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Somewhere between a stub and start class. Has references and external links, but no inline citations. Needs an ethnobox, pictures, map, and significant expansion --Miskwito 20:51, 1 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Substituted at 01:15, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

Page implies this Indigenous nation does not exist - false

I'm disputing this implication based on the existence of primary sources like http://www.tataviam-nsn.us/. KylieMBrooks (talk) 13:11, 13 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The contemporary Fernandeño-Tataviam tribe in Los Angeles county is primarily Fernandeño. The Tataviam ceased to exist as a separate, identifiable group in the first half of the 20th century. Even then, virtually all Tataviam were intermarrying with Fernandeño and other Indians (and Europeans). The only reliable linguistic records of the Tataviam language in the early 20th century were from people who only remembered a few words and phrases from their youth--they were already heavily intermarried at that time. The use of the name "Tataviam" in the tribal name has more to do with making a claim to tribal ownership of the Santa Clarita valley (the only region of historic Tataviam occupation) in addition to the San Fernando valley. The "Tataviam language" samples posted on the tribal website are Fernandeño, not Tataviam. --Taivo (talk) 22:40, 13 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Piggybacking on this earlier conversation, the scope of this article is the Tataviam ethnic group. It is not an article about the Fernandeño Tataviam Band of Mission Indians. If that group is sufficiently notable, it should have its own article. Yuchitown (talk) 01:49, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]