispute going on if there are indeed reliable sources to support a definition. As for the "rapidly out-of-date" part is concerned, it wouldn't grow as "out-of-date" as articles involving figures in the news, in sports, or the media in general... and articles covering them must also comply with WP:V and WP:RS. In addition, a list that is a sea of red links is rarely a good idea, especially when the bulk of the edits seem to be an edit war that has (hopefully) abated. 147.70.242.40 16:02, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Could we simply put "USGS topographic maps" as the reference? --NE2 07:55, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • If there is a definitive single up-to-date collection to which we could refer, I can't see why not (aside from some that haven't been issued in over two decades); the real problem is finding the documentation for the crossings (especially up-to-date names for the bridges and roads) and the manmade canals, the former being the primary source of the red links. 147.70.242.40 16:02, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I understand that there should be some references addded, but to source every single crossing is an unreasonable request. The information gathered here is derived from many many maps, other Wikipedia articles, and numerous road/bridge websites. I agree with NE2 we should just souce something broad like USGS togographic maps (which are compliled here: [1]) and Rand McNally 2006 North American Road Atlas (page numbers could be added) or something. Not every source has to be online. As for the red links, I agree that most probably shouldn't have links at all, as the bridges/creeks are far from being notable enough for articles.--TinMan 18:50, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

New Articles?

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Could someone try and make the articles on the list? It seems like nearly all of those locations are red, and I do not know enough or have the time to make those articles.--ASDFGHJKL=Greatest Person Ever+Coolest Person Ever 00:01, 3 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Reverse the order of the list?

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This list appears to be ordered down the page south to north and in a similar manner the lists under each State also appear to be ordered down the page south to north. I am suggesting that the list would be more intuitive if this order were reversed. Is there any support or opposition to this proposal?John Sailor (talk) 03:13, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose: The southern terminus is well defined while the northern terminus is unofficial/somewhat-unclear (Norfolk by law, New Jersey under some definitions), so south-to-north would be the best way to remedy clarifying that uncertainty similar to a mathematical Line (mathematics)#Ray. The north end could be extended whereas the southern end is extremely unlikely to be extended unless there's an annexation of Mexico.. There's no rule or guideline that says something has to start in the north that I know of. I just think this fits better because the sister article: Waterways forming and crossings of the Gulf Intracoastal Waterway starts at its southern/western point and moves along the coastline around Florida. If the project were completed, the waterway would continue starting at Key West and moving up the coast so for uniformity with both articles, i'd keep it the way it is. --Triadian (talk) 06:52, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Triadian, all good points.John Sailor (talk) 15:21, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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