Talk:Orkla (river)

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Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was moved. --BDD (talk) 18:24, 18 December 2012 (UTC) (non-admin closure)[reply]

Orklaelva → Orkla (river) – Far more common, see for instance the cited source SNL which uses Orkla. Laksefiske Orkla yields 141 000 google results while Laksefiske Orklaelva only yields 25 900 relisting Andrewa (talk) 12:20, 1 December 2012 (UTC) Geschichte (talk) 23:33, 23 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support the river is commonly known as Orkla. Arsenikk ^(talk) 16:34, 24 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Use English. -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 18:47, 24 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. natural disambiguation is preferred to parenthetical; no reader is going to type "Orkla (river)". I would also point out that neither "Laksefiske Orkla" nor "Laksefiske Orklaelva" is going to be at the top of the page in big bold letters, so comparing those two is not very helpful. bobrayner (talk) 09:54, 26 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support for now but relisting... what about Tya (river) and Flisa (river), but Svartelva and Renaelva? Andrewa (talk) 12:20, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- To answer what I think you are asking about: "elva" means "the river" in Norwegian. Some rivers in Norway have "elva" as part of their name, others, such as Orkla, do not. This can among other places be verified here (this is an official map, I'm sorry if you'll have to navigate yourself around). Arsenikk ^(talk) 15:30, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support - as the river is commonly known as Orkla. Mentoz86 (talk) 11:01, 14 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support - as Orkla is more comment, however it also looks like there is a redirect over at Orkla River. I would support either Orkla River or Orkla (river). Tiggerjay (talk) 23:45, 15 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Orkla name

I see the discussions on this has been closed and archived, but as I keep on coming across Orklaelva in Wikipedia articles I just thought I would add my two-pennies worth as someone that was born a stone's throw from the river, and who has lived in Norway for more then 30 years, more than half of which was close to this river.

The official AND common name in Norwegian is Orkla. I've never ever heard anyone either locally or anywhere else in Norway refer to it as Orklaelva. So in my opinion the name Orklaelva is simply wrong. And this is why I will correct any reference to Orklaelva when I come across them.

A bit more for those interested: Unlike some other rivers in Norway that have the ending elva, Orkla hasn't, and never has. In this respect it is similar to Glomma river, the longest river in Norway. Nobody in Norway would call it Glommaelva. There are some Norwegian rivers that are occasionally named both with and without the ending in common language, e.g the river Tana which is also frequently referred to as Tanaelva.

In the local area Orkla is simply referred to as elva, i.e. the river, simply because it is the only major river running through the valley. But they would never call it Orklaelva or even use both words elva Orkla if it is clear from the context that it is the Orkla river that is being referred to.

People in other parts of Norway may occasionally use elva Orkla (but never Orklaelva), however, this would typically only be when it is either assumed that the listener or reader isn't familiar with the river, or when it is necessary to avoid confusion with the Norwegian conglomerate Orkla ASA, which incidentally is named after the river.TheEagleGuy (talk) 19:55, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]