Talk:1898 Philippine legislative election
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Results
[edit]The info given in the Results section of this article contradicts info given by a verifiable and citeable source: Kalaw, Maximo M. (1927), The development of Philippine politics, Oriental commercial, p. 121, retrieved 2008-03-22.
That source does not give a list of names, but the contradictions I see are:
| Province | This article | Kalaw's book | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Elected | Appointed | Elected | Appointed | |
| Manila | 3 | 1 | 4 | 0 |
| Batangas | 2 | 2 | 4 | 0 |
| Bulacan | 2 | 2 | 4 | 0 |
| Cavite | 3 | 1 | 4 | 0 |
| Ambos Camarines (Kalaw: "Camarines") |
2 | 2 | 4 | 0 |
| Ilocos Sur | 2 | 2 | 3 | 1 |
| Ilocos Norte | 2 | 4 | 6 | 0 |
| Laguna | 2 | 2 | 4 | 0 |
| Pampanga | 2 | 2 | 4 | 0 |
| Pangisinan | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 |
| Iloilo | 0 | 4 | 0 | 4 |
| Cebu | 0 | 4 | 0 | 4 |
| Leyte | 0 | 4 | 0 | 4 |
| Albay | 4 | 1 | ||
| Cagayan | 1 | 2 | ||
| Bataan | 3 | 0 | ||
| Isabela | 2 | 1 | ||
| Union | 1 | 2 | ||
| Nueva Ecija | 3 | 0 | ||
| Tarlac | 3 | 0 | ||
| Zambales | 2 | 1 | ||
| Sorsogon | 0 | 3 | ||
| Negros Occidental | 0 | 3 | ||
| Negros Oriental | 0 | 3 | ||
| Samar | 0 | 3 | ||
| Capiz | 0 | 3 | ||
| Antigua | 0 | 3 | ||
| Bohol | 0 | 3 | ||
| Zamboanga | 0 | 3 | ||
| Mismis | 0 | 3 | ||
| Calamianes | 0 | 3 | ||
| Masbate | 0 | 3 | ||
| Mindoro | 1 | 2 | ||
| Morong | 2 | 0 | ||
| Lepanto | 3 | 0 | ||
| Batanes Islands | 1 | 1 | ||
| Nueva Vicaya | 1 | 1 | ||
| Abra | 1 | 0 | ||
| Padre Burgos (Benguet) | 1 | 2 | ||
| Catanduanes | 0 | 2 | ||
| Paragua | 0 | 2 | ||
| Totals | 22 | 32 | 68 | 68 |
| 54 | 136 | |||
Kalaw cites "Taylor, Volume II, 2 AJ." as his source . I interpret that as an attribution to Volume II, Galley 2 of Major J. R. M. Taylor's translation and compilation of captured insurgent records —*War Department, Bureau of Insular Affairs (1907), "I. Telegraphic Correspondence of Emilio Aguinaldo, July 15, 1898 to February 28, 1899, Annotated" (PDF), in Taylor, John R.M. (ed.), Compilation of Philippine Insurgent Records, Combined Arms Research Library, retrieved 2008-03-10 —.
Kalaw says on page 121 that there were a total of 68 elected and 68 appointed members, vs. the 54 asserted in the infobox.
Hmmm... an alternative verifiable and citeable source —Agoncillo (1970), History of the Filipino People, Malaya Books {{citation}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help); Unknown parameter |firat= ignored (help)— disagrees with both this article and with Kalaw. Agoncillo says on page 205 That because of peace and order conditions in some provinces Aguinaldo appointed 50 delegates to the Congress on September 4 and appointed 10 more on September 10, for a grand total of 60 appointed delegates.
Another alternative verifiable source, this one not citeable because of WP:SELFPUB, —Constantino, Renato (1975), The Philippines: A Past Revisited (Twentieth printing, July, 2005 ed.), Manila, Philippines: self-published, ISBN 971-895-800-2— says on page 216 that that Aguinaldo appointed "more than sixty" delegates. Onp age 217 he says "out of a total of 136 members, only around 50 were present at the inaugural session". -- Boracay Bill (talk) 05:21, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
- I've replaced the unsupported information with the supported information which conflicts with it, citing supporting sources. -- Boracay Bill (talk) 06:10, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Changes to the lead section
[edit]This edit, which expanded the infobox info and modified some of it, popped up on my watchlist. One of the changes was the dates of previous and subsequent elections, the reasoning behind the change apparently being that the infobox is concerned here with congressional elections, not with elections in the Philippines in general. That makes sense.
Added infobox items, however, named Apolinario Mabini as leader1 and other associated info related to Mabini was added to the infobox. In keeping with the changes to the election dates, however, this article is specifically about the Malolos Congress. Pedro Paterno was elected President of the congress, so I've changed the Mabini info to reflect that.
I then noticed a few other problems with the article, and corrected them.
Firstoff, at the time of this election for the Malolos Congress, the Malolos Constitution had not been written. In fact, there was at that time no plan in place to write a constitution. The Malolos Congress elections took place between June 23 and September 10, 1898, and the Malolos Constitution was written by the Congress (over Mabini's opposition) between September 15 and November 13, 1898. So, I removed the phrase, "which stated on the Malolos Constitution", from the Lead. While doing that, I noticed the bolding of "Elections for the Assembly of Representatives" in the lead. I revised that to conform with WP:LEDE#First_sentence and, after looking at [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8] and a few other sources, I changed "Assembly of Representatives" to "Revolutionary Congress".
All of that is quite a bit more extensive that what I originally intended but, as explained above, I think there is good reason behind the changes. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 03:23, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
Missing significant information, like who voted and what was campaigning like
[edit]This article is missing significant information, like the background to the elections, who voted, what was the campaigning like, why so many were appointed, who appointed them, etc. --Bruce Hall (talk) 01:53, 27 December 2011 (UTC)