Talk:The Stripped Mixes/GA1
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Reviewer: –– Jezhotwells (talk) 01:35, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
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I shall be reviewing this article against the Good Article criteria, following its nomination for Good Article status.
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[edit]- It is reasonably well written.
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Following a surge in popularity after Jackson's death on June 2009, it was confirmed on July 7, that The Stripped Mixes would be released. A little clumsy here. "on" should be replaced by "in", unless you wish to put the precise date in. "Following a surge in popularity after Jackson's death" would read better as something like "Following a surge in Jackson's popularity after his death ..."The album was made available as a digital download on July 7, 2009, and as a CD on July 28. A remixed song, entitled "I'll Be There (Minus Mix)", was released on iTunes to promote the album. I find this a little confusing. "The album was made available as a digital download on July 7, 2009," and then "A remixed song, entitled "I'll Be There (Minus Mix)", was released on iTunes" If the album was released for download, why did a single track have to be released on iTunes? Or was it free? Needs clarification.Done
The Stripped Mixes is the second Jackson compilation album to be posthumously released, the first being The Collection; which was released over two weeks prior. Keep the tense consistent. "The Stripped Mixes is" would be better "The Stripped Mixes was"The album was a moderate commercial success worldwide and had a better chart performance internationally.Better than what? You need to spell out that the international performance was better than that in the US.Due to the high popularity of a State Farm Insurance commercial featuring an acoustic version of the hit "I'll Be There", Motown released "I'll Be There (Minus Mix)" via iTunes in June, 2009, as a prelude to The Stripped Mixes. OK this explains the release date confusion mentioned above, but you need to tweak the lead to say that the single was released in June.- '
'The Stripped Mixes was made available as a digital download on July 8, and as a compact disc on July 28, 2009. But the lead says July 7? The Stripped Mixes charted at its peak at #95 on the Billboard 200 in its debut week with the sales of less than five thousand units Grammar! Try "The Stripped Mixes charted at a peak position of #95 on the Billboard 200 in its debut week with sales of less than five thousand units."Internationally, The Stripped Mixes was more commercially successful. "was more successful commercially"- OK, I must point out that I had to make several copy-edits to the new material form the additional sources that i found. Please be careful and review your writing, you are writing interesting artciles, but carelessness with spelling and grammar just frustrate progress.
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- All references appear to be WP:RS. All support the statements, the article is adequately referenced.
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- It is broad in its coverage.
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Concept: We need some detail about how the songs are "stripped" versions. How do they differ from the original versions. Currently the concept section is mostly release details, not a description of what the "concept" is.- Charts: Did the album only chart in Belgium, Mexico and the US? I am not suggesting that we list every market, but I am surprised that there is no data from UK, France, Japan, etc. Belgium and Mexico hardly substantiate the phrase Internationally, The Stripped Mixes was more commercially successful., as they are relatively small markets.
- I checked the France and UK charts and the album did not chart there, I do not know how to locate the Japanese charts, I tried Oricon.com but I could not find a way to locate the country's album chart history. Regarding what you said about the phrasing of the sentence saying that the album was more successful internationally, I think it should stay because technically it was... Crystal Clear x3 [talk] 15:33, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
- Still confusing - how do sightly higher placings in two small markets make the album more successful than in the US. 95 on the Billboard chart has to represent more sales than the mid forties in Belgium and 75 in Mexico. The MJ discography page has the US position as 57 and UK as 76 [1] Unfortunately, that is not sourced but surely there must be some data out there for charts less than a year old?
- The MJ discography is completely incorrect. Reliable sources such as LesCharts.com, among other websites published by Hung Medien, list the charting positions in territories from countries like Italy, Switzerland, Denmark, Norwegian and New Zealand, among others, and the site does not show any record of the album ever charting in any of those territories. Crystal Clear x3 [talk] 21:04, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
- OK, fair enough. I think that the release of a lot of material after his death meant that some albums didn't do very well.
- The MJ discography is completely incorrect. Reliable sources such as LesCharts.com, among other websites published by Hung Medien, list the charting positions in territories from countries like Italy, Switzerland, Denmark, Norwegian and New Zealand, among others, and the site does not show any record of the album ever charting in any of those territories. Crystal Clear x3 [talk] 21:04, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
- Still confusing - how do sightly higher placings in two small markets make the album more successful than in the US. 95 on the Billboard chart has to represent more sales than the mid forties in Belgium and 75 in Mexico. The MJ discography page has the US position as 57 and UK as 76 [1] Unfortunately, that is not sourced but surely there must be some data out there for charts less than a year old?
- I checked the France and UK charts and the album did not chart there, I do not know how to locate the Japanese charts, I tried Oricon.com but I could not find a way to locate the country's album chart history. Regarding what you said about the phrasing of the sentence saying that the album was more successful internationally, I think it should stay because technically it was... Crystal Clear x3 [talk] 15:33, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
- Critical Analysis. Just two reviews here. Are there no more?
- I have not been able to find anymore reviews. Crystal Clear x3 [talk] 15:33, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
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- No edit wars, etc.:
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- It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
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- The album cover image is correctly tagged and captioned.
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- OK, a few points to address above. On hold for seven days. –– Jezhotwells (talk) 02:23, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
- OK, this is good to go. Listing this article as good. –– Jezhotwells (talk) 17:28, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
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