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@Efbrazil See here; it's not clear at all how much this has affected the article, but better safe than sorry while we work that out and go over it. (Notices have been added to FairVote and other related articles.) –Maximum Limelihood Estimator 22:02, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I just didn't see a basis for the issue being posted, that wikilink is what I was looking for. Efbrazil (talk) 15:00, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't agree whatsoever that this article deserves an undisclosed paid tag (see https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Talk:Ranked-choice_voting_in_the_United_States#c-Lcdrovers-20240811044800-Thiesen-20240612184000), and your followup comment (https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard/Archive_207#c-Closed_Limelike_Curves-20240502204500-JPxG-20240502140600) regarding IRV's status among social choice theorists indicates that your application of this tag is politically motivated. Anyone re-adding this template should provide a link to a well-reasoned argument on the talk page for how this edit harms the article, in the specific sections affected, instead of casting doubt upon the entire article without any accountability. Lcdrovers (talk) 04:59, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RCV term in Australia

@David Eppstein when you said this isn't unique to the US, did you mean conflating ranked voting and IRV isn't unique to the US? Or that the term "Ranked-choice voting" in particular is common in Australia? I was under the impression that the term "Ranked-choice voting" for IRV was limited to North America, with Australians making the similar mistake of calling it "preferential voting". Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 01:14, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I meant that using the term "ranked choice voting" (incorrectly) to refer to instant-runoff voting isn't unique to the US. See e.g. this example by an Australian academic researcher. Here's another example in the Sydney Morning Herald and in the Brisbane Times using the term but calling it an Americanism. They do not point out that the correct use of the term means something different, saying only that it is a term used for IRV. I only checked for Australia but I suspect other English-speaking countries would show similar patterns. —David Eppstein (talk) 01:42, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

THis AUstralian never heard of Ranked Choice Voting before reding about it on Wikipedia. HiLo48 (talk) 05:09, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Despite using it? The proper use of the terminology is: ranked choice voting = how you fill in your ballot. IRV = how the winner gets determined from the ballots. The issue we are discussing, though, is that many sources don't make a distinction between those two stages (regardless of what they call them). I think the main term used in Australia is "preferential voting"? But I'm less sure which of those two stages should be the main meaning for that term. —David Eppstein (talk) 06:34, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it's known as preferential voting here. `HiLo48 (talk) 08:38, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Right, so I think "Ranked-choice voting" is mostly limited to North America, albeit not completely exclusive. Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 15:54, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Neither of you have answered whether "preferential voting" means ranked-choice balloting or instant-runoff winner selection. And the geographic distribution of the use of the term "ranked-choice voting" is not particularly relevant to this article except as it concerns the more specific issue of who is likely to confuse RCV and IRV, to which the correct answer is probably "everyone". —David Eppstein (talk) 17:49, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Preferential voting" is in the same boat as RCV of being a popular misnomer. Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 18:23, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a link to an Australian explanation of "preferential voting". HiLo48 (talk) 01:39, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]