Talk:Ketchup chip/GA1

GA Review

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Nominator: Clovermoss (talk · contribs) 01:51, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Rollinginhisgrave (talk · contribs) 11:42, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Going to review this because doing so looks easy! Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 11:42, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Prose and content

You can flesh out the lede to better summarize the contents of the article; a lot of attention is paid in the body to what it tastes like for example but this receives no mention in the lede.
For structure, move some relevant information not included into the body from the lede and summarize it in the lede if it is the most important.
The contested origins should be covered. I can't remember the essay I'm meant to be quoting (source mining? etc) but thebiguglyalien covers my point pretty well in User:Thebiguglyalien/The source, the whole source, and nothing but the source. With an article of this size, broadness unfortunately comes quite close to comprehensive.
the production of → producing
profitable, as other flavours like orange and grape were discontinued either remove the comma to signify "as" referring to time or change to and to expand on the first half of the sentence. The other chips would not have been unprofitable because they were discontinued but the other way around.
You can remove the caption from the first image as it is redundant
Thrillest is spelled "Thrillist", change in the article text and #cite web. If you want to wikilink The Takeout, consider also linking Thrillist.
Rearrange the quotes from Thrillist to clarify that the dusting is the contents of the bottle (and not the glass I suppose)
and therefore limits product innovation this is redundant if the only innovation being referred to is a salt-reduced variety referred to earlier in the sentence.
in comparison to the United States → than varieties in the United States.
where more varieties → where varieties more often
flavour ~~profile~~
but discontinued production in the American market any idea when this was?
it failed to succeed this reads as quite euphemistic, could you clarify as "after low sales" etc?
In 2023, two Americans travelled from Virginia to Niagara Falls, Ontario, in order to purchase forty bags of ketchup chips. A Canadian grocery store then shipped them nine cases of potato chips.[12] They donated some of the chips to local schools. I am going to be a buzzkill and ask you cut this. For it to be included in a high-level overview of the place of ketchup chips in International markets is undue, and for it to take up 1/3 of such coverage is particuarly inappropriate.
Hyphenate limited edition
I would date the claim that they are "sold in almost every Canadian grocery store"; the source does such dating and in twenty years it's not clear it will still be true or updated.

Suggestions

Considering the invention is (typically) credited to Hostess, seems worth mentioning that such chips are now sold under the Lay's brand.
tasting "like a bottle of ketchup my preference with quotes like these are to put "like" on the outside as I think it flows better into the quote.
Canadian identity may be a good link.
I am not American so I imagined Manitoba was a city. Consider glossing it as a province?
differing immigration trends → their respective immigration histories
There is limited production of the variety → Few ketchup chips are produced
Maybe drop in Template:Chips and crisps at the bottom?
In a source list such as what you have for the book, it's preferable to format it by wrapping it with Template:refbegin and Template:refend. You can see this in the important article I wrote for chocolate in savory cooking.
Consider adding alt text to images for accessibility.

Sources

Remove the "html" from the middle of the Thrillist link as it's turning it into a dead link

Spot check

From this version

[2] clock It being described as a "classic" and having "woven itself into our cultural fabric" does not necessarily verify it is popular. The things core to the cultural identity of my country for example are not necessarily actually very popular.
[4] Y
[6] Y AGF
[8] Y
[10] clock Can you quote this for me?
[12] clock Can you quote me Frito Lay does not sell its ketchup chips in the US?
[14] Y
[16] Y

Other

Images Y: very credible authorship claim to first image, second has similarly credible claim. Appropriately tagged. Consider more neutrally captioning second with more valuable information, such as the branding of the chips.
Neutral Y
Broad / summary style N Some concerns, cleared up by removing specified information and more source mining.
No OR/COPYVIO Y 2% earwig
Stable Y

Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 13:00, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ping Rollinginhisgrave The Americans travelling to Canada made national news so I don't think it's inappropriate to mention this. Another reason it's relevant is that it's an example of the limited production in the United States... someone isn't travelling that far if they can buy it easily. I'll take a look at the rest of this later, but that in particular jumped out to me. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 13:57, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe moving the content about the difference in flavour preferences between Canada and the United States to the international markets section would help address your length concerns? I removed a sentence about how they donated some of these chips to schools in the meantime. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 14:28, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll be back home late on Saturday/early Sunday so that's when I'll be able to provide a more detailed response to this review. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 04:00, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]