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doubt

why is there the expression "staccato and monotonous", with "staccato" which is an italian word? Is it correct? Mercantedicose (talk) 10:19, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Staccato" is a musical term which is fairly well known in English. AnonMoos (talk) 20:17, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Slang

Rather disingenuously, Orwell does not account for slang, or words arising spontaneously from its speakers and not officially endorsed. Even though words like memory hole are in free use within Minitrue itself, while obviously not authorised as Newspeak words. To say nothing of the repurposing of pre-existing words to yield new meanings. This is an obvious flaw within the scheme of Newspeak as a controlled language. Are there any scholarly explorations of this subject? Nuttyskin (talk) 17:31, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Orwell just says it's a "nickname". In any case, as said in the Appendix: "In the year 1984 there was not as yet anyone who used Newspeak as his sole means of communication, either in speech or writing. The leading articles in The Times were written in it, but this was a tour de force which could only be carried out by a specialist." AnonMoos (talk) 03:06, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nineteen Eighty-Four (1949) problem

Good faith editors continually change "Nineteen Eighty-Four (1949)" to "Nineteen Eighty-Four (1984)". This is a very innocent and understandable error. Is there anything stopping us from rewording:

"In the dystopian novel Nineteen Eighty-Four (1949), by George Orwell, Newspeak is the fictional language of Oceania..." to

"In George Orwell's 1949 dystopian novel Nineteen Eighty-Four, Newspeak is the fictional language of Oceania..."?

It would stop the change being made and, more importantly, stop the good faith editors, who obviously don't understand the formatting, from being bitten. JennyOz (talk) 13:25, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]