Talk:Pran Nath (musician)
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Comment by Bossk-Office
[edit]I think the page should be Pran Nath (singer), not Pandit Pran Nath (there is another Pran Nath, a scientist, with a stub). No other Indian classical musicians seems to have a honorific in the title itself, and indeed in a neutral context it is best to use such titles sparingly since they are so arbitrary: it is sure to lead to controversy over who is a pandit/ustad and who's not. What can be done?
This is a fair point but the singer seems to be known ONLY with the honorific in the West, as far as I can tell, i.e. his few recordings all bill him thus and reviews and articles in print and on-line use the three-word version. (Correct me if I'm wrong, though!) I myself typed in 'Pandit Pran Nath' just now when looking for this page, but previously searched for just 'Ravi Shankar', 'Ali Akbar Khan', etc., minus their pandits and ustads, so I think that says something about how The Great Man is generally known. Let's remain pleasantly inconsistent on this one, I'd say! Bhasi23 16:34, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
But Wikipedia articles about persons are named according to each person’s name, without honorifics. Of course, it is common to refer to senior Indian classical musicians with ”pandit” and ”ustad”. I agree that with Pran Nath it’s pretty much the norm. But the reason Pran Nath is always talked about that way is that the only people who ever talk about him are: 1. Ardent devotees who greatly idolise him and are not interested in any other Indian classical singers 2. Those who want to sell his recordings etc and naturally wish to stress his mastery (generally the same as the first category) 3. Journalists (this only ever happened once, I think, in The Wire :) who don't know their pandits from their khansahibs but take their cues from categories 1/2 I'm not trying to belittle Pran Nath, by the way, I think he was a fine singer. //Bossk-Office (not logged in)
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Pran Nath was not a dhrupad singer. Comparing him to the Dagar Brothers makes no sense. He sang Khayal in the Kirana style. Not dhrupad. I didn't edit it myself because I wasn't really sure what else to fill in there. Maybe just cut and past the bio from La Monte Young's page. Wikirus (talk) 21:19, 20 May 2008 (UTC) wikirus |
Last edited at 21:19, 20 May 2008 (UTC). Substituted at 03:20, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
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