Talk:Nolita

As a New Yorker, to say that this a biased article is ridiculous. There is nothing wrong with a neighborhood nickname. Just as Manhattan is a suitable name for the New York County and even the original New York City, a neighborhood can have more than one nickname, and the borders for one nickname can overlap another. As a Wikipedia editor, the biased tab on this article is perplexing and should be removed. I have read the arguments as to why the bias tag was inserted, but I do not agree at all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kops2222 (talk • contribs) 17:05, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the proposal was move Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:57, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

• NoLIta, Manhattan → Nolita

"Nolita" already redirects here; the disambiguator ("Manhattan") not needed. Change case per WP:MOSCAPS: "For proper names and trademarks that are given in mixed or non-capitalization by their owners (such as k.d. lang, adidas and others), follow standard English text formatting and capitalization rules." Press and common usage also follows this format. The target name format matches that of other neighborhoods listed at Template:Manhattan.

Related move requests at Garment District, Manhattan, SoHo, and TriBeCa. — AjaxSmack 23:57, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Survey

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• Support, but how do you feel about TriBeCa and SoHo? Dekimasuよ! 00:28, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
• Probably Oppose as with SoHo and TriBeCa, but perhaps merge with Little Italy, unless sources that this is the predominant name are given. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 05:39, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
• Support per nom. I don't see how anyone can oppose this move, WP:MOSCAPS is pretty clear on the issue. Dan1980 (talk ♦ stalk) 20:24, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
• Weak support. It does appear to be a violation of WP:MOSCAPS, but I'm concerned that recent nominations of SoHo and TriBeCa failed, which appear to me to be similar. Andrewa (talk) 09:12, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
• Comment - I note that the move request at SoHo only had one participant other than the nominator, and TriBeCa seems to have stayed based on "official name" arguments, with very little reference to WP:COMMONNAME. I don't think it's clear that there's a broad consensus for those decisions. It might be worth broadening the scope of the discussion, to determine whether the current form of MOSCL is still backed by consensus. -GTBacchus^(talk) 15:20, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
• Support moving to Nolita, which is the most common spelling nowadays. Bearian (talk) 21:44, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Discussion

Any additional comments:

I don't advocate relying on this but a perusal of the hated Google Hits test results shows a rough ranking of "Nolita," "NoLita," and then "NoLITa." — AjaxSmack 20:40, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

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"NOrthern Little Italy"

An editor added a cite for "Nolita" standing for "Northern Little Italy" rather than "North of Little Italy", but I have moved this information to a footnote. Although the cite is correct, the information comes from the Italian American Museum, whioch has reason to be biased in this matter. Little Italy has been losing ground for years to an ever-expanding Chinatown, and to have a section of the neighborhood hived off into a new mini-neighborhood like Nolita is a blow to the old neighborhoods prestige. This they seem to be trying to reclaim by calling it "Northern Little Italy," when, in fact, the whole reason a new neighborhood was generated was that it had its own, new personality, separate from Little Italy's, hence the geographic name "North of Little Italy". I'll be adding cites to support this shortly, but that is the basic situation. Beyond My Ken (talk) 14:48, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

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