Talk:Religion and ritual of the Cucuteni–Trypillia culture

Technical note

this article has been written by people who were not specialists in religion or history(i have only engineering degree) but i see the article is too technical :)

, anyway the too technical tag should be moved to discussion page:

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If anyone cares to add a "Class" and "Importance" rating for this article in the categories left undone above, please feel free to do so. Thanks. --Saukkomies ^talk 15:38, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

En Violin artefacts to be added in article

Previously published articles have mentioned various purposes for the bone-made en violon figurines belonging to the Gumelnita culture: arm guard for the archers or pieces used to stretch the bow string, bone anthropomorphic figurines related to the funerary practices or pieces from simple musical instruments. The diversity of the proposed interpretations is due to the „geometrized” shape of the human silhouette, as the profile is made up of simple vertical lines. Considering the lack of written sources, the most import clue for the figurines’ purpose is the archaeological context at the time of their finding. In the settlements, these artifacts were found together with other figurines, hence the obviousness of their religious role. The findings at the Varna necropolis suggest the same function. All eight en violon figurines, of which seven made of bone (M.1) and one of marble (M.3) were discovered in symbolic tombs. The accompanying artifacts (a vessel, a piercer and a flint knife) that surrounded the figurines suggest that the en violon figurine was played the main part in the ritual. What did this schematized human figurine symbolize: a celestial divinity, with the discoid shape of the head representing the solar disc or a protector spirit, similar to an angel? Can the accompanying artifacts be associated with shamanic practices? Even if, at the present state of the investigations, the answer to these questions is only hypothetical, however, we can state with certainty that the purpose of the figurines overpasses the limit of the fertility rituals. The bone-made en violon figurines constitute a chronological landmark, as the copying of the same shapes and dimensions could have been possible only for a short period of time. The discovery of the figurines in levels that were previously considered successive brings forth the problem of division into periods based only on pottery typology, without clear chronological reference points. In a previous article, we were underlying that the partial contemporaneousness relationship between phases Gumelniţa A2 final – Gumelniţa B1 – Varna III – Cernavodă I shouldn’t be considered impossible, as the accentuation of regional differences is normal in an agitated period with eastern influences http://www.ceeol.com/aspx/issuedetails.aspx?issueid=4ce46fd2-b7ee-4b6f-8a71-b7803e1b8816&articleId=1208320f-66ae-4986-83ef-5ac0e95bc33a

dancing figures

I was reading that Ukrainian dance goes back into prehistory and that dancing figures are seen on pottery and as rock art. However, this article doesn't have any examples of that. Is it true? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.23.105.146 (talk) 08:25, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

There some examples like the one below Frumusica Hora. It is Romanian? Bulgarian? Ukrainian? Or it is only a dance from prehistory? In order to avoid edit wars we have skipped the ethnogenesis part from the article. There are plenty of articles concernig the origins of slavs, romanians, bulgarians, etc... It is a dance or a ritual? I can have an opinion, but generally we have used for the article not our opinions but only accepted academic papers. If someone has acces to academic research regarding the links between the prehistoric dance with the modern one it is welcome to edit the post CristianChirita (talk) 10:18, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Dance?

Ritual?

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