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Kara Mahmud Pasha's war with Montenegro.

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I think we should add a segment of the article which talks about Kara Mahmud Pasha's war in Montenegro. It had major historical consequences for the history of Albania and Montenegro and in this war he was killed. Petarrc13 (talk) 14:11, 22 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Crnojevic theory

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Kara Mahmud aimed to expand northward into the former territories of Ivan Crnojević from the Middle Ages. To legitimize and bolster his claim, he proposed that he was descended from Skenderbeg Crnojević.

However, this lineage is highly improbable, at least paternally. The Bushati family originated from the Bushati tribe in the Zadrima region, while the Crnojević family came from Zeta.

Genetic evidence further supports this distinction:

- The Bushati family carries the genetic marker E-V13>FT232287 (https://rrenjet.com/prejardhja-gjenetike-e-familjeve-fisnike-dhe-feudale-shqiptare/)

- The Crnojević family carries the genetic marker E-V13>A18844 (https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Arcadia/default.aspx?section=yresults) GermanManFromFrankfurt (talk) 19:14, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]