Talk:RMS Caronia (1947)
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This text 'She was nicknamed the "Green Goddess" by the people of Liverpool because her livery resembled that of the local trams, also known as "Green Goddesses".' has been shortened to just the nickname. This is misleading in that at the time the ship was extant this nickname was only ever used by crew members. I know because I served aboard the ship for 3 years. The name was never adopted by Cunard in any way! I feel it's important to replace this removed text and its associated reference. Also, there are other, incorrectly recorded and published, stories of how the ship was nicknamed, so this re-inforces the importance of correctly reporting it here. I don't possess the tech know-how on replacing this text, can someone please step in - thanks Peter_LT —Preceding undated comment added 04:42, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
Moved from Wikipedia:Copyright problems:
- Please could I have a second opinion on RMS Caronia - aleged copyvio text was commented out, then restored to the article as "widely published in the Public Domain". --rbrwr± 15:28, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- On the net, it's only published by [1] (which asserts copyright) and our mirrors. (Though I'm sure you already knew that.) The 1950 brochure mentioned in the article's current version is still under copyright unless it was explicitly released into PD, and in any event, no such brochure is mentioned in the site's bibliography. "RMS Caronia" has enough google hits that if it were public domain, I think it's reasonable to expect at least one other non-WP hit for specific phrases. —Korath (Talk) 16:06, Jan 2, 2005 (UTC)
- There's a reply on my talk page. —Korath (Talk) 08:32, Jan 7, 2005 (UTC)
- On the net, it's only published by [1] (which asserts copyright) and our mirrors. (Though I'm sure you already knew that.) The 1950 brochure mentioned in the article's current version is still under copyright unless it was explicitly released into PD, and in any event, no such brochure is mentioned in the site's bibliography. "RMS Caronia" has enough google hits that if it were public domain, I think it's reasonable to expect at least one other non-WP hit for specific phrases. —Korath (Talk) 16:06, Jan 2, 2005 (UTC)
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I'm not buying the argument that this is public domain. Removed as a copyright violation. -- Cyrius|✎ 03:26, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Cyrius, you could perhaps explain your reasoning - from Peter Stevens - the person who took the trouble to explain his reasoning! Please see (Talk)
- Copyright has been retroactively extended in both scope and duration. Virtually nothing published after January 1, 1923 is in the public domain unless explicitly placed there. -- Cyrius|✎ 06:57, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- ...and Cunard gave up any commercial interest in this material by donating their entire archive to the University of Liverpool - thereby cancelling any claim to Copyright - that action alone places their material into the public domain. (I've checked this with a Senior Librarian at our County Record Office) Peter_LT
- A super-handy place to mention this important tidbit is at our very own Cunard Line, with citation of authority of course, thus forestalling future argument. Stan 23:52, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Apra Harbor wreck site?
[edit]Where in Apra Harbor did it wreck at? There's no placemarker for it. Anybody know the coordinates? Thanks. --Ragemanchoo (talk) 08:16, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
- There's a page about that on the Corps of Engineers site: http://www.usace.army.mil/About/History/HistoricalVignettes/CivilEngineering/093ShipSalvage.aspx. It says that Carnia "partially blocked the entrance to Apra Harbor". That's consistent with the coordinates that the article now has.
- The thing is, though, that after its sinking, Caronia was scrapped. So it doesn't seem appropriate for this article to have any geographical coordinates at all. I think that tag should be removed. Does anybody think otherwise? TypoBoy (talk) 19:28, 23 November 2015 (UTC)