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The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:46, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mehmet Ebussuud el-İmadi → Ebussuud Efendi – per WP:COMMONNAME

Takabeg (talk) 13:57, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Persecution of Alevi, Bektashi, Qizilbash, Sufi, other non-Sunni muslims and Yazidis

This article creates an imbalanced image of mufti Ebussuud. There is too little in this article about the persecution of Alevi (among whom Pir Sultan Abdal), Bektashi, Qizilbash, Sufi, other non-Sunni Muslims and Yazidis, which mufti Ebussuud instigated. There should be a separate section in which (much more of) this information is given.

It is a well known fact that during the 16th century, Safavid Persia and the Ottoman Empire were bitter enemies and Shia Muslims inside the Ottoman territories were persecuted. Ebussuud tried to eliminate all forms of Islam except for Sunni Islam (and all other religions except for the religions of the book, Islam, Christianity and Judaism). He also forbade individual interpretation of the Koran by Islamic jurists (and of course laymen) and made them subject to Suleiman the Magnificent's Qanun.

So, "he brought local laws into conformity with Islamic law (Sharia)" is quite an euphemism. Ebussuud instigated and justified mass murders, massacres (Fatwa declaring Qizilbash as kafir, "whoever kills a Qizilbash goes to heaven") and inhibiting the freedom of thought during almost all his life. He is comparable to the Grand Inquisitor Tomás de Torquemada of the Spanish Inquisition.

http://books.google.nl/books?id=ntarP5hrza0C&pg=PA212&lpg=PA212&dq=ebussuud+persecution&source=bl&ots=qI1pse9iDX&sig=X0f4x-zmfODy1XSnEY0zeSzitvs&hl=nl&sa=X&ei=aM8QUb2NHe2b1AXXqYHIDg&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=ebussuud%20persecution&f=false

http://books.google.nl/books?id=h7ZRvJscGN8C&pg=PA172&lpg=PA172&dq=ebussuud+persecution&source=bl&ots=8W-L4mH5o3&sig=oqnyLWv3fJLwgEHgpvGYw05_9Vc&hl=nl&sa=X&ei=aM8QUb2NHe2b1AXXqYHIDg&ved=0CD8Q6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=ebussuud%20persecution&f=false — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.96.62.146 (talk) 10:23, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Complete nonsense. The notion that a singular mufti could completely upend centuries of legal doctrine and singlehandedly cause mass murder is absurd. Hallaq, Sayyid and other critical historians make it very clear that the Islamic judiciary wasn’t A) completely hijacked by singular Mufti/Qadi B)completely subsumed by administrative law and/or executive power. 169.148.53.58 (talk) 18:23, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]