Talk:The Queen's Messenger
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![]() | A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on July 27, 2017. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the 1928 one-act play The Queen's Messenger was the first television drama? | ||||||||||||
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- This review is transcluded from Talk:The Queen's Messenger/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Reviewer: MWright96 (talk · contribs) 13:11, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Going to be reviewing this article as part of the GAN Backlog Drive of April to May 2020. MWright96 (talk) 13:11, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- It is reasonably well written.
- It is factually accurate and verifiable.
- a (reference section):
b (citations to reliable sources):
c (OR):
- a (reference section):
- It is broad in its coverage.
- a (major aspects):
b (focused):
- a (major aspects):
- It follows the neutral point of view policy.
- Fair representation without bias:
- Fair representation without bias:
- It is stable.
- No edit wars, etc.:
- No edit wars, etc.:
- It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
- a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales):
b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales):
- Overall:
- Pass/Fail:
- Pass/Fail:
Lead
[edit]- Think the lead can be expanded to briefly mention the station that broadcast the drama and the date it was shown
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:35, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- "These were received by 3 inch televisions" - the convert template would be better off being used on the text highlighted in bold
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:35, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Background
[edit]- "The cameras picked up the stage action and microphones picked up the sound." - repetition of the phrase "picked up"
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:52, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- "The television signal was received at several points throughout New York City. The broadcast received much publicity." - think these two sentences can be made into one
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:52, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- "The teleplay starred retired star actress Izetta Jewell." - the word "star" isn't needed
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:52, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- "It was noted that in the television receivers she appeared trimmer than in real life" - noted by whom?
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:52, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- "A newspaper article of the time pointed out that even the heavy set opera singer" - observed
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:52, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- " A newspaper article of the time" - May as well mentioned what newspaper we're talking about
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:52, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- "appearing as a John Bull type Englishman." - John Bull-type
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:52, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Plot
[edit]- "A British diplomat has a romantic encounter with a mysterious woman. She is secretly trying to obtain the documents he is carrying." - these two sentences could be better off merged into one
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:18, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- "She is secretly trying to obtain the documents he is carrying." - what are the documents in the drama?
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:18, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Television receivers
[edit]- "The televised play was received on televisions that were octagonally shaped. The television set was about fourteen inches high and ten inches in depth." - how about making this into a single sentence and shortened accordingly
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:33, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- Also the mentions of inches can also be converted into the appropriate measurement with the convert template
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:33, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- "Six televisions were set up around the W G Y studios" - WGY without the spaces
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:33, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- "Six televisions were set up around the W G Y studios for the newspaper reporters that were connected by closed circuit television." - how about Six televisions were set up around the WGY studios and connected by closed circuit television for newspaper journalists. or a similar minor change?
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:33, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- "There were television receivers set up in the transmitting control rooms that received the signal from the air that was transmitted several miles away."- broadcast
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:33, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Special effects
[edit]- "on a three inch television screen display." - "display" isn't needed I believe
- "The director of these props that coordinated everything was Mortimer Steward." - and stage coordinator?
Drawbacks
[edit]- Wikilink General Electric
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:46, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- "that developed into the soap opera.[8][15][7]" - refs in numerical order please
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:46, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- Wikilink scanning drive to the relevant article
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:46, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- "that picked up the image on the stage." - received
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:46, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
References
[edit]- Reference 1 should include Associated Press as the agency that provided the story to The Wilkes-Barre Record
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:05, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- Reference 5 should include International News Service as the agency that provided the story to Journal Gazette
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:05, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- References 3 and 9 look like they are the same story but in different newspapers. Please only use one copy
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:05, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- Reference 15 should mention that International News Service was the agency that provided the story to The Daily Republican
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:05, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- Also Refs 5 and 15 also appear to carry the exact same story from the INS agency. Only one should be used
Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:05, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Will put the review on hold to allow the nominator to address/query the points raised above. MWright96 (talk) 14:52, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- @MWright96: All issues have been addressed. Can you take another look. Thanks. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:05, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Doug Coldwell: Now promoting to GA class. I've made a few changes to the article. MWright96 (talk) 08:33, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
Copyright contributor investigation and Good article reassessment
[edit]This article is part of Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/20210315 and the Good article (GA) drive to reassess and potentially delist over 200 GAs that might contain copyright and other problems. An AN discussion closed with consensus to delist this group of articles en masse, unless a reviewer opens an independent review and can vouch for/verify content of all sources. Please review Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/February 2023 for further information about the GA status of this article, the timeline and process for delisting, and suggestions for improvements. Questions or comments can be made at the project talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:36, 9 February 2023 (UTC)