Talk:List of Urdu poets

Urdu text

I would like to suggest that we have the Urdu [and/Farsi] text of poetry alongside the translation. This could be in English script or in Urdu. English might be better. What say?--iFaqeer 03:43, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Thakhallus

I am going to start putting poets' thakhallus in italics (see Bahadur Shah Zafar for example).--iFaqeer 18:50, Sep 10, 2004 (UTC)

I have gone through and tried to make appropriate changes.

I a still researching Ghalib's official name. Mirza Asadullah Beg Khan is a little unwieldy; it is, however, most probably correct; with "Mirza Asadullah Beg" being his given name, and my mother saying that "Khan" was a title given him by the Sarkar of the time--the British.--iFaqeer 18:32, Sep 13, 2004 (UTC)

I've noticed that you've pasted your note on Takhallus on several different pages. How about having it on just one page and then linking it to there on all the other pages, instead of repeating the same text over again. Also, I would think that the term would be transliterated as "takhallus" rather than "thakhallus", since the arabic/urdu letter "ta" is usually transliterated to "t", whereas "th" is reserved for the Arabic "tha". Comments, response? --Katangoori 01:54, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Nice to hear from you. Been seeing wonderful contributions from you.

The problem is that in Urdu, we have a "tay" (a hard "T") as well as a "thay" (the same as in Arabic).

I do mean to collate the entries on Thakhallus. Just haven't gotten round to it.—iFaqeer | Talk to me! 04:23, Oct 12, 2004 (UTC)

Yep, it is a problem to transliterate Urdu because of the hard and soft tay. However I would still argue that it should be "t" and "th" because that is the way it is transliterated be most Urdu scholars around the world. The hard "Tay" is usually transliterated with an underlined "t", or with a dot below it (I don't know what the ASCII combos for those characters are). The soft "tay" is almost always transliterated with a plain "t". Try looking here and let me know if you still disagree. I know it's a small point to argue, but it's important to go along with the already available conventions, unless there is a significant reason to differ. Try googling "takhallus" and then try googling "thakhallus" and have a look at the difference between the results. I hope my point is obvious. Anyways, I'm always open to more debate so let me know. Thanks! --Katangoori 16:13, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I agree that if one spelling is dominant, we should follow it—after all, we don't call the language Urdhoo :D. And the good thing about this medium is that we can redirect one spelling to another. Please make the change if you want.—iFaqeer | Talk to me! 20:22, Oct 12, 2004 (UTC)

hamid khan working in tse —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.165.216.7 (talk) 10:34, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Missing poets

Need people to add major poets who are missing. Zauq comes to mind. Is Faiz Ahmad Faiz on the list?--iFaqeer 18:51, Sep 10, 2004 (UTC)

ashfaq shaheen اشفاق شاہین (talk) 17:16, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

Khawar Rizvi 1st June 1938 to 15 November 1981 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khawar_Rizvi Syed Qasim Hassan (talk) 06:07, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Ihsan Danish

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Ihsan Danish

I have uploaded Ihsan Danish pic from his book "Jahan-e-Danish", if you could use it...

الثاقب (WiseSabre| talk) 19:37, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

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Sarmad Akhtrabadi

Sarmad Akhtrabadi (Ishteyaque Ahmad) is a major Poet of Bihar India.--195.229.127.124 (talk) 01:41, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Well in that case make sure he has an article written about him that meets WP:notable before adding him to this list. As noted below I am gradually removing all redlinks as these indicate that the subject is not written about and thus may not be notable. Gillyweed (talk) 01:46, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

More Missing Poets

How about Jamiluddin Aali and Zehra Nigah? They are certainly major Urdu poets. Among the younger ones, Farhat Abbas Shah, Zeeshan Sahil and Harris Khalique also come to mind... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Samarehind (talk • contribs) 08:43, 30 March 2007 (UTC).

Redlinks and notability

There are too many redlinks on this page. If these poets are notable then they should have full entries in WP. People keep adding new poets as redlinks and this provides no evidence of notability. I will commence deleting redlinked poets in a week or so. This should provide some time for new articles to be created. Gillyweed (talk) 02:30, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Mir Anees and Mirza Dabir's names are not found!!!!!

I noticed that the two great names of Mir Anees and Mirza Dabir are not list which is very strange. Without mentioning their names, the list of great urdu poets would be incomplete. Please do the needful.

Thanks and regards

Mir Yousuf Ali —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.150.106.183 (talk) 10:12, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Meher Baba

Meher Baba was a great man, I agree but was he so great a poet to be included in this list? In the article about him in Wiki, the word 'poet' comes just in two consecutive sentences:

Merwan had an excellent singing voice and was a multi-instrumentalist and poet. Fluent in several languages, he was especially fond of Hafez's Persian poetry, but also of Shakespeare and Shelley.

I don't think a list of Urdu poets that ignores big names like Anees and Aali should have Meher Baba. What do you guys think? —Preceding unsigned comment added by The parttime angel (talk • contribs) 19:05, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

No Nasir Kazmi?

Nasir's name is not in this article! And he's arguably amongst the best three Modern Urdu Poets! Well, that leaves me amazed! Wiki should have an article on him —Preceding unsigned comment added by The parttime angel (talk • contribs) 19:15, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Notability and lists

To all those who wonder why names are not on this list, its because YOU have not written the article on that poet. Once an article is written, with sources, the name can be added. per the standards at other lists of notable people, the names here must already have an article on WP, or have a reasonable certainty of having an article written about them. if you are thinking of adding a name that does not have an article, you MUST provide at least one reliable citation that shows the person is a NOTABLE, URDU, POET. any names without such references, can, and will, be removed. I will not put citation needed tags on them. thats for facts in articles about established subjects. I will, over time, add the following hidden text at the top of each editable section (this hidden text is stripped of its hidden tags and comes from the List of Indian poets, and i of course will change the language to reflect this article instead):

Do NOT add names to this list unless they already have Wikipedia articles, or could reasonably be expected to be the subject of an article or article section. for names without articles, you MUST add a reference from a reliable source indicating the subjects notability as a published Indian poet, or the name WILL be removed. When linking years of birth and/or death, please link to the corresponding "year in poetry" (e.g. 1933 in poetry) article, not the "year" article (e.g. 1933, unless they are extremely notable, such as Rabindranath Tagore. PLEASE DONT ADD "INDIAN POET" AFTER THEIR NAME, unless they have other areas of notability as well. Poet's name as written in their native script may be added only if their poetry is written in that language. Please use the talk page for any questions.

I will also do this for other indian language poet lists, eventually. if anyone wants to assist, that would be great. since i cant read any indian language, i cannot verify if any references provided (whether in english or urdu) are accurate, so i will NOT remove any names with ANY sort of reference, and will leave that to others to review. we dont want this list to become a repository for every poet ever published, as that's not an encyclopedia's mission.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 04:46, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 July 2014

I want to expand the list of poets. I have read about many more contemporary poets, who are serving the urdu language. I am a software engineer by profession and have been engaged in active blogging etc. I frequently contribute to the urdu literature by writing poems and ghazals. I am also into the editorial team of Urduwala.com I need permission to review this page as well. To help others and increase the content by quality and richness. Toughjamy (talk) 16:45, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone will add them for you, or if you have an account, you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself. — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(e • t • c)} 17:44, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 January 2015

The list is not exhaustive. There are lot of Urdu poets left in this list, a number of some very good poets known to me are not present here. Mirtanha (talk) 19:58, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(e • t • c)} 20:14, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Missing Poets????

Wasi Shah? Mir Anees? Habib Jalib? Shaad Mardanvi? Faiz Ahmad Faiz? Saadat Saeed? There are tens of other poets that are missing

Hadi (talk) 07:50, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 December 2015

1. REDIRECT Raza Naqvi Wahi (17 January 1914 - 5 January 2002)

Cool syed (talk) 21:23, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

Not done: This page should not be redirected. /wia🎄/tlk 18:10, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

See following section. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 06:43, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 December 2015

Raza Naqvi Wahi (17 January 1914 - died 5 Died 5 January 2002) Cool syed (talk) 07:23, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

 Added, thanks. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 06:43, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 January 2016

• Wajid Yusufzai (1953–)

Mohammedimtiyazkhan (talk) 02:33, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

 Not done - until Wajid Yusufzai has an article on the English Wikipedia, he does not meet the inclusion criteria - Arjayay (talk) 15:15, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 October 2016

Please add the name of Asad Jafri (1935- ) in the list of Urdu Poets

Samahota (talk) 11:53, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

 Done Thanks for the suggestion - Arjayay (talk) 12:16, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 November 2016

Please add great poet Jaun Elia in this page. I want to pay my RIP for such a great poet. I am attaching his biography link. Please attach his detail also. https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Jon_Elia Thank you Gurubhaisaurabh (talk) 22:23, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

His name is already there. --SMS ^Talk 22:53, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 February 2017

2405:205:2500:5D6C:2905:2FAC:CF40:11EF (talk) 04:10, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Aein meem kausar 1954

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. DRAGON BOOSTER ★ 06:30, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 August 2017

Kunwar Singh bedi 1909-1998 95.187.194.59 (talk) 06:52, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Not done: His name is already in the section, 1900. regards, DRAGON BOOSTER ★ 07:10, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 December 2017adding a name

157.37.230.202 (talk) 17:49, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Sani Moradabadi

• No, because per WP:LISTN, an entry must be of previously established notability; put another way, that means the article must aleady exist on Wikipedia before beng put into a list. Cheers, >SerialNumber54129^{...speculates} 17:53, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Meera Bai preceeds Urdu

Meera Bai is referred to as Urdu poet here. But she preceeds Urdu as a language. Should she be removed from this list? her poetry is mostly in Rajasthani Languages and Braj Bhasha. ChunnuBhai (talk) 11:28, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 September 2021

Rasheed Hasrat (talk) 03:11, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

List of Urdu poets

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — IVORK _Talk 03:22, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 September 2021 (2)

List of Urdu poets

Rasheed Hasrat (talk) 03:14, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — IVORK _Talk 03:28, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Section not required

Why there is separate section "non-Muslim poets", after all they are also poets and must be included with others.--Omer123hussain (talk) 10:04, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 November 2021

- ! Poet !! Image !! Pen Name !! Era !! Work Mousalman (talk) 05:11, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — IVORK _Talk 05:26, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 February 2022

Mirza Jafar Ali Khan Asar Lakhnawi Mukarramnaqvi (talk) 17:55, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

 Not done for now: They must be notable enough for a wikipedia article. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:58, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 September 2022

Kumar praveen tyagi " kabeer" urdu poet Imtiyaz zaheer (talk) 18:26, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

Published aahista kadam rakhna . Imtiyaz zaheer (talk) 18:27, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: They must be notable enough for a Wikipedia article. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:29, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 November 2022

Add the famous Urdu Poets of Odisha Syed Shakeel Desnavi dob 1941 - 2014 reference Rekhta.com his page in the group of 1940s Poets 49.205.242.213 (talk) 19:41, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. His own website doesn't count towards a reliable source. If he really is famous it shouldn't be too hard to find one though (no I'm not going to do it for you). ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 19:48, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 February 2023

asalam o alikum i just want to to add tehzeeb haafi who was in 1988 , but you put only on 70's section please consider it as a request 175.107.212.0 (talk) 02:45, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 02:53, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

Mir bai and kabir das shouldn't be included as urdu poets

Mirabai and Kabir Das did not write in Urdu, but rather in dialects like Braj Bhasha and Awadhi, respectively. These languages predate the emergence of Urdu and are distinct from it. Including them as Urdu poets is inaccurate and can be misleading.

Suggestion:

1. Remove: If their works are not directly in Urdu, they should be removed from the list of Urdu poets altogether.
2. Clarification: If there's a desire to acknowledge their influence on Urdu poetry, a separate category could be created for "Influences on Urdu Poetry" and include them there with a clear explanation.
3. Disambiguation: Alternatively, a footnote or disambiguation text could be added next to their names specifying the actual language they used and clarifying their connection to Urdu poetry.

59.103.139.32 (talk) 11:17, 10 February 2024 (UTC)