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Can all Gelflings speak in the language of animals?

I STRONGLY disagree with this statement. It was only Kira who demonstrated such powers, which can possibly be attributed to her courageous upbringing during testing times. I suggest this part of the Wiki removed. Immediately. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.148.11.111 (talk) 21:59, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with this. In Legends of the Dark Crystal, it is revealed that the Podlings are the ones who learned how to speak to the animals (and, indeed, not all of them can). This is very likely a skill taught to THEM by Aughra. They, in turn, teach Kyra.

162.204.192.221 (talk) 13:53, 7 November 2013 (UTC) Spencer Hixon[reply]

Ay!

What about the Mystics? I only see Skeksis and UrSkeks here! 85.228.165.63 (talk) 19:05, 17 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And the Podlings!Emmastaffron (talk) 23:38, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Redundant internal links

This article is flooded with internal links that redirect to this same article from within the article, which seems a bit redundant. I'd clean them up myself and remove the links, but I wanted to see what anyone else thought first. It's just irritating to me because I see these links and think to myself, "Oh wow, more in-depth content about whatever subject," but when I click through I'm taken back to what I was already reading in the first place. :( Anyone mind if I go ahead and remove them?

74.185.237.43 (talk) 17:27, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

why I added the source disclaimers

Much of the information found here is extra-contextual info completely unsupported by the film. (The Mystics, for example, don't have names in the film, they're just known as the Mystics.) Yet the only cited reference for this entire article is an unofficial website with a disclaimer about its own accuracy. Minaker (talk) 21:39, 13 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

UrSu the Master

The article here states that UrSu the Master died of old age. This is not the case According to the Dark Crystal website (^[1]) he chose to die because he knew it would throw the Skeksis into chaos (his death would mean the death of SkekSo, the Emperor). By that logic, SkekSo does not die of old age, either, but is essentially killed because UrSu chose his death.

162.204.192.221 (talk) 13:49, 7 November 2013 (UTC) Spencer Hixon[reply]

References

^ http://www.darkcrystal.com/encyclopedia_ursu.php

Missing characters

We need to decide whether or not this is for The Dark Crystal the movie, or The Dark Crystal the universe. Because there are several characters who are missing from the universe.

There are a total of 18 UrSkeks in the canon: ^[1] Likewise, there are 18 UrRu and Skeksis. This article mentions only 12 UrRu and UrSkek, and 15 Skeksis.

Fizzgig is not the name of the specific character, but rather the species: ^[2]

In the Legends of the Dark Crystal, we meet Aughra's son, Raunip: ^[3] Raunip was originally a chunk of rock that fell from the sky from another world. Aughra found it and could feel the life still within. So, before the life died out, she fashioned it with part of Thra and turned it into her very first creation, Raunip. He has one large yellow eye and one small blue one. It is suggested that with his yellow eye he can see "The Truth." He does not trust the UrSkek. He seems to be immortal, as Aughra is, and does not age. He makes friends with Podlings and Gelflings, though he has made himself the enemy of those Gelflings who worship the UrSkek as deities. It is his harsh words that make the injury of SolSil's heart worse, so that the Crystal rejects him when they are trying to go home and turns the UrSkeks into the UrRu and Skeksis.

162.204.192.221 (talk) 14:05, 7 November 2013 (UTC)Spencer Hixon[reply]

References

Seeking clarity for urGoh the Wanderer.

In his description it says he is the counterpart to skekVar the General, then goes on to describe how he wants to merge with skekGra the Heretic back into the urskek GraGoh. Does he have two counterparts or is there an error? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.10.102.203 (talk) 16:30, 31 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

UrSkeks lacking gender?

Where's the source of such a claim? The only thing I can think of is the film novelization, which says that the UrRu had "evolved as a species of neither gender". However, this can mean many different things: that they had no sex, that they had a sex but no concept of gender, that they had lost it over time, etc... And anyway, it speaks only about the UrRu, not the UrSkeks or Skeksis, so the article is jumping to conclusions all too easily. If there's no source for this, it should be removed, specially when official material refer to individual Skeksis as " he", and in one case, as "she"83.39.91.210 (talk) 04:00, 1 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Pictures

I was just geeking out on movies from 1982 since it was the year I turned 20 and today is my daughter's 20th birthday. I commend your attention to detail but think this project is incomplete without pictures from the movie and possibly other sources. Thank you! Izmirlig (talk) 11:46, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttp://www.darkcrystal.com/encyclopedia_ursu.php

[2] ttp://www.darkcrystal.com/encyclopedia_urskeks.php

[3] ttp://www.darkcrystal.com/encyclopedia_creaturesofthra.php

[4] ttp://www.darkcrystal.com/encyclopedia_raunip.php

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