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Semi-protected edit request on 24 March 2024

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edit: I ended up making these changes myself and published this as per below. Please feel free to double-check/proofread and delete this topic.

I think we should change the Tesla Model 3 Performance lap time to the lap performed by L'argus (video) as it is more accurate and from a more reliable source. This would change the lap time from a ~9:00 which is what is currently listed (private driver) to an ~8:12 (L'argus).

For the Tesla Model 3 Performance, the current article lists a 9:00 Bridge-to-Gantry (BTG) time citing a YouTube video under a private driver uploaded by "Jay in Shanghai." L'argus—a French magazine specializing in automobile services and journalism—has an ~8:12 BTG time with a stock vehicle under a YouTube video which is also featured in an article. In the description of the YouTube video they claim the car they're testing is "100% stock."

I would think the L'argus source is not only more reliable considering it was done by media (versus the listed 9:00 private individual/driver time), but may be more indicative of a stock M3P's actual Nürburgring BTG times considering that a modified M3P time under slightly wet conditions is 7:44 in this video by Unplugged Performance (modification details in video description).

That said, I have no idea how the original 9:00 timing written in the Wiki article came about, whether it came from a timing box or was just timed through the video since I didn't see anything about a 9:00 time in the video's description. I suspect the time was from analyzing the video, as the 9:00 time does seem equivalent if timed through the video. If that is the case, then some frame-by-frame times from the L'argus video in total elapsed seconds is

519.76 (Gantry) - 28.04 (Bridge) = 491.72 seconds

491.72 seconds = 8 minutes 11.72 seconds ≈ 8:12

These times were derived by looking at times of the frame within the video, where the frame depicts the white line signifying Bridge/Gantry boundary to be under either the front bumper or front wheels for more conservative timings. Dakilaledesma (talk) 04:13, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NOR. Guy (help! - typo?) 21:49, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop doing this

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A large number of these items are sourced to YouTube (which fails WP:RS) and press releases (which are not independent so also fail RS). Any genuinely significant record can be referenced to at least one reliable independent published source, surely? Guy (help! - typo?) 21:35, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]