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Juba City & Juba County

Are Juba city and Juba County two seperate governments, or is Juba City simply an unincorporated settlement (i.e. without an associated local government) within Juba County? Just wondering how administration has been set up in South Sudan. It'd be good to make note if Juba City is independent of its county. --Criticalthinker (talk) 04:51, 11 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In General

The latest reported date for any information in this article seems to be 2014, with most important info (i.e., infrastructure) dated years before (e.g., only three paved roads in capital city as of 2007, &c.) -- does no one know Arabic well enough to transpose what one would assume is more accurate info from that Wiki to the English? It would seem clear that before any more new non-vital info is added, these statistics need to be brought up to date. Thank you.Rtelkin (talk) 12:34, 12 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Juba was established and built by Greeks in 1923

I would like to invite anyone who does not agree on this, as I have faced in the past vandalism. Pls discuss before you alter the facts.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ghines (talk • contribs) 24 April 2006.

All you need to do is cite a reliable source, and all will be fine.--Ezeu 22:25, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am not going to debate a known fact. Read some books my friend and stop violating the site unless you want to suffer the same way.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Ghines (talk • contribs)

Yeah, threatening people who ask you for a citation is a great way to respond. Reverted, and I will continue to revert until you provide one of the supporting books you mention. Just a name of a book. Pretty please. Now I'm going to warn Ghines on his talk page about threatening people. - Banyan Tree 01:09, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ghines is absolutely right that the Greek role in the establishment of Juba (and other East African towns and cities) is often overlooked. I would like to remove the line "Juba itself was established in 1922" and replace it with the text below. The original article fails to mention the Bari people who lived there first, which seems like a major oversight. It also neglects the role of the CMS school there, which was established in 1920-21, that is, before 1922/23. What follows also corrects some of the problems with sources. If there are no strong objections, I will make the edit below. -- Mr leroy playpus (talk) 05:11, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The present city of Juba was established on the site of a small Bari village of 36 families (of the Bekat clan) called Juba,^[1] where the Church Missionary Society (CMS) had established a mission and the Nugent Memorial Intermediate School in 1920-21.^[2]^[3]^[4] In the late 1920s, Anglo-Egyptian officials ordered Bari residents to relocate to make way for a new town, also called "Juba," to serve as the capital of Mongalla Province.^[5] The site was chosen by Anglo-Egyptian officials, in part, because of the presence of the CMS Nugent Memorial Intermediate School there.^[6] Major construction on Juba was underway by 1927.^[7] Traders from Rejaf relocated there in 1929, and the Governor's office of Mongalla moved there in 1930.^[8]

~~Juba itself was established in 1922 as a small town by a number of Greek traders~~ Greek merchants, who were mostly supplying the British Army at the time, played an early and central role in the establishment of Juba in the early 1920s.^[9] Although their number never exceeded 2,000 inhabitants, together with a much larger number of the native Bari tribe with whom they had an excellent relationship, the Greeks contributed in what is today visible structures downtown Juba Market area as well as the Greek Quarters (named by ...

References

^ Richardson, J.N. (1933). "Bari Notes". Sudan Notes & Records. 16 (2): 181–186.
^ Keen, Rosemary (n.d.). "Church Missionary Society Archive, General Introduction and Guide to the Archive". ampltd.co.uk. Adam Matthew Publications, Pelham House. Retrieved December 16, 2016.
^ Nalder, Leonard F. (1936). Equatorial province handbook. Anglo-Egyptian Sudan government memoranda. OCLC 3450641.
^ Werner, Roland; et al. (2000). Day of devastation, day of contentment: the history of the Sudanese church across 2000 years Volume 10 of Faith in Sudan. Paulines Publications Africa. ISBN 9966215298. {{cite book}}: Explicit use of et al. in: |first= (help)
^ Badiey, Naseem (2014). The State of Post-conflict Reconstruction: Land, Urban Development and State Building in Juba, Southern Sudan. Boydell & Brewer Ltd. p. 38.
^ Shuichiro, Nakao (2013). "A History from Below: Malakia in Juba, South Sudan, c. 1927-1954". The Journal of Sophia Asian Studies. 31: 139–160.
^ Badiey, Naseem (2014). The State of Post-conflict Reconstruction: Land, Urban Development and State Building in Juba, Southern Sudan. Boydell & Brewer Ltd. p. 38.
^ Shuichiro, Nakao (2013). "A History from Below: Malakia in Juba, South Sudan, c. 1927-1954". The Journal of Sophia Asian Studies. 31: 139–160.
^ Shuichiro, Nakao (2013). "A History from Below: Malakia in Juba, South Sudan, c. 1927-1954". The Journal of Sophia Asian Studies. 31: 139–160.

Juba or Yuba?

what's correct, actually? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.116.14.199 (talk • contribs)

Juba, in English. Yuba is the German spelling, which appears here simply because there are a lot of mapmakers on German Wikipedia and we steal their maps. - Banyan Tree 19:45, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Capital of Southern Sudan

The article Southern Sudan refers to Juba as its capital city in the second sentence, so why can't we say in this article that Juba is the capital of Southern Sudan? There seems to be a discrepancy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.6.83.60 (talk) 17:49, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Population

The population section of this article is somewhat misleading. The article shows an estimate of 250,000 in 2008, but sources such as the November 2005 draft of USAID's Juba Assesment Town and Planning Administration give estimates of 250,000 as early as 2005 when IDPs were included. The article itself mentions an estimate of 250,000 in 2006. The population certainly grew between 2006 and 2008. Locals in Juba report that the population is over one million. While no accurate figures exist it would be helpful to indicate that the population is significantly higher than 250,000. Haley betrayal (talk) 12:22, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yugoslav connection

Apparently some of the buildings that the government ended up using were originaly built by Yugoslavians. Anyone know the politics?©Geni 03:12, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Apa ni TANAH

Always at heart 41.216.87.40 (talk) 21:12, 19 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Education assignment: POLC 3200 African Politics

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Not updated in 6 years

Population not updated in 6 years... Whats the point having Wikipedia pages if you dont bother to update it? 188.113.95.213 (talk) 09:48, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Adding and changing content on Wikipedia requires the work of what are essentially unpaid volunteers and it's very much in the nature of Wikipedia for certain things to go unupdated for years. DervotNum4 (talk) 17:49, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a link to a official recording of Juba's population: https://worldpopulationreview.com/world-cities/juba-population

And as some of you volunteers dont like it when im updating things, you go ahead. 188.113.95.213 (talk) 20:37, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Richardson, J.N. (1933). "Bari Notes". Sudan Notes & Records. 16 (2): 181–186.

[2] Keen, Rosemary (n.d.). "Church Missionary Society Archive, General Introduction and Guide to the Archive". ampltd.co.uk. Adam Matthew Publications, Pelham House. Retrieved December 16, 2016.

[3] Nalder, Leonard F. (1936). Equatorial province handbook. Anglo-Egyptian Sudan government memoranda. OCLC 3450641.

[4] Werner, Roland; et al. (2000). Day of devastation, day of contentment: the history of the Sudanese church across 2000 years Volume 10 of Faith in Sudan. Paulines Publications Africa. ISBN 9966215298. {{cite book}}: Explicit use of et al. in: |first= (help)

[5] Badiey, Naseem (2014). The State of Post-conflict Reconstruction: Land, Urban Development and State Building in Juba, Southern Sudan. Boydell & Brewer Ltd. p. 38.

[6] Shuichiro, Nakao (2013). "A History from Below: Malakia in Juba, South Sudan, c. 1927-1954". The Journal of Sophia Asian Studies. 31: 139–160.

[7] Badiey, Naseem (2014). The State of Post-conflict Reconstruction: Land, Urban Development and State Building in Juba, Southern Sudan. Boydell & Brewer Ltd. p. 38.

[8] Shuichiro, Nakao (2013). "A History from Below: Malakia in Juba, South Sudan, c. 1927-1954". The Journal of Sophia Asian Studies. 31: 139–160.

[9] Shuichiro, Nakao (2013). "A History from Below: Malakia in Juba, South Sudan, c. 1927-1954". The Journal of Sophia Asian Studies. 31: 139–160.

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