Talk:Monckeberg's arteriosclerosis

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This is a decidedly outdated reference to calcium deposition in the periphery beholden to a number of pathologic conditions now more completely understood. I would suggest a start in merging this article with a more recent reference such as Calcium Scoring. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lbeben (talk • contribs) 23:52, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Monckeberg's Sclerosis is a well recognised, if somewhat contentious, pathological condition. I don't think merging with articles related to calcium scoring or calcification would be appropriate. I will try and expand and improve the article. There also seems to be nothing on vascular calcification on Wikipedia in any case. This seems an omission which I'll have a go at rectifying at some point Adh (talk) 14:26, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

I have extensively updated this page. I wonder whether it should be renamed. I would welcome guidance on whether the preferred spelling should be Mönckeberg's, Moenckeberg's or Monckeberg's. I think the use of the term sclerosis (as opposed to arteriosclerosis) should be uncontentious as the former is much more widely used, although the latter is not incorrect and I have preserved it in the text. Adh (talk) 17:31, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks to those who contributed to the discussion on naming below. In view of the consensus I have used Monckeberg's arteriosclerosis throughout for consistency, except for the alternative names in the introductory section. Adh (talk) 21:13, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Requested move

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No consensus to move. Vegaswikian (talk) 21:02, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Monckeberg's arteriosclerosis → Mönckeberg's Sclerosis – This condition is most commonly known as Mönckeberg Sclerosis. The ö is correct but not used invariably and I would like some guidance as to protocol for this. The substitution of sclerosis for arteriosclerosis should be uncontentious as the former is much more widely used in the medical literature, although the latter is not incorrect and I have preserved it in the text. Adh (talk) 17:31, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

• Oppose – no rationale is given for capitalizing Sclerosis, and no good rationale for the umlaut, both of which are contrary to typical English sources. Dicklyon (talk) 06:03, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
• Remove the umlaut since it isn't used always, there's no reason to use it. 70.24.251.71 (talk) 07:57, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

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Wiki Education assignment: Foundations II

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 1 June 2024 and 17 August 2024. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Ach1126, Bgentry12, Hgilleran, Serenahe71888 (article contribs). Peer reviewers: Tlflores, Fengjoa, J-Feria, UCSF Class of 2026, Fenriquez726.

— Assignment last updated by Health Economics and Policy (talk) 19:33, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Plans and Goals of the article:

- enhance description of Monckeberg's arteriosclerosis in the introductory paragraph

- add image of the Monckeberg's arteriosclerosis

- find the review resources of the Monckeberg's arteriosclerosis and add reference

- add to management section of Monckeberg's arteriosclerosis

- add prevention section

- add medication section in management section

- add history section

- add special case section Ach1126 (talk) 22:48, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

- add most current figures

Serenahe71888 (talk) 04:24, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

2024 Foundations 2: Peer Review

Do the group's edits substantially improve the article as described in the Wikipedia peer review "Guiding Framework?"

Yes, the group's edits substantially improve the articles as described in the Wikipedia peer review "Guiding Framework". I believe the addition of a medication, prevention, and special cases section along with updating figures improve the article and will help educate people interested in this topic.

Tlflores (talk) 19:08, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

The group's edits did substantially improve the article by adding in missing information that the article previously didn't have. This included sections on prevention, medication, history, as well as special cases. The structure of the article is well organized and the edits done by this group help maintain this organization. Everything seems to flow weel and explained in a way that is understandable. What I would recommend though is to use more of Wikipedia's WikiLink feature when using medical terms to help navigate lay readers to other articles that can help them understand what those terms are. For example in this section under the "PREVENTION" section: "This can be done by eliminating or controlling risk factors such as smoking or tobacco use, obesity, lack of physical activity, diabetes, hypertension, chronic kidney disease, chronic inflammatory conditions, systemic lupus erythematosus, and hypercholesterolemia." The average individual might not understand what these additional conditions may mean, so I would suggest to either explain them in lay terms (ex. "High Cholesterol" vs. "Hypercholesterolemia" and "High Blood Pressure" vs. "Hypertension") OR you can keep the medical terms but just link a Wiki Article to them using the "LINK" function. But asife from that, everything was explained well and helps improve this article.

J-Feria, UCSF Class of 2026 (talk) 08:13, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

The group's edits improved the article based on the guiding framework. the additional description in the introductory paragraph allows the readers to understand what Monckeberg's arteriosclerosis is. It included major sections such as the difference of Monckerberg's, prevention and unique cases that follows this. The article also includes most current figures to allow readers to visualize. Fengjoa (talk) 22:34, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Yes, the lead section gives a concise and accurate overview of the article. All information provided is neautral and non biased toward a certain view. All information is backed by reputable references. The article overall is well written and easy to follow. Fenriquez726 (talk) 23:29, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Has the group achieved its overall goals for improvement?

Yes, the group achieved its overall goals for improvement, as many sections were added including the medication, prevention, and special cases section. I would say this is a success and is a much better article than before.

Tlflores (talk) 19:08, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

According to the goals set by this group, they wanted to include sections on prevention, medication, history, and special cases. Based on their edits, they did just that and included the listed sections that were missing from this article previously. The only thing that seems to be missing is a specific "history" section that they had mentioned in their goals. The description of this disease has improved as well, which was another one of their achieved goals. Additional images were also a listed goal but that hasn't yet been included, but that can mostly be due to the difficulties of adding images to Wikipedia without any copyright issues. But overall, majority of what was stated in their goals was well achieved.

J-Feria, UCSF Class of 2026 (talk) 08:13, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

The group achieved its overall goals for improvement. They have listed their plan and have executed majority of the vision. There are references that back up their points for prevention, history and unique cases. Fengjoa (talk) 22:36, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

The group has achieved the majority of their overall goals in enhancing the description in the introductory paragraph and adding well-developed management, prevention, and medication sections. History and special case sections have not been added per the editors original goals. These may no longer need specific sections after further review. Fenriquez726 (talk) 19:58, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Does the article meet Wikipedia Guidelines?

Yes, the group has contributed to this article in a positive way and reflects a neutral point of view. The author is not taking any sides or showing any biases, only accurate information is being displayed to enhance this article.

Tlflores (talk) 19:08, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

This article meets Wikipedia's Guidelines as they have a clear structure, provide balanced coverage of this topic, kept information in a neutral standpoint, and provided reliable sources. All claims that they included in their edits were properly cited and used secondary/tertiary sources as required by Wikipedia. Majority of sources used also contained a respective PMID showing that it was freely available throught PubMed. Upon checking some of the sources associated with the introduced claims, it can be verified that what was stated in the article is truthful and backed by evidence though a reliable source.

J-Feria, UCSF Class of 2026 (talk) 08:13, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

The article meet Wiki guidelines. There are resources to back it up and understanding the full idea. They have included a strong understanding of the article. It is typed using their own words with PUBMED as a resource. Fengjoa (talk) 22:37, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

This article meets Wikipedia guidelines in a way that supports diversity, equity, and inclusion by using inclusive language and neatral statements. All edits made in the article do not go against these qualities but there is room for more of this inclusive language to be used. Fenriquez726 (talk) 19:41, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Named for the son, not the father

https://www.whonamedit.com/doctor.cfm/3281.html

Monckeberg arteriosclerosis is possibly named for the son, not the father who shares the same name and who is the one linked in the article currently here: "Mönckeberg's arteriosclerosis is named after Johann Georg Mönckeberg, who first described it in 1903." 129.59.122.76 (talk) 19:24, 18 October 2024 (UTC)