Talk:Sous expedition

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April 2024

@Riad Salih, Nourerrahmane, R Prazeres, and Skitash: if you have time, could you please review this "new article"? The article's creator has a history of misrepresenting the sources and pushing a POV with regard to Morocco's irredentism (see their talk page). Thanks. M.Bitton (talk) 00:58, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I always wonder why it's the same gang, always in agreement and always inviting each other to dominate discussions (R Prazeres isn't concerned) 808 AD (talk) 13:08, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I did a quick spot-check of the Aftermath section and partially of the last paragraph of the "Expedition of 1888–95" section, and I can say the text there follows the sources closely. Whether there's any wider POV issue I'm less able to say, as this isn't the period I know most about, but perhaps the title of "Sous expedition" is not the best one, as this seems to cover multiple expeditions to different areas to the south, not just the Sous. By the same token, it's unclear whether all these expeditions fit neatly into a single topic or whether they could be separate articles? Or additions to Hassan I of Morocco instead? R Prazeres (talk) 23:03, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I originally wanted the draft to be titled Sous expedition (1882–1895), but I don't know how or why it didn't show like that in the article title. Once published, I will move it to that title. StaticOasis (talk) 23:55, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding this edit:

In addition, the marabout leader .. is presented as a fact in wikipedia's voice, while in reality, that's what the Moroccan government claimed in 1960s. Besides, what is it doing in the lead?

After Ma al-'Aynayn had forced .. this is the baseless Moroccan nationalist narrative (to justify the irredentism). Here's a proper RS that explains who Ma al-'Aynayn was and his relationship with the Alawites. M.Bitton (talk) 11:43, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't reviewed the sources yet, but it seems that all the sources cited by @StaticOasis are reliable. Could you clarify whether your concern is about possible misrepresentation of these sources by StaticOasis? If so, removing the content might be warranted. Alternatively, if the issue is conflicting information from other sources, it's important to give each claim its due, especially when supported by reliable sources (We do not privilege one source over another, because we shouldn't be biased). Otherwise, I kindly ask you to revert your edit. 808 AD (talk) 23:47, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]