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Most Industrialized?

The lower Sabine in Orange County is not that industrialized. I would place it after Buffalo Bayou, the San Jacinto River, the Brazos River, the Rio Grande, and the Neches River on a list of industrialized rivers in Texas, let alone the Southeastern U.S. Perhaps the person who wrote that was thinking of the Neches in and upstream from Port Arthur. AusJeb (talk) 18:56, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pronunciation is incorrect

I am from Texas, and I have always heard the pronunciation of this river to be more like suh-BEAN. I am wondering if someone accidentally assumed the pronunciation from the word Sabine. I tried to find some external reference, but finding a pronunciation via google of a fairly regional place seems difficult. b4hand 18:23, 22 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your comment and based on [[1]], it seems that your local knowledge is dead right! I will put the pronunciation into IPA this way. --Slp1 00:35, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm from Louisiana, and the pronunciation I have always heard is /seiˈbiːn/ (SAY bean). I've heard it pronounced /səˈbiːn/ by people from Texas, but I've never heard it pronounced with the emphasis on the 2nd syllable. I think both pronunciations should be reflected. Gregdanielsonjr (talk) 20:41, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm from Texas and lived there 35 years. I've always heard this pronounced suh-BEAN (emphasis on the second syllable), including Texas History class in 7th grade. I lived & worked in Southeast Louisiana (St. James & St. John The Baptist Parishes) for 6 years and never heard it pronounced differently, and none of my Louisiana coworkers or neighbors ever pronounced this differently nor took issue with this being pronounced suh-BEAN.

I was born and raised in Dallas, then lived in Austin until leaving Texas at age 30, and I always only heard it pronounced suh-BEAN, second syllable stressed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2806:101E:1:F3D2:B4C8:32FD:751E:F93A (talk) 04:01, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Up near Lake Tawakoni around Emory it is pronounced SAH-bin for some reason.

Sabine River is integral to both Texas and Louisiana

The Sabine River is not exclusive to Texas. The river is the border between Texas and Louisiana. The Sabine Free State or "No Man's Land" was on the Louisiana side of the river. However, this article does not reflect the Louisiana side of the Sabine River with unique culture, i.e. Redbone settlement, influence on the East Texas Regulator-Moderator War, and historical significance of the Spanish-American War and the "Wild West". I understand that this is a project initiated in Texas, but please include the full history of the Sabine River, not just the western half - or change the article title to reflect that it only contains information abut the Texas side of the Sabine River. --Mecurl (talk) 17:10, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Discharge claim and sourcing in general

I added a source for the discharge claim, flagged "dubious", in the lead, and then I removed the tag. However, the claim is one that is almost inherently dubious because different reliable sources may say slightly different things about river measurements depending on exactly what is being measured as well as where and when. The claim is also supported in by a bit of text from page 209 of Rivers of North America, edited by Benke and Cushing. It says, "Annual discharge from the Sabine River into the Gulf of Mexico makes it the largest river in Texas by volume (Bartlett 1984)." However, later in the same chapter of Rivers of North America the discharge of the Sabine is given as 238 cubic meters per second, while the discharge of the Brazos is given as 249 cubic meters per second. The internal contradiction (Sabine #1 in one place and Brazos #1 in another in the same reliable source) may stem from a variety of statistical variables and are not, in my opinion, to be taken too seriously. More serious is the lack of sourcing for most of the article. A lot of the article sounds plausible but is not supported by inline citations to reliable sources and therefore fails to meet WP:V. Adding inline citations is quite helpful to other editors who may want to add to the article and would like to read as much background material as possible. Finetooth (talk) 18:41, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Big Sandy Picture

The picture used in this article showing the Sabine River just south of Big Sandy, Texas is not the Sabine River. It is in fact a picture of a small lake just to the north of the river on TX Hwy 155. I know because I grew up in the area and live on the river and cross it mutiple times daily. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.248.194.94 (talk) 19:03, 6 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, I notified the Commons editor. Could you be a little more specific on the location so this can be verified. The image information is vague and you didn't provide the location or name of the lake. Otr500 (talk) 11:42, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]