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Etymology of phrases "out in the tules," and "tule fog."

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I found a reference to the phrase "out in the tules" on the page for Tulare Lake, a couple of days ago. I grew up in Hanford, California and have always heard and used this phrase, however, I do not know if it is a regional colloquial phrase, or if it has wider use. Today on a national radio program, I heard the phrase used by Rick Steves about travel in Greece.

Also, the same question about the phrase "tule fog." I used the phrase in conversation a few days ago and had to explain it to the listener. Which is how I ended up looking at the page for Tulare Lake in the first place. Anybody got some info on these phrases?Michael J Swassing 01:22, 28 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Reference help please?

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Iʻm trying to reference an edit I made regarding Lucy Moore, the girl who survived the Bloody Island Massacre by breathing through a tule reed, using sources from the Bloody Island Massacre page. I've been out of editing for awhile, and I'm not sure if I'm just rusty or really out of it, but I can't seem to get my refs to work. Help?

There is Sacramento Native American Health Clinic (SNAHC), (916)341-0575. in Sacramento, California. It was rolling a full information video on the subject of Lucy Moore about a couple of years ago. The tv must of broke then the video was not put into use again. They could probably provide the name of the video creators. It was provided by a Pomo tribe and was quite brilliant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Diana almendariz (talkcontribs) 16:51, 26 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Schoenoplectus acutus and Schoenoplectus lacustris

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The article says Schoenoplectus lacustris is a synonym of Schoenoplectus acutus. The articles (iw linked) that use the latter seems to say it is a North American species, like this article, while the ones using the former seem to mostly say it is an Eurasian species.

I wonder whether the confusion is about different species, somewhere said to be the same, or variants of the species, where different wikipedias have article about either the North American or Eurasian variant.

Either way, something has to be done. Either there are errors in multiple wikipedias or there is information left out about the relation between Schoenoplectus lacustris (in Eurasia?) and Schoenoplectus acutus (in North America?).

--LPfi (talk) 06:32, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

tule as a common name

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The use of "tule" as a common name throughout the article seems too California-centric for such a widespread species. "Tule" is, as far as I can tell, unused and unknown across most of the species' range in the US and Canada, where it's generally known as "hardstem bulrush". Should the article use that common name instead, or perhaps use the Latin binomial? Such a change would need to be carried over to the brief description on Schoenoplectus. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:4:D00:14A:211:24FF:FEA5:511B (talk) 22:56, 3 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]