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M-60

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Maybe it is just me but where in the Marine Corps is the M-6o still used. I don't want to delete it thinking it may be used by the Recon, SOCOM or boat guys. Anyone?--Looper5920 09:17, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Don't ask me, I was only trying to minimize redirects...
I'd consider going through DefenseLINK and scanning pictures of Marines/Marine operations in the Imagery section... It would be anecdotal, but definitive. http://www.defenselink.mil/multimedia/ Deathbunny 22:42, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I saw a 2003 picture that was supposed to be Marines and Sailors on a harbor security mission with boat-mounted M60's. However, I'm not too sure about that considering I found multiple pictures clearly showing M240's but the text declaring them to be M60's. Unless you could find a dated shot showing a Marine actually carrying/using an M60 (perhaps as part of a joint Navy/Marine security detail)... Deathbunny 22:52, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Off-topic but, can't one of you Marine types use this: http://www.dodmedia.osd.mil/Assets/2004/Marines/DM-SD-04-11645.JPEG Just for fun... Deathbunny 04:00, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Could someone enlighten me as to the use and time frame the following were issued to the USMC:

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  • S&W Model 629
  • Glock 18
  • Desert Eagle

Thank you. Deathbunny 03:33, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually they never entered service with American forces, where did you hear that they did? QZXA2 01:17, 28 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, they've never been found in USMC armories, unless maybe some joker smuggled them in. There were a number of inaccuracies on the list (since when does the USMC use IEDs? And if we did, it wouldn't be Aircraft-mounted...) Bahamut0013 17:40, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Images in the list

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I reverted the edit that removed the images from the list. According to WP:LIST, there is no reason why a list can't have images. I feel that it makes the page more like an article and less like a list, because I intend to find some sources and convert it into a full-fledged article. It may look somewhat choppy now, but once I can mass some credibility beyond my own experience, I will fix that with some more prose. bahamut0013♠♣ 20:19, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Common sense" is much more important than guidelines, I personally think it makes the page look disorderly.
In any case, I removed the first image, on my screen (1024x768) the image is shown below the infobox, and unlike the other images, which are shown at the side of the article and find only mildly disruptive, I find this image severely disruptive. Carpetsmoker 05:48, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Analysis

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I origionally added one out of a desire to turn this list into an article. However, I realize that I don't have any sources other than my own experience, so I've removed it. I'll leave it in here, I just don't have the time to research it.

The US Marine Corps use a variety of weapons. In most cases, a Marine in a combat area is armed with at least some manner of small arms. While there is a set standard of whom should be armed with what, the inventories of individual armories are the biggest factor in what in individual Marine is armed with. The vast majority of combat and non-combat troops will be armed with the M16 family of rifles, and Marines in a leadership role will often also have a pistol.
The structure of a Marine fire team sets the standard of two riflemen (with M16 rifles), an automatic rifleman (with a M249 SAW), and squad leader with a rifle and a grenade launcher (M16 + M203). a Rifle Squad consisting of three fireteams and a squad leader will have significant firepower available. A full platoon will usually have at least one designated marksman, who has a more accurate rifle available to him. An infantry company will usually have a weapons platoon, which wields some machineguns, assualt (anti-armor) weaponry, and mortars. An infantry battalion will have a weapons company, which comprises of a mortar platoon, an assualt platoon, and a heavy machinegun platoon; as well as a sniper platoon from the headquarters company. A battalion will also have a small amount of shotguns available for non-lethal applications as well as breaching locked doors. A Marine Division combines the heavy vehicle assets with the small arms available to the infantry battalion.
Generally, most Marines are issued a blade as well. Marine who do not have a rifle may recieve a KA-BAR instead of a bayonet. Marines will cary grenades as the mission dictates. They may also be issued CS gas, pepper spray, or other weapons as needed.
Navy medical and religious personnel attached to Marine units are usually issued pistols. Chaplains are traditionally unarmed, but a religious program specialist acts as a body guard in combat situations. Corpsmen usually do not carry rifles, but it is not uncommon amongst Force Recon units for them to carry M4s or shotguns to use in defending a wounded Marine.

I hope someone can add some resources into my colloquial knowledge and add it to the article. bahamut0013♠♣ 20:57, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Should we add the FN SCAR?

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If MARSOC uses it, then I think that it should be put on the list.24.15.64.119 (talk) 13:30, 20 February 2008 (UTC)Jake[reply]

Do you have any sources or photos proving MARSOC uses it? I've never heard of it, though I have seen SEALs and Delta using it. bahamut0013♠♣ 12:22, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If SOCOM uses it, MARSOC uses it. MARSOC is now a branch of SOCOM, so they recieve the same weapons.24.15.64.119 (talk) 01:36, 6 March 2008 (UTC)jake[reply]
By that logic, we can assume that they will all wear the same uniforms and speak the same jargon. Again, this goes to verifiability. If you can't prove it, it shouldn't be in Wikipedia. bahamut0013♠♣ 12:29, 6 March 2008
SOCOM spec ops do use the same equipment.24.15.64.119 (talk) 18:12, 7 March 2008 (UTC)jake[reply]
MARSOC trains and equips the various Marine special ops units, not SOCOM. The NAVSOC gives the Navy guys thier gear, the ARSOC gives the Army dudes thiers, and AFSOC gives the Air Force guys thier aircraft. SOCOM maintains administrative command over them, not all-encompassing, meaning, SOCOM doesn't standardize what gear the subordinate units use, and the fact that many of them do have the same gear is coincidence, not policy.
I'm not trying to say that the SCAR isn't used by Marines, or that it shouldn't be in this article, but I am saying that you need more supporting facts than that supposition. SOCOM uses a lot of unique items that aren't in the hands of all of its subordinate factions. If you can find a source document or photo, then I'd be the first one to include it in the list. bahamut0013♠♣ 19:32, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I understand, you have certain levels of professionalism to maintain here, and I respect that. I will try to find the source doc. It might even be on the FN SCAR wiki page. I know that the Marines ordered a SCAR L (mk 16) and a SCAR H (mk 17) for testing. I will try to find a document. But I was told that even though each branch of SOCOM does arm its soldiers or marines uniquely, they are provided the same weapons by SOCOM.24.15.64.119 (talk) 03:54, 8 March 2008 (UTC)jake[reply]
Well, here's the web link to the video that shows operators in Marine camo using the FN SCAR. The video is youtube, not exclusively of the SCAR, but the first segment is a scar section, and clearly shows a marine camo operator.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c661DnIVQAw&NR=1 there it is!24.15.64.119 (talk) 04:17, 8 March 2008 (UTC)jake[reply]

Hm. Kinda dubious, but I suppose it's enough to say that MARSOC is evaluating it. I'll add it. You certainly are a ig fan of the SCAR, eh? bahamut0013♠♣ 15:55, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]


I think its pretty big when SOCOM decides to replace the M4. So I'm more interested than a true "fan" having never fired the weapon. Its true that just because SOCOM adopts it, it doesn't need to be used by MARSOC. Just look at the Mk 23 pistol, MARSOC and other SOCOM operators don't even use it even though it was adopted. Still, there is a very good chance that if SOCOM picks up the SCAR it will be forced along to all the major Spec Ops forces. So I believe it belongs here.24.15.64.119 (talk) 02:32, 9 March 2008 (UTC)jake[reply]

Branch-specific page

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Why is there an article on the specific weapons of the USMC but the other branches only have their mentions on the List of individual weapons of the U.S. Armed Forces? Either each branch (or at least the Army and Navy) should be covered in its own weapon list article or this should be merged into the universal list.206.130.99.180 (talk) 07:58, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

By all means, go ahead and make them, but the argument to merge is faulty (Wikipedia:Other stuff exists). The existance or lack of existance of an article does not merit the removal of another. bahamut0013♠♣ 12:59, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Force Recon sidearm?

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M45A1-CQBP isn't listed. - theWOLFchild 03:25, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Weapon Table

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Should We made Weapon Table for This Page ?.Mr. Samerkov (talk) 06:13, 15 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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