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[edit]Saini are descendants of king shoorsaini — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krishnadaini5566 (talk • contribs) 2024-09-27T14:02:19 (UTC)
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"This article is about the Saini community of Punjab, Haryana, Himachal Pradesh, Jammu and Kashmir, Chandigarh ,Uttar Pradesh and Delhi. For the Mali community who were not recorded as Saini prior to 1937, see Mali caste and Rajput Mali. For the Bhagrathi or Gola community of Western Uttar Pradesh, see Bhagirathi Mali.Not to be confused with Siani or Sinai."
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"This article is about the Saini community of Punjab, Haryana, Himachal Pradesh, Jammu and Kashmir, Chandigarh ,Uttar Pradesh and Delhi. For the Mali community, see Mali caste and Rajput Mali. For the Bhagrathi or Gola community of Western Uttar Pradesh, see Bhagirathi Mali. Not to be confused with Siani or Sinai."
Because Saini community is very much different from Mali community[1], they both are registered separately in the census of 1881, and can be seen in second column where saini mention in last of second column[2] and so on. Also the Mali was included under the Rajput sub-category in the 1891 State Census Report for Marwar.[3]
- References
- Balfour, Edward (1885). The Cyclopædia of India and of Eastern and Southern Asia: Commercial, Industrial and Scientific, Products of the Mineral, Vegetable, and Animal Kingdoms, Useful Arts and Manufactures, Volume 2 (1st ed.). Retrieved June 23, 2021.
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- ^ a b "The Sainis believe that their ancestors were Yadavas and that it was the same lineage in which Krishna was born. In the 43rd generation of the Yadavas there was a king known as Shoor or Sur, the son of King Vidaratha....It was in the name of these, father and son, that the community was known as Shoorsaini or Sursaini." People of India: Haryana, p 430, Kumar Suresh Singh, Madan Lal Sharma, A. K. Bhatia, Anthropological Survey of India, Published by Published on behalf of Anthropological Survey of India by Manohar Publishers, 1994
- ^ Balfour, Edward (1885). The Cyclopædia of India and of Eastern and Southern Asia: Commercial, Industrial and Scientific, Products of the Mineral, Vegetable, and Animal Kingdoms, Useful Arts and Manufactures, Volume 2 (1st ed.). Retrieved June 23, 2021.
- ^ Action sociology and development, pp 198, Bindeshwar Pathak, Concept Publishing Company, 1992
- ^ Action sociology and development, pp 198, Bindeshwar Pathak, Concept Publishing Company, 1992
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.49.116.72 (talk • contribs) 2021-06-23T01:43:25 (UTC)
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Krishnadaini5566 (talk) 17:58, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
Add saini are the descendants of the king shoorsaini
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 19:14, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]saini and mali are two different castes kacchi,koeri and baheniya took surname saini to be protected. wikipedia is showing false information I'm also a saini we do not have any relations with macchiato Koeri Maurya and kushwaha
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the asinine caste is a community found primarily in Punjab Haryana Uttar Pradesh and Punjab region of Pakistan . they are known for their rich culture and history ORIGIN saini caste is believed to have originated from the rajput clan, who ruled over various regions in Punjab Blackrhino2024 (talk) 19:19, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. 𝚈𝚘𝚟𝚝 (𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚔𝚟𝚝) 20:19, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
Addition of topic of Population & Demographics
[edit]Various sources are available for the population of Sainis in different regions that should be added in the Article.
1. Haryana - Sainis make around 8% of the state population and having sizeable presence in various districts.[1][2]
2. Jammu & Kashmir - In Jammu, the community comprises a population of 60000-75000 in numbers.[3][4]
I will provide more data and information on other states soon till then have a look at this and induce it in main article. Patosinh (talk) 06:00, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ [1]https://www.deccanherald.com/opinion/bjps-haryana-dilemma-balancing-obc-consolidation-and-jat-vote-split-3158329
- ^ https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/from-khattar-s-aide-to-cm-the-rise-of-nayab-saini-101710267390498-amp.html
- ^ https://kashmirlife.net/unpreceedented-jammu-sainis-protest-seek-exclusion-from-reservations-305104/
- ^ https://www.thedispatch.in/who-are-the-sainis-listed-as-obcs-but-some-dont-want-reservation/
Notable Saini People
[edit]1. Ajay Banga - President of World Bank [2] 2. M.S. Banga - Former Chairman and CEO of Hindustan Unilever [3] 3. Sandeep Singh - Former Indian Hockey Player and Former Sports Minister of Haryana, Bollywood movie "Soorma" on his life. [4] 4. Nayab Singh Saini - Incumbent Chief Minister of Haryana 5. Satinder Kumar Saini - Former Vice Army Chief of Indian Army [5] 6. Flora Saini - Bollywood Actress (Stree Movie) [6] 7. Navdeep Saini - Indian Cricketer (Fast Bowler) 8. Jessie Singh Saini - Founder of BJS Electronics and an American industrialist [7] 9. Avtar Singh Saini - Former INTEL South Asia Head [8] 10. Satinder Sartaaj (Satinder Pal Singh Saini) - Famous Punjabi Singer https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Satinder_Sartaaj 11. Nek Chand Saini - Creator of Rock Garden of Chandigarh [9] 12. Angela Saini - Famous British Science Journalist and Author [10]
and uncountable more
All basically belongs to Saini Community of Punjab [ Today's Punjab, Haryana, Himachal Pradesh ] and J & K area of India — Preceding unsigned comment added by PSINGH1987 (talk • contribs) 12:34, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
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Castes similar to Sainis in north India are Koeri, Kushwaha, Maurya and Shakya. Over the time, these communities have come together and started inter-marrying among themselves for caste consolidation.
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Castes similar to Sainis in north India are Kamboj and Jatt. The neo-Sainis i.e. Malis who took up the Saini name pre-independence bear similarities to Koeri, Kushwaha, Maurya and Shakya and marry for caste-consolidationCite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page). 223.178.209.246 (talk) 15:29, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Charliehdb (talk) 09:37, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
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Notable Saini Peoples -
- Ajay Banga - President of World Bank
- M.S. Banga - Former Chairman and CEO of Hindustan Unilever
- Sandeep Singh - Former Indian Hockey Player and Former Sports Minister of Haryana, Bollywood movie "Soorma" on his life.
- Nayab Singh Saini - Incumbent Chief Minister of Haryana
- Satinder Kumar Saini - Former Vice Army Chief of Indian Army
- Flora Saini - Bollywood Actress (Stree Movie)
- Navdeep Saini - Indian Cricketer (Fast Bowler)
- Jessie Singh Saini - Founder of BJS Electronics and an American industrialist
- Avtar Singh Saini - Former INTEL South Asia Head
- Satinder Sartaaj (Satinder Pal Singh Saini) - Famous Punjabi Singer
- Nek Chand Saini - Creator of Rock Garden of Chandigarh
- Angela Saini - Famous British Science Journalist and Author
- Baljit Singh Saini - Former Indian Hockey Player
PSINGH1987 (talk) 12:19, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- Just noting that I have wikilinked the individuals above (no other content change). Primefac (talk) 14:42, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose addition of MS Banga and Avtar Singh Saini without article links: no notability demonstrated. Satinder Sartaaj article does not mention Saini at all, so that would need to be substantiated also. No objection to the remainder. LizardJr8 (talk) 00:07, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cooldudeseven7 join in on the tea talk 12:23, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
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114.143.247.102 (talk) 10:16, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
Saini doesn't come under OBC in the states like Punjab and Haryana and no sort of special status is given to them
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Primefac (talk) 13:05, 3 December 2024 (UTC)