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Use of Three-letter acronyms in network diagrams
[edit]I work in IT and have a diploma in network engineering and even I had to think for a second when I saw some of the TLAs on those diagrams. Would it be inappropriate to have some kind of glossary or at least explain the TLA's within the context of the article? Crioca (talk) 00:46, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
- I agree, I have photoshop skills and I am happy to update this if someone can provide guidance as to what the TLAs are. Images that look like they need this edit are:
- https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/National_Broadband_Network#mediaviewer/File:FTTP_network_design_for_the_NBN.svg
- https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9b/National_Broadband_Network.svg/300px-National_Broadband_Network.svg.png
NBN is not an acronym. 1.43.206.160 (talk) 11:49, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
Merging of NBN Co and National Broadband Network
[edit]The sole job of NBN Co is the National Broadband Network, unlike Australia Post, the company is restricted by law to only work on the NBN. To have an article on the company, would mean the duplication of text already in this article, e.g. funding, expected cost, etc, which is waste. I propose the merging of the two articles. —[d'oh] 07:29, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
- against the NBN and NBN Co are two separately identifiable entities,potentially taking different directions in future (in fact, more likely than not), so two entries make sense 192.148.117.107 (talk) 21:11, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
- How can the company NBN Co go in different direction to NBN? In both legislation and agreements, NBN Co and NBN is together. NBN Co's sole job is the NBN, unlike Australia Post it will not do anything else. —[d'oh] 23:24, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
- NBN can exist without NBN CO. And Australia Post is by legislation also "restricted" but over time ended up doing many different things. Politics is unpredicatable. NBN and NBN Co are two different entities/ things, so two entries is ok 58.163.175.172 (talk) 08:46, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
- What if the government stops the NBN and shuts down NBN Co tomorrow? What if the world ends tomorrow? There are hundreds and hundreds of possibility, it is not the job of an encyclopedia to prepare for what might happen in the future. If something happens in the future to warrant a separate article for NBN Co, why can't it be created then? —[d'oh] 09:09, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
- because NBN co exists now 58.163.175.184 (talk) 23:21, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
- What if the government stops the NBN and shuts down NBN Co tomorrow? What if the world ends tomorrow? There are hundreds and hundreds of possibility, it is not the job of an encyclopedia to prepare for what might happen in the future. If something happens in the future to warrant a separate article for NBN Co, why can't it be created then? —[d'oh] 09:09, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
- NBN can exist without NBN CO. And Australia Post is by legislation also "restricted" but over time ended up doing many different things. Politics is unpredicatable. NBN and NBN Co are two different entities/ things, so two entries is ok 58.163.175.172 (talk) 08:46, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
- How can the company NBN Co go in different direction to NBN? In both legislation and agreements, NBN Co and NBN is together. NBN Co's sole job is the NBN, unlike Australia Post it will not do anything else. —[d'oh] 23:24, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
- against the NBN and NBN Co are two separately identifiable entities,potentially taking different directions in future (in fact, more likely than not), so two entries make sense 192.148.117.107 (talk) 21:11, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
Removal of Customer Adoption section
[edit]I just removed the customer adoption section inserted by 101.170.249.198. The section contained weasel words (only, just, far) and was factually incorrect in that it confused premises passed, total active services and fibre services, and the data in question had nothing to do with adoption rates, but rollout rates and policies. The 35,000 connections the NBN plan forecast by June 2011 were all greenfield build-operate-transfer connections (see corp plan pg 15). ie, connections constructed in new estates by private builders, and transferred in the future to NBN Co. The plan changed, and NBN Co didn't contract for any BOT connections, instead appointing their own greenfield builder in May 2011. The NBN Corp plan actually forecasts 0 connections as at June 2011, and 5000 brownfield connections by June 2012. They have 2315 as at January 2012, so it is not true to say they are behind forecast adoption rates. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cruiser-Aust (talk • contribs) 05:35, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
Customer Uptake
[edit]The line "During the development of the NBN, customer uptake is of great interest to all constituents. The table below tracks this information; it includes all manners of delivery by the NBN, incl. fibre, satellite and wireless." Is it? during the rollout people's premises are being connected but ISPs are not necessarily offering services to the premise and people are locked into contracts with their existing ISP etc. I think that the number of premises connected should remain, but the obviously biased uptake numbers/percentages should be removed Smalltime0 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:33, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
Total number of active NBN connections by access technology
[edit]What is the source of data for this excellent chart? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wahroonga Farm (talk • contribs) 21:30, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Wahroonga Farm: Both of the charts are a graphical representation of the tabulated 'Half-yearly data' directly below them. This data in turn is taken from NBN Co.'s half-year/annual reports. Regards, NeoGeneric 💬 00:52, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
questionable quote: "however, Minister for Communications, Stephen Conroy said the EIU were a "right-wing dogma" and would criticise any government investment in infrastructure.[111"
[edit]this quote is not encyclopedic, but instead only repeats the differences between the proposers of the NBN (COnroy) and its critics. this section is about stakeholder responses (good and bad) to conroy's proposal. So adding Conroy's response to one, and only one, of those response is circular, redundant and adds nothing to the article. We know Conroy is in favour of the NBN as he's proposed it (covered extensively in the rest of the article). Rmarsden (talk) 10:45, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
Telstra deal, and Existing Private Networks
[edit]I would like to request a domain expert write about two things not mentioned in the article (that I could find): Firstly, the long term consequences of the lety,;yfng,;klnrfgk,gfbkkm;bfgmk fhnlmkmklghasing deal with Telstra. Once the current deal expires could Telstra extract a monopoly rent from the NBN for the continued use of its ducts and exchanges? Secondly, what will happen to the current infrastructure, constructed by ISPs, such as Internode's microwave towers crossing the countryside linking country towns to metro networks, and the Optus cable networks in some metro areas? Are the owners compensated for decommissioning them, or for losing customers if they have to raise their prices so as not to undercut the NBN? Thanks. Ubuntu2 (talk) 07:52, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
What does FSAM mean?
[edit]Under "Customer uptake" the acronym FSAM is used but there is no previous reference to what this means.Stevephd (talk) 22:47, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Fixed. It means 'Fibre Servicing Area Module' WikiJakko (talk) 05:06, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
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NBN leaks and AFP raids
[edit]There have been several leaks of confidential information about the NBN and the Australian Federal Police have very recently 'raided' Australian Labor Party campaign offices in Melbourne[1] trying to find out who is leaking the information. Is this significant enough to mention here, or should it be mentioned at NBN Co Limited? 220 of Borg 03:24, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
Fixed wireless NTD or ODU?
[edit]I've replaced the image of a prototype NTD (internal unit) titled "Wireless outdoor antenna" with images of production NTD and ODUs (antenna). I've seen the same prototype years ago, but to the best of my knowledge they were never installed. Groogle (talk) 01:55, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
Network Terminating Devices
[edit]The RJ11 or 610 sockets provided in the customer's premises for FTTN or FTTC are NOT UNI-V sockets. Plug an analog phone into one and you'll get no joy whatsoever. I intend to correct this unless anyone has a constructive comment. GusTheTheatreCat (talk) 00:52, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
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