Talk:Satanic panic (Utah)

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Adding a note for actual survivors of Satanic Ritual Abuse:

In 2008, a book was published by a life-long Latter Day Saint whose parents were active in the Church, but secretly involved in Satanic practices, and abused her horrifically. Her parents later confessed, in detail, their Satanic practices and were excommunicated from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

The book is titled "Hell Minus One" by Anne A. Johnson Davis, and includes written and signed confessions by both parents, corroborating her recovered memories. It also has a forward by the retired Lt. Detective assigned to the case from the Utah State Attorney General's office, corroborating the outcome of the investigation.

The book is available on Amazon.com .

It is also believed that in 2008, when Elder Richard G. Scott addressed the Church in General Conference in April 2008, and spoke again about the topic of abuse ["To Heal the Shattering Consequences of Abuse"], that he was correcting his former position (as stated in the Wikipedia article here) by declaring to the victims:

"Do not be discouraged if initially a bishop hesitates when you identify an abuser. Remember that predators are skillful at cultivating a public appearance of piety to mask their despicable acts." And also by declaring to the perpetrators:

"You likely have deceived yourself in the false, temporary security that you have successfully hidden your transgression from the civil or Church authorities." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.182.211.100 (talk • contribs)

As a memoire published by a nonscholarly publishing house, it's useless as anything except one person's quite slanted view of the satanic ritual abuse moral panic. Anne Johnson Davis already has a wikipedia page, and I don't feel that it needs a link from here that strongly (though I could see how a see also could apply). Please don't spam this to many pages to try to up sales figures. WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules:^simple/_complex 19:30, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What part of "Her parents later confessed, in detail, their Satanic practices and were excommunicated from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints." and "It also has a forward by the retired Lt. Detective assigned to the case from the Utah State Attorney General's office, corroborating the outcome of the investigation." could possibly be construed as 'one person's biased opinion'? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:6C67:6180:19AA:B9A4:BE74:3648:6985 (talk) 00:11, 31 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The part where it's all a bunch of made up nonsense for her book. 47.44.49.171 (talk) 09:37, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Re-creating article "The Satanic Ritual Abuse moral panic and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints"

I was about to create this article when I noticed that it already existed 13 years ago, and was collapsed into this article without solid consensus. In fact, there was consensus to KEEP the article at one point. I'll give it a couple weeks or so for comment. I plan to use the title: "The Satanic Ritual Abuse moral panic and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints". 13 years ago there was huge debate here on Wikipedia over the previous title. I added "moral panic", as there is scientific consensus at this point that it was indeed a moral panic. This should also allay concerns of POV that existed previously. Epachamo (talk) 03:42, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. I'm not sure that there's much more to add to the topic than is already included in this article. Perhaps the article should be converted into a broader article? Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 03:18, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Good Olfactory:I think this current article has somewhat expanded beyond the scope of the Pace Memorandum, and could be expanded further. It is also missing various sex abuse trials in Utah, including a high profile one in Lehi, Utah in 1987 where 40 members of the LDS Church were accused of participating in SRA, unrelated to the Pace Memorandum. It doesn't talk discuss Martha Beck, Teal Swan, Anne Johnson Davis or several other notable events unrelated to the Pace Memorandum. The current article discusses 2018 allegations against several leaders of the LDS Church but this has nothing to do with the Pace Memorandum. While the moral panic subsided elsewhere in the United States, it hasn't in the Latter Day Saint community, which is notable. Perhaps it would be best to expand this article and then re-name it. Epachamo (talk) 03:35, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, there is room for growth. I would be fine with renaming this article and expanding it. I don't think it's worthwhile to have two separate articles, though. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 03:37, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Epachamo (talk) 03:44, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Martha Beck

Should this be here? It frankly doesn't seem related to the Satanic Panic in Utah at all, except insofar as it's an accusation of sexual abuse and involves 'recovered memories'. The story first came to prominence in 2005, which is generally regarded as outside of the 'Satanic Panic' period of the 80s and early 90s. SeasonsMan (talk) 13:17, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It totally is related. The satanic panic never really went away in Utah, even when it crested in the 80s/90s. Beck 'recovered' her memories in the early 90s. Epachamo (talk) 17:23, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]